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Star Wars 1982 Rental Copy Preservation (Released) — Page 2

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I would be amazed if any Star Wars VHS was ever released without copy protection.

It has been a long time since I recorded to a DVD recorder my PAL VHS collection but I had to do a Macrovision hack to get them to record.

I am however willing to be proved incorrect..........

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russs15 said:

I would be amazed if any Star Wars VHS was ever released without copy protection.

It has been a long time since I recorded to a DVD recorder my PAL VHS collection but I had to do a Macrovision hack to get them to record.

I am however willing to be proved incorrect..........

The first film released with Macrovision protection was The Cotton Club in 1984. Any SW VHS released prior to 1984 should be free of it!

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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I remember that...and some VCRs connections couldn't even play the tape...forget about copying it.  I of course tried to copy it just to see if I could...lol.  I could not at the time.  I did copy STAR WARS tapes prior to that and had success.

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Well my Dad had a ANH & ESB & ROTJ, copy from rental.
Amazing that ROTJ would be available before 1984 it came
out in 1983 right.
Although ROTJ was missing the ending, it cut off after burning Vader.
Some years after we got a rely copy and I saw Yub Nub.
Than 1997 they cut out the Yub Nub Song! Noooooooooooooooo!

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Not sure why you are looking for tapes without Macrovision.  It is very very easy to copy tapes with it.

My current setup can do it, and I imagine most other people around here could do the same.  Especially if you have a capture card of some type installed on your computer or something like an Canopus ADVC110.  

Macrovision essentially used trickery to make older recorders THINK there was a problem with the signal, thus you would just get a bunch of tearing and chroma goofyness.  Any modern recording method (like the ones I mentioned above) pretty much just ignore the trickery from Macrovision.

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retartedted said:

Not sure why you are looking for tapes without Macrovision.  It is very very easy to copy tapes with it.

My current setup can do it, and I imagine most other people around here could do the same.  Especially if you have a capture card of some type installed on your computer or something like an Canopus ADVC110.  

Macrovision essentially used trickery to make older recorders THINK there was a problem with the signal, thus you would just get a bunch of tearing and chroma goofyness.  Any modern recording method (like the ones I mentioned above) pretty much just ignore the trickery from Macrovision.

 I am trying to get an idea of what I first saw Star Wars on.
I am almost shore it was a copy of a rental. At the time the
only way I would have gotten it was to have a tape without Macrovision.

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retartedted said:

Not sure why you are looking for tapes without Macrovision.  It is very very easy to copy tapes with it.

How ? Sorry for the offtopic, but I have a few Macrovision-protected VHS tapes which I want to digitize for myself, but I always end with an error message saying that Macrovision protected tapes cannot be transferred. I tried it with a standalone Samsung DVD recorder, and with an PC with a capture card

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pittrek said:

How ? Sorry for the offtopic, but I have a few Macrovision-protected VHS tapes which I want to digitize for myself, but I always end with an error message saying that Macrovision protected tapes cannot be transferred. I tried it with a standalone Samsung DVD recorder, and with an PC with a capture card

 

The standalone DVD recorders generally don't ignore the Macrovision signals, unfortunately.  So it will be next to impossible to copy using that method.

Is your deck a VHS/DVD combo deal?  A lot of those have had issues simply playing Macrovision tapes.  I have one that has the hardest time playing Disney tapes.

But if you have a standalone VHS player, plugged into a PC capture card then it shouldn't be an issue.  I personally have a hauppauge internal PCI card and have no issues with Macrovision. 

A lot of people also go the ADVC110 route http://www.grassvalley.com/products/advc110

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Can someone please upload this to alt.bin.starwars?

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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^Yes, retartedted's is on myspleen.

The Starkiller's 1982 rental VHS
might be found on a.b.starwars
along with my IVTC script

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r

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Darth Mallwalker said:


The Starkiller's 1982 rental VHS
might be found on a.b.starwars
along with my IVTC script

Quick question. Does this IVTC script GOUT sync the video as some of your other scripts have done??? Ta.

 

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russs15 said:


Quick question. Does this IVTC script GOUT sync the video as some of your other scripts have done??? Ta.

Yes, they all do. It was a design goal, or something.


We're off-topic but let's face it, AntcuFaalb is destined to capture a rental VHS someday with his fancy new gear ;)
When he does his IVTC, that script can tell him where to look for changes in telecine cadence.


Now I'm curious to see how retartedted has handled the several 1's in the pulldown pattern.
Perhaps I'll head to myspleen . . . then usenet

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r

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Darth Mallwalker said:


Now I'm curious to see how retartedted has handled the several 1's in the pulldown pattern.

 

Nothing special.  Just used a standard IVTC from avisynth. 

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For the record: This VHS preservation has the best colors I've ever seen.

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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I agree - The colours look gorgeous on the Sony BDP-390 & HDTV, Any chance of an DVD-R copy?? :)  
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Woaw! These screenshots i can see on the first page do look amazing!  First time i see this kind of quality on a VHS rip.  This preservation seems to be really interesting.

“English, motherf***er! Do you speak it!?”

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Alright....  hopefully the guy who won this bidding is a member of OT.com and will give us the nicest transfer ever.  It's impressive how a 30 year old VHS can actually look better than some DVDs out there.

“English, motherf***er! Do you speak it!?”

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ilovewaterslides said:

Alright....  hopefully the guy who won this bidding is a member of OT.com and will give us the nicest transfer ever.  It's impressive how a 30 year old VHS can actually look better than some DVDs out there.

I own a copy and plan to do a transfer of it soon with my Panasonic AG-1980.

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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FWIW, these colors are very close to what's on PS78.

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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AntcuFaalb said:

ilovewaterslides said:

Alright....  hopefully the guy who won this bidding is a member of OT.com and will give us the nicest transfer ever.  It's impressive how a 30 year old VHS can actually look better than some DVDs out there.

I own a copy and plan to do a transfer of it soon with my Panasonic AG-1980.

If you really like this transfer, I can recommend the 1985 CAV standard play LD, uses the same transfer.

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

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AntcuFaalb said:

FWIW, these colors are very close to what's on PS78.

I disagree I think PS78 has a greater depth to the colours in it, once you pump them up a bit i see an appreciable difference, like say the rich blue in the paintwork on R2D2 / the reflective quality of the C3POs metal, the official telecines always flatten/simplify the colours by being over bright. (The PS78 is dark, but theres richness in the darkness)

http://i47.tinypic.com/2ykf821.jpg

I demand PS78 be released once more AntcuFaalb !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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msycamore said:

AntcuFaalb said:

ilovewaterslides said:

Alright....  hopefully the guy who won this bidding is a member of OT.com and will give us the nicest transfer ever.  It's impressive how a 30 year old VHS can actually look better than some DVDs out there.

I own a copy and plan to do a transfer of it soon with my Panasonic AG-1980.

If you really like this transfer, I can recommend the 1985 CAV standard play LD, uses the same transfer.

Are the colors the same?

The colors in retardedted's preservation are wonderful.

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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frank678 said:

AntcuFaalb said:

FWIW, these colors are very close to what's on PS78.

I disagree I think PS78 has a greater depth to the colours in it, once you pump them up a bit i see an appreciable difference, like say the rich blue in the paintwork on R2D2 / the reflective quality of the C3POs metal, the official telecines always flatten/simplify the colours by being over bright. (The PS78 is dark, but theres richness in the darkness)

http://i47.tinypic.com/2ykf821.jpg

I demand PS78 be released once more AntcuFaalb !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, I promise that it will get released sometime soon.

However, it won't be as good as it can be, due to the AGC-related problems.

:-(

Anyway, I find that PS78 is a bit too green-tinted for my taste.

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3