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Ah, OK.  I probably caught some snippet regarding Empire or some other film where Technicolor isn't an option, and assumed he was working with other 35mm sources here too.  Good to know.

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CatBus said:

Ah, OK.  I probably caught some snippet regarding Empire or some other film where Technicolor isn't an option, and assumed he was working with other 35mm sources here too.  Good to know.

 Technicolor is indeed not an option for ESB or RoTJ as far as I know. But RoTJ has LPPs. As you'll see a few pages back, ESB is faded but looks to be quite recoverable. So you're right that he's working with other 35mm sources.

Random question, since I don't assume anyone will be coming across this print any time soon, but: How much fading would a 70mm ESB print be expected to have?

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I dunno, but I think poita snagged an 8mm ESB print a while back, which is a reduction of the 70mm IIRC.  No sound, though, IIRC, which is a shame.

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Feallan said:

CatBus said:

poita said:

CatBus said:

poita said:

No real corrections done.

Jesus.

 Well, a 5 second colour balance and a crop and resize.

Okay, cause I'm assuming we're dealing with pink vinegar reels or some such thing, right?  It sounded for a second like you found a source that looked that good out of the (airtight, argon-filled) box.

 Pretty sure poita only deals with Technicolor Star Wars prints, so no color fade.

 Actually, I have scanned so far..

Star Wars: Multiple Technicolor IB prints, Eastman, a smelly VS print, and an incomplete LPP, 16mm on poly and acetate, Super8 on acetate. Another two IB prints awaiting scanning.

Empire: Eastman, Fuji, 16mm on acetate, a faded reel of dailies, Super8 mute print on poly

Jedi: LPP x 2, 16mm on acetate, and I have another two prints waiting in the wings for my financial situation to improve.

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towne32 said:

CatBus said:

Ah, OK.  I probably caught some snippet regarding Empire or some other film where Technicolor isn't an option, and assumed he was working with other 35mm sources here too.  Good to know.

 Technicolor is indeed not an option for ESB or RoTJ as far as I know. But RoTJ has LPPs. As you'll see a few pages back, ESB is faded but looks to be quite recoverable. So you're right that he's working with other 35mm sources.

Random question, since I don't assume anyone will be coming across this print any time soon, but: How much fading would a 70mm ESB print be expected to have?

 I have seen a 70mm ESB and have a few minutes of ESB on 70mm, it is extremely pink.

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poita said:

Empire: Eastman, Fuji, 16mm on acetate, a faded reel of dailies, Super8 mute print on poly

How did this Super8 print turn out? I am excited to see the colors.

 

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Darth Mallwalker said:

yotsuya said:


And I can so understand chasing frames. I have found that the US ANH GOUT dvd is missing at least 3 frames that I have in other versions. One from the UK ANH GOUT and two from an LD preservation I found before the OT came out on DVD.

Please do tell more.
Perhaps it would be appropriate in one of those threads

 The first two are on one of the LD's right at the start of the clip of the falcon in hyperspace. Those frames aren't in the GOUT, EU broadcast, DVD, or BR. the other one is the final frame of when we see the green R2 unit lowered into the X-wing. The man's hands curl. I was thinking it was my rip, but it is not in the VOB file on the DVD. It is in the PAL GOUT, EU Broadcast, DVD, and BR. The uncorrected (but resized) frame:

I like to blame my computer or the software I use for some things like this, but I checked and to the best of my knowledge this from is not on the US DVD.

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poita said:

 Actually, I have scanned so far..

Star Wars: Multiple Technicolor IB prints, Eastman, a smelly VS print, and an incomplete LPP, 16mm on poly and acetate, Super8 on acetate. Another two IB prints awaiting scanning.

Empire: Eastman, Fuji, 16mm on acetate, a faded reel of dailies, Super8 mute print on poly

Jedi: LPP x 2, 16mm on acetate, and I have another two prints waiting in the wings for my financial situation to improve.

 And I would gladly give them all a backup home for you!

-G

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poita said:

Feallan said:

CatBus said:

poita said:

CatBus said:

poita said:

No real corrections done.

Jesus.

 Well, a 5 second colour balance and a crop and resize.

Okay, cause I'm assuming we're dealing with pink vinegar reels or some such thing, right?  It sounded for a second like you found a source that looked that good out of the (airtight, argon-filled) box.

 Pretty sure poita only deals with Technicolor Star Wars prints, so no color fade.

 Actually, I have scanned so far..

Star Wars: Multiple Technicolor IB prints, Eastman, a smelly VS print, and an incomplete LPP, 16mm on poly and acetate, Super8 on acetate. Another two IB prints awaiting scanning.

Empire: Eastman, Fuji, 16mm on acetate, a faded reel of dailies, Super8 mute print on poly

Jedi: LPP x 2, 16mm on acetate, and I have another two prints waiting in the wings for my financial situation to improve.

 Damn, that's an impressive list. I don't even want to know how many terabytes this all weights.

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g-force said:

poita said:

 Actually, I have scanned so far..

Star Wars: Multiple Technicolor IB prints, Eastman, a smelly VS print, and an incomplete LPP, 16mm on poly and acetate, Super8 on acetate. Another two IB prints awaiting scanning.

Empire: Eastman, Fuji, 16mm on acetate, a faded reel of dailies, Super8 mute print on poly

Jedi: LPP x 2, 16mm on acetate, and I have another two prints waiting in the wings for my financial situation to improve.

 And I would gladly give them all a backup home for you!

-G

 Excellent, you will need 380TB of HDDs, approximately.

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Ha! Alright. Any chance we'll see any of these someday in a more space saving format?

-G

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The 8mm print of Empire is based on the 70mm version, right? If so, is it actually missing shots of ships from the very end of the film? I have been very curious about this since I heard about the 70mm version.

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I thought it was only the (cropped) Super 8 digest that was based off the 70mm. How did that turn into his mute Super 8 feature print being derived from 70mm?

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Ah, that may have been my crazy conflation.

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I don't think the Super8 is from the 70mm.

And in other news, I was cleaning out my spam folder, and there was a 'group card' in there. After sandboxing then opening it (I am a cautious and cynical man), I spent the next few minutes quietly reading it, every word.

A heartfelt thanks to everyone, it had me choked up like an Imperial Officer giving Vader bad news.

Seriously, it is very much appreciated.

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Just for fun, here are two images from one of the Tech IB prints.

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yotsuya said:


The first two are on one of the LD's right at the start of the clip of the falcon in hyperspace. Those frames aren't in the GOUT, EU broadcast, DVD, or BR.
Would love to see them

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
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g-force said:

Ha! Alright. Any chance we'll see any of these someday in a more space saving format?

-G

Yes, I think so. ProRes 4444 cuts it down considerably and it's visually lossless if your eyes aren't as good as poita's are!

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Cleaning out my PMs now. New forum software is nice, no need for glasses 😛

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Hey! You deserve it! And thanks for the scans… Amazing how bright and saturated that IB print is.

What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.

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That frame isn’t on the IB print either, it finishes quite a few frames earlier.
That sequence is the very end of Reel5 at the reel change, so it will be longer or shorter depending on the print, especially if the print was plattered at some point.

yotsuya said:

Darth Mallwalker said:

yotsuya said:

And I can so understand chasing frames. I have found that the US ANH GOUT dvd is missing at least 3 frames that I have in other versions. One from the UK ANH GOUT and two from an LD preservation I found before the OT came out on DVD.

Please do tell more.
Perhaps it would be appropriate in one of those threads

The first two are on one of the LD’s right at the start of the clip of the falcon in hyperspace. Those frames aren’t in the GOUT, EU broadcast, DVD, or BR. the other one is the final frame of when we see the green R2 unit lowered into the X-wing. The man’s hands curl. I was thinking it was my rip, but it is not in the VOB file on the DVD. It is in the PAL GOUT, EU Broadcast, DVD, and BR. The uncorrected (but resized) frame:

I like to blame my computer or the software I use for some things like this, but I checked and to the best of my knowledge this from is not on the US DVD.

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The new forum still has a lot of kinks to work out, but MAN do I really like the fact that we can see the full width of all of these beautiful frames without having to open them in a new tab/window.

Wow, I also like how dead simple it is to edit quotes. I don’t have to worry about pressing escape in the wrong place and having the entire thing vanish! >_<

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Oh and for all the rest of the world that is just entering into the day where our collective future suddenly becomes the past, think for a few minutes that for any kid going into a cinema today to watch a special showing of the Back to the Future Trilogy, the world of 1985 is as far in the ancient past as 1955 was when BttF first came out.

Just think, in only a few years’ time, we’ll be laughing about how tiny 5TB drives were.

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