Star Trek TNG on BluRay confirmed ! — Page 7

Why "sigh"? I don't get it?

I just felt like it.

CP3S said:

Warbler said:

I could start and argument about this, but I won't.  Suffice it to say I that disagree with you about homosexuals and Star Trek.   

You seem to be getting a bit upset by this discussion. Why? If you disagree with Bingo's feelings about Star Trek being a bit homophobic for a show that tried to make itself out to be a liberal wet-dream, why not make your case?

for one thing, it would involve having a conversation with bingowings.    For another, it wouldn't change anything.  We'd still disagree about Star Trek. 

tried to make itself out to be a liberal wet-dream

*sigh*

CP3S said:

I find it an interesting discussion. I remember reading somewhere that back when the show was still airing, a gay sci-fi fan club called the gaylaxians were a bit irked with the writers who had made all sorts of promises about having a gay full time cast member and being on the forefront of the gay rights movement as they were on the forefront of the civil rights movement before that, but yet all those promises kind of fell flat before all was said and done.

I never heard of this gay sci-fi fan club, or that writers made promises about having a gay full time cast member.    I guess they do have a right to be upset about promises not being kept.  

I came up with a fan-fictiony get out clause for the show so far.

In the Trek prime universe they have suffered a Eugenics War and have entered into a money free Utopia.

That could mean that the genetic factors that play a role in some people ending up a bit lavender could have been removed from the gene pool around the same time that the third world war reduced that pool dramatically.

One of the happy social consequences of having childless adults with lots of spending money and free time is they can be potent cultural contributors.

More free money to spend on the arts and more free time to enjoy and create works etc.

But with a money-free society that would be nullified as anyone could be an artist with machinery doing all that tedious manufacturing and it costs nothing so there would be no financial factor in which the homosexual humans could add value to.

So maybe on Earth there just isn't that many homosexuals left.

But maybe not everyone was happy with a the single world government and left to form independent human faith based colonies.

The one way to resurrect the genetic tendency for homosexuality would be to repress homosexuals so they are forced to keep up the appearance of being heterosexual and marry.

A faith based colony may also be against genetic screening so using technology would be a no-no.

So you would have a Liberal money-free Utopia with no homosexuals and a stiff repressed cleric lead colony filling up with them.

If the Federation needed to open diplomatic relations with a culture that revered homosexuality and would only talk to gay ambassadors it might make for an interesting scenario where they have to borrow some gay humans from a culture that denies that they actually have them.

It would be a bit like The Voyage Home but with homosexuals instead of whales.

Bingowings said:

It would be a bit like The Voyage Home but with homosexuals instead of whales.

That whole post was pretty hilarious, but this last part cracked me up.

CP3S said:

Bingowings said:

It would be a bit like The Voyage Home but with homosexuals instead of whales.

That whole post was pretty hilarious, but this last part cracked me up.

Cap'n, there be gays here !

SPOCK : They like you very much but they are not the hell “your” gays.

Some lines need not change

MCCOY : Drilling holes in his head isn't the answer.

GILLIAN TAYLOR : He's just gonna hang around the bushes while we eat?

don't forget the classic:  "double dumbass on you!"

MCCOY : You're proposing that we go backwards in time, find some gays then bring them forward in time, drop 'em off and hope to Hell they tell this probe what to do with itself!

Wasn't this thread about TNG ? :-)

doubleofive said:

Back on topic:

Booooooooooooooooo!

Wow, I had almost forgotten how incredibly ridiculous and stupid Encounter at Far Point was.

TV's Frink said:

doubleofive said:

Back on topic:

Booooooooooooooooo!