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Star Trek Deep Space Nine - NTSC DVD Restoration & 1080p HD Enhancement (Emissary Released)

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Hey There Original Trilogy Community!
 

With this post I would like to inform you that after several weeks of trial and error I finally managed to finish my work on restoring and enhancing the pilot episode “Emissary” of the SciFi Series Star Trek Deep Space Nine.

Since I own the original DVDs in both the NTSC and PAL-Versions I tried to work mostly of the NTSC Version and only include the german audio from the PAL.

Now I guess you guys know what a notorious difficult task (or pain) it can be to work on a series that used VFR and composite shots throughout its entire run.
Generally, the DVDs have a lot of grain and compression as well as other artefacts; in addition the lighting is bad in some scenes and the level of detail is quite poor.
But since software solutions now offer AI options and more versatile filters I wondered if something could be done about that terrific series.

Here the link for the original images in SD-Quality (NTSC DVD): https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1XhVUepnMETb6o376btvvh8c8Kxjoi8kT?usp=sharing

And here the link for the enhanced images in 1080pHD-Quality (after my restoration): https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PLH3LfxDw58wwh7bAmcQ5KqCQSBOG8Tg?usp=sharing

Here is what I have actually done to enhance the episode:

    1. Copy the original DVD-Stream (VOB-Files) from the NTSC-DVD (SD-Resolution at 720x480p in 4:3 at VFR between 23,976 and 29,970 FPS)
    1. Recode the episode to conform to a constant Framerate of 23,976 FPS
    1. Deinterlace the episode to go from interlaced to progressive
    1. Crop the picture to remove bars at top/bottom/left/right sides (so your device can decide whether you want to watch it in original 4:3 or stretch it to fill the screen)
    1. Send the episode through an AI Enhancement Software (removing artefacts, noise and upscale to 1080p ;
      please note that the file does not have exactly 1440x1080p, but rather approximate measurements like
      1456x1080p, because I let the software upscale by percentage, not pixels, that avoids distortions)
    1. Apply further filters & enhancements
      • 6.1: Remove MPEG Blocks and artefacts
      • 6.2: Remove Grain (both Luma and Chroma)
      • 6.3: Remove Alialising
      • 6.4: Remove Color Banding
      • 6.5: Improve Sharpness
    1. Adjust german AC3 5.1 audio to synchonize with picutre on 23,976 FPS (which also lowers pitch to “true”
      sound)

ORIGINAL POST UPDATE:

Since a member of this community pointed out the advantages of 4K upscaling to me (a bit more detail preservation) I have decided to do both 4K and 1080p Versions!

Below you will find links to video-files that represent a “preview” (first 90 seconds of the pilot episode).

Here you have the link for the original SD-Videofile-Preview from the NTSC DVD (for the purpose of comparison):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nL19DeM87_kHtksh-XaGyQDPr_nX3F_K/view?usp=sharing

Here you have the link for the upscaled and enhanced 1080p-Videofile-Preview:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C3Y8F5ZuHGiykfhLHWfME2saswJU90Cn/view?usp=sharing

Here you have the link for the upscaled and enhanced 4K-Videofile-Preview:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qQrcY66SVMnGMSrIB52MTuzMfV_-IRHH/view?usp=sharing

Please remember, the upscaled files do not exactly conform to 1080p and 4K Display measurements, since I have kept the original 4:3 Format to avoid black bars left and right. You can decide whether you want to watch with bares on the side or let your device do a little stretching.

The complete Pilot “Emissary” will become available, as soon as I have finished the work. Enjoy !!!
To get the complete episode please pm me, ok?
And please continue to give me pointers on how to further increase quality - as Scotty said “Fresh minds, fresh ideas!”

ORIGINAL POST UPDATE 2 (Workflow & Upscaling/Enhancement Process):

Since a few members have asked how I specifically did the upscaling/enhancement on the episodes, the following text will serve as a sort of “guide” into my workflow. Feel free to copy and/or adapt to achieve your own upscales and let me know if you can give any pointers on improving the process. Now, let’s see what I did/do.

In general: I recommend saving at least 100 GBs of disc space to work safely, especially when doing 4K work, so you don’t have to check everytime if your harddrive is maxxed out. A fast internal ssd-drive is preferrable to an external drive, since that would add time when data is being created/written.
Besides, as a rule, I do every encoding process lossless to minimize deterioration in quality, only on the final run compression comes into play.
Also, for the purpose of Star Trek DS9 you will need mostly the NTSC-DVDs, only if you want to add other language tracks (in this case german) you will need the PAL-DVDs as well.
On a technical note, especially with the AI software, a nvidia graphics card is most useful, since support for other models is still being updated - in my case I’m using a RTX 2060. Also, 32GB RAM are needed, for it speeds up the encoding process and helps the software to run more stable.
And finally, I suggest to prepare your workspace with folders for videofiles and audio tracks so you can access everything more easily and don’t get confused when to feed the different files into the different programs.

Now the workflow itself:

  1. Program: DVD Shrink / Purpose: Extracting VOB-Files from Original NTSC DVDs (& if necessary later audio from PAL-Discs)
    • Open DVD Shrink and set preferences to “DVD-9”, the avoids compression from the beginning (lossless)
      (when working with Star Trek, you can expect a 90-minute episode to produce a 4,2 GB file and 45 minute 2,1 GB file)
    • Go the the tab “Output files” and uncheck the option “Split VOb-Files into 1GB chunks” (that puts out one complete file instead of seperating it every 20 minutes or so)
    • Then “Open the Disc”: Disc will be analized (remember the DVD-Region Code! NTSC = 1 / PAL = 2)
    • Go to “Re-Author”: Add a single title (episode) and adjust the compression settings
      (No compression, keep only 5.1 audio track - of course you can also keep the stereo track and subs, if you like)
    • Now back up the episode to a hard drive folder (specify if you have prepared your workspace) and start ripping

1b) If you want to add more language tracks (like the german one I’m using) you will have to do the same with the PAL-DVDs, otherwise you can skip this point

  1. Program: mkvToolnix / Purpose: extractin audio tracks
    • feed the VOB-Files into mkvToolnix and leave only the audio tracks checked; that will produce mka-files that exactly match the original audio tracks; then safe them in your workspace and name them according to language

2b) Program: meGui / Purpose: adjusting track length and pitch of german audio to match NTSC DVD Videofile
- If you want another language (here: german) you will see it doesn’t match the NTSC video, since the PAL runs at a sped up coding of 25 FPS instead of 23,976 FPS (about 4% faster I think), which also causes higher pitch in voices, music and sound effects
- since you will slow the NTSC videofile later to constant 23,976 fps, this will work (audio will be in sync)
- now feed the german mka-file you produced via mkvToolnix into meGui and adjust the encoder settings
(FFmpeg AC3, scratchpad ; in advanced settings: config to FFAudioSource but keep channels and sample rate, adjust to SlowDown 25 to 23.976 without (!!!) pitch correction, which will lower the pitch to sound correct and adjust to 640 kbps to keep quality high)
- If you only want english audio, you can skip this point

  1. Program: Handbrake / Purpose: Creating a single videofile from the NTSC VOB-files at Constant Framerate 23,976

    • now feed the VOB files from the NTSC DVD into Handbrake and adjust the settings (you can also create a profile for your work, I have one I call “Pre-Upscale CFR”)
    • use the auto crop function to remove the black bars in every corner to get a “clean” file with clear boarders
    • set video encoder settings to h.264/x264 and set to a constant framerate 23,976 FPS
    • quality settings to “0” (lossless), Placebo-Setting, Profile high 4.1
    • with handbrake I leave out audio, subs and chapters for I will add the original audio later again; you can of course adjust to your taste
    • start encoding, which will take some time
  2. Program: StaxRip / Purpose: Repair interlacing and create progressive file

    • This is the first of two times when I use StaxRip
    • no filter-work is done here, it is merely to produce true progressive video, because the AI software later on can’t handle interlaced content and would produce awful combing and motion stutter otherwise, so this step is essential
    • feed StaxRip the videofile created beforehand by handbrake
    • add Framerate Filter to assume 24/0001 FPS (which resembles 23.976 FPS)
    • Deinterlace with QTGMC (setting: Progressive Full Repair)
      (advanced settings by double clicking on the filters: placebo / InputType=3 / SourceMatch=3 / Sharpness=0.2 / tr2=0)
    • add: auto crop
    • general video encoding settings: x264 in Mode=Quality / Preset=Placebo / Tune=None / Profile=High 444 / Level=4.1 / Depth=8bit / Quality=0 (lossless)
    • start encoding; for me a 90 minute file takes about 6 hours with a fast pc
  3. Program: Topaz Video Enhance AI (only paid-for software in the process) / Purpose: Enhancing and Upscaling

    • As said before, you will have to pay 199 Dollars for it, which includes free updates for a year (worth it)
    • only drawbacks: still works with old x263 codec, only outputs mp4 or tng/tiff and can’t handle vfr or interlaced content (which makes StaxRip Deinterlacing from before a must!)
    • feed the StaxRip file into Topaz
    • use upscale & enhance AI Model "Gaia-CG P (CG-HQ)
      (that mode is usually for CGI content only, but it works best for the purpose of DS9 in my opinion, for the other modes retain to much noise/grain for my taste; besides: the space scenes look nicer afterwards)
    • adjust setting to upscale to 4K resolution
      (with the top slider switch to a picture with clear bars so you can preview live how the framing is handled; unfortunately the standard 4K doesn’t relate true to 4:3 formats and would create black bars left and right, so you have to “trick” the software by switching again to “Custom settings” and then click on the blue brackets on the right, that opens the percentage or pixels to upscale, then click again and the bars will disappear; the programm will now upscale about 450% to a resoultion of 29xx bx 21xx pixels, which would compare to 4K in 4:3 format)
    • in the preferences tab you can/should choose your graphics card on the bottom (in most cases the software chooses automatically the best solution, but should CPU be chosen, your graphics card probably can’t handle the workload, but that will slow down the encoding considerably, sometime by a time factor of 3-4)
    • in the preferences tab again, you could choose to push your memory usage to 500%, but you will have to try that out, if it is set to high, you will get an error message or the program will crash, so you can adjust manually; depending on your ram you might only be able to do 100% or even less, but that will again slow down the process
    • start the encoding, which will again take loooonng on 4K
  4. Program: StaxRip (again, 2nd run-through) / Purpose: Doing the filter-work to enhance the video-quality further

    • feed the upscaled & enhanced file from Topaz into StaxRip
    • now add the following filters & settings:
      • Framerate: assume 24/0001 (23.976 FPS)
      • auto crop
      • Restoration: Deblock_QED (advanced: quant1=40 / quant2=26 / uv=3)
        (this will remove MPEG blocks or compression artefacts)
      • Noise, Remove Grain, SMDegrain with Motion Vectors (advanced: remove “Dither Luma Rebuild” option / thSADC=300)
        (this will remove grain on both luma and chroma channels, which is important on DS9)
      • Line, AntiAlialising, MAA2 (advanced: mask=1 / chroma=true / aa=128 / aac=128)
        (removes residual combing; important, since even QTGMC doesn’t always find everything)
      • Restoration, RCR, Color Banding (advanced: GradFun3)
        (avoids/handles color banding, which sometimes increases during upscale, so that will be removed again here)
      • Line, Sharpen, LSFmod (advanced: default=slow / strength=100 / Smode=5 / smethod=3 / kernel=11 / Preblur=Off)
        (this is more of a basic sharpening, to compensate for the many encoding runs before, which sometimes looses a bit of detail)
      • Line, Sharpen, pSharpen (advanced: strength=50 / threshold=100 / ss_x&y=1.5)
        (this is a more aggressive second sharpening, to add more perceived detail; sometimes it’s overdoing the job, especially when some ghosting was already present, but it is a personal preference - an example of “overdoing” is the borg cube in the pilot, when there are more lines on the gridwork of the hull than originally, which can have a funny effect, but it does not happen that often, so I can live with it)
      • general encoding settings: x264 (Mode=Quality / Preset=Placebo / Tune=None / Profile=High 444 / Level=4.1 / Depth=8bit / Quality=20 CFR) - you can of course adjust the quality CFR to your taste, lower numbers mean bigger files with only slight quality improvement (if at all), so you will have to make a choice if you want to sacrifice space for litte more quality)
      • start encoding - due to many filters and huge 4K it can take daaayysss
  5. Program: mkvToolnix / Purpose: Merging enhanced, upscaled & filtered videofile with original audio tracks

    • feed the second StaxRip videofile (after filter-work) into mkvToolnix
    • add the original mka audio from the english NTSC DVD and make it the primary audio track
    • if you want add another language track (here: ac3 file german from meGui) as secondary language
      (side note: you may have to add/subtract a few hundred ms of delay to sync up the audio; the pilot episode needed +200ms for the german audio to sync up and everything was fine)
    • name the files according to season and episode numbering with correct title, start muxing and … done !!!

After this you should have your file. It takes long, is a pain to do but worth it when you watch. Hope this helps.
Have “fun” trying yourself and please let me know, if you can improve the process.

😃

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Your project looks great. I just got through with DS9 in it’s entirety for the first time, never watched it all in order before, without missing any episodes. It was a great watch but a bit of a come down quality wise after watching the remasters of TNG. I’d be interested in seeing more and hearing about your process. I wish I could say you don’t need to bother, but since it looks like there is no priority for a DS9 remaster, you might be the only option for the foreseeable. It’s a shame that blurays of DS9 and Voyager aren’t in the works, the footage in "What You Leave Behind“ looked great.

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I was messing around with upscaling that exact episode to 4K, and produced some really good results. If you PM me I can show what I did and explain how I did it and get you in contact with some other people who are working on the same thing.

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This looks really good. It’s always going to make me sad that the best Star Trek series isn’t going to ever get a HD remaster like TOS and TNG did because all the CGI would need rebuilding. Fan made upscales are about all we can hope for.

I’d be interested to see how your process works on large battle scenes like ‘Sacrifice of Angels’.

Google Drive should be an okay place to host them, it seems to be where a lot of fanedit stuff goes.

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First of, thanks for the replies.

I know what you mean Booshman - when I saw the Doc “What You Leave Behind” I was blown away. Only goes to show what is possible and how many people would love to see it happening. The moment I saw it I thought “I would bet my life on there being enough fans who would be willing to contribute with crowdfunding and so on to make that happen”.
But then again, it is difficult with the rights and all.

When it comes to quality, I also understand why people are so “difficult to impress”. You see I am pretty much a SciFi Nerd/Geek who grew up in the 90s and lived with handrecorded VHS tapes, so I am grateful for every bit of improvement, I certainly do not expect fans to deliver HD Studio Remasters, since you can’t put out more than there is to begin with. But with AI it has actually become affordable and delivers good results (depending on the original material).

When it comes to my encodes, I usually do everything lossless until the final encode, when it is compressed for the purpose of saving space (my private collection has a crf factor of 10, which would produce the pilot at about 10 GB at 1080p, so I am looking into doing the compression more effectively without loosing to much improved/perceived quality, for I think it shouldn’t be in excess of over 5GB for a double 90 minute episode and about 2,5 GB for a standard 45 minute episode).

To RwAoNrDdOsM: I’ve send you a pm / opened a private topic and would be glad to hear from you. Since I haven’t tried 4K yet for I thought that would be “overdoing it”, I’m really curious if you can change my mind on that. I would have to option to do it, although it would probably consume more time.

To Artan42: I can’t wait for that either to be honest. But I wanted to do the episodes in order, for seasons 6 and 7 of DS9 had better source material - I remember reading somewhere that the producers switched to digital video recording with those seasons, which is the reason why seasons 1-3 look sometimes “worse” than 4-5 and finally 6-7.
So I wanted to see how much can be done by beginning with “the bad”, so I can deliver realistic results; otherwise people would have probably been disappointed when I would have posted quality shots of Seasons 6 and 7 (yes, I know the clips that are out there, especially Sacrifice of Angels, and god, they do look amazing!) and then went back to the beginning and people would have been like “what, did you break your disc, that looks crappy” when watching the first episodes.

One final note: I always test my encodes with 4 different viewing options, so I can get realistic feedback.

    1. Watching it on my “old” laptop (Standard Display with 1080p Resolution)
    1. Watching it on my “new” laptop (4K Resolution with HD-Display)
    1. Watching it on my parents TV (1080p capable Plasma-Display)
    1. Watching it on my personal TV (4K Display with Upscale Option on 1080p content)

The final step is watching with my mom (who first made me fall in love with Star Trek and SciFi in general) the old dvd and my improved version to get some feedback on what she thinks.

By the way: I think the rest of my family is about to kill me soon, since they know they will now have to watch Star Trek for at least 7 seasons of DS9 and possibly later on Voyager. So, when you don’t hear anything from me, you know what happened 😉

I also had a crazy thought for the future (yes, I am crazy enough to plan that far ahead): Anyone remember Earth: Final Conflict? It was also a Roddenberry show I loved and I recently bought the NTSC DVDs of those as well - just thinking out loud here …

Last thing: I did consider goole drive, but I have heared it is difficult considering copyright and stuff … so how save would it be? Would mega be an alternative? I have seen some people around here using it.

So, that’s it for now. Sorry for the long post.

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Thanks to some excellent suggestions by member RwAoNrDdOsM I might be able to improve the quality even further a bit.

So over the course of this weekend I will do a workover on the pilot episode and - once finished - will provide anyone who is interested (please PM me) with the episode in 4K or 1080p.
It will probably be available through google drive.

Since I am not exactly sure how long the workover will take, I will keep you guys updated as soon as it is availabe/ready. Check the postings here.

Until then.

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Hello Guys.

No, sorry, I haven’t finished the workover on the episode, but I would like to provide you with another update:

In my original post at the beginning of this topic I put up some images on Imgur to show the differences between the original NTSC DVD Version and my Enhanced Version - unfortunately imgur created some weird artefacts, especially on the HD Images.

Now I have switched to google drive and would like to provide you with the images again, but this time in the proper quality.
Please note that the links below are just for preview purposes, all other links will be provided by pm only!

Here the link for the original images in SD-Quality (NTSC DVD): https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1XhVUepnMETb6o376btvvh8c8Kxjoi8kT?usp=sharing

And here the link for the enhanced images in HD-Quality (after my restoration): https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PLH3LfxDw58wwh7bAmcQ5KqCQSBOG8Tg?usp=sharing

Just so you see there is actual improvement and I’m not just making stuff up.

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I recommend downloading them and watching them side-by-side on your device for a detailed comparison, then the improvements become more clear.

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And there is one more thing I would like to ask of you guys, if I may:

I realize of course that there is demand out there for improved version of both DS9 and Voyager and that some people would do anything to get them.
And since this is purely a fan project I would love for everyone who is interested to get there hands on it, but I would prefer to keep this project as well as all related files within this community or accessible to all those who pm me around here.

Once you have downloaded the files you can use them / watch them for your own personal pleasure and / or share them with others if you like - although it would be nice to know that all of you who download at least own a dvd copy of the series (in this case DS9) so there would be less concern with spreading copies of things you don’t actually own if you all know what I mean.

And finally: Since I trust the members of this community I respectfully ask you to not post / upload files from the project to any public torrent sites or distribution platforms (such as YouTube or Vimeo).
I don’t know if any of you followed the problems fan projects (even those without any financial concerns) faced lately, but I don’t want to get into any sort of trouble since torrenting without VPN can be tricky and since public tracker / sites are sometimes badly moderated but at the same time watched by copyright hunters.
Perhaps the project “Star Trek Axanar” rings some bells around here, it was a damn disgrace what they did to those people who merely wanted to bring a new chapter to Trek.
So, if I should get knowledge about these files popping up on those sites I will abort the project.

It may seem harsh, but I don’t need that kind of trouble. All I want is to make fans happy by sharing this project in a way that is as responsible as it possibly can be. I hope you guys understand.

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Hey guys, small update here: Currently upscaling the pilot episode to 4K resolution, should be done by sunday evening.

Afterwards the filter work will be applied, but it could take a little longer, since I now have two outputs (4K and 1080p from 4K-downscale for file-size purpose). I know, it adds more time, but I think it will be better quality-wise when filters and compression will be apllied to 4K first and then downscaled.

I still hope to be done this weekend, but it could take til monday. I’ll keep you updated.

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Animaxx said:

Perhaps the project “Star Trek Axanar” rings some bells around here, it was a damn disgrace what they did to those people who merely wanted to bring a new chapter to Trek.

Axanar was shut down for using the Star Trek brand to sell extra material, branded items and so on, which they had no right to do. Star Trek Continues was allowed to continue with CBS’ blessing because they never sold an IP they didn’t own.
They also never even had a working script, lied to donators about how much they actually had filmed (the material for the documentary teaser), and funnelled the donated funds into the main guy’s personal studio.

Your concern is valid but Axanar is a terrible example to use as they effectively shut themselves down due to all the fraud.

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@Artan42: True, sorry for the bad example. I just meant I wanted to avoid legal troubles. Depending on the country you’re in it can be tricky. Even if there is no money involved.

But I’m glad you guys understand my concerns. A friend of mine told me that someone he knew had a blog and wrote about restoring old music from LPs - the blog was taken down for “possible copyright violations”, although he never once posted any content … so he got blocked just for talking about it with others.

Sometimes I think if companies all around the world would be less interested in pursuing people/fans who just want to restore old material (music, films etc.) and instead inviting them to co-ventures (perhaps if studios would outsource basic work that could possibly done by fans) the work would not only procede more quickly but perhaps even less expensive, considering deals could be done like “ok, you help us bring the content back to life and as reward you’ll get it for free”.

Just a thought in the dark. I mean the fandom out there is pretty dedicated, I remember watching documentaries about music and films where original producers would almost every time say something like "the fans would be delighted to help, creatively / work-related and/or financially … the possibilities are infinite.

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Great project!
I’ve got some crudely converted Voyager episodes on my PC, which I got from my UK DVDs - I slowed them down to 23.976fps and deinterlaced using Avisynth filters. Seems to play back better than the DVDs did, and corrects the pitch at the same time.

The only question I have is, whether there would be any benefit in looking for alternative sources? I’m not sure if it is now, but I know some UK channels were broadcasting the show in 1080i50. Obviously it’s an upscale, but might be a cleaner image to work from than the DVD… If you’re interested I’ll check to see if there are any broadcasting at the moment.

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Would Laserdiscs be of any benefit here? Although sadly they only got up to the middle of season 3 by the time new releases began to dry up in 1999.

The digital broadcast subchannel Heroes & Icons shows DS9 six nights a week in the U.S, but there’s a pesky bug logo in the corner and commercial breaks where there were none originally.

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Baobab Archiver said:

Great project!
I’ve got some crudely converted Voyager episodes on my PC, which I got from my UK DVDs - I slowed them down to 23.976fps and deinterlaced using Avisynth filters. Seems to play back better than the DVDs did, and corrects the pitch at the same time.

The only question I have is, whether there would be any benefit in looking for alternative sources? I’m not sure if it is now, but I know some UK channels were broadcasting the show in 1080i50. Obviously it’s an upscale, but might be a cleaner image to work from than the DVD… If you’re interested I’ll check to see if there are any broadcasting at the moment.

That’s an interesting idea. If you should happen to have some hd broadcast files I would be happy to have an option to take a look at them.
I guess it all depends on the source they used and how they upscaled.

I came across some HD-upscales of Stargate lately on SyFy; unfortunately they were poorly done: They seemed to have run them through an automated algorithm based on the PAL-Versions they had - so when watching them you could spot interlacing / combing issues and the pitch was wrong, additionally they were over-smoothing the image, probably hoping to reduce noise without paying much attention to the loss of details.

But again, it would be interesting to see if you happen to have the hd broadcasts. The german HD-broadcasts of Voyager I have seen suffer from the same problems I noticed on stargate, at least the ones i know.

And while we’re talking about the matter of DVDs: I have had the same problem with DS9 and Voyager when playing the episodes from the discs - I guess it has to do with the players / TVs (or the way the software on the devices) ability / inability to handle VFR, then again it could also be an issue of the production company adjusting the Framerates to conform the country-standards in the old days (like NTSC mastering to PAL for distribution in Europe). When I started to deinterlace and adjusting to a CFR of 23,976 to more closely conform to live action scenes and later added some filters to smoothen out the cgi, the motion stutter (which was almost always present during DVD playback and very noticeable with space scenes) was at least reduced and more watchable.

I think it is a great example of technology developing in the final consumer segment, so that there is software available to make adjustments by hand / at home. Now if they would only provide us with a software that could do it all at once … how great would that be?

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SilverWook said:

Would Laserdiscs be of any benefit here? Although sadly they only got up to the middle of season 3 by the time new releases began to dry up in 1999.

The digital broadcast subchannel Heroes & Icons shows DS9 six nights a week in the U.S, but there’s a pesky bug logo in the corner and commercial breaks where there were none originally.

I have read about laserdiscs of DS9 but never actually seen an episode via that medium, so I can’t really judge the quality on that. Do you happen to know someone who owns them or could transfer them to files?

Yes, the logo issue is terrible. I have seen programs that remove them, but there is always a little bit of blur left, which I personally find distracting. And the commercial breaks add headaches when trying to sync the audio.

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I’ll certianly have a check for you and report back. I have means of capturing an HD broadcast, but not a direct capture, so it would lose some quality. However for the purpose of getting a basic idea if it’s worth exploring I could get a capture if it’s still being broadcast.
There are most likely other forum members who could do a direct capture of the broadcast stream with the right setup.
I’ll report back once I’ve looked into it tomorrow.

EDIT TO ADD: You will almost definitely have audio sync issues with ad breaks here too. Question is whether the source is superior and if so, sufficiently superior to make the extra effort worthwhile 😃

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And as far as hdtv broadcasts go: I have noticed a disturbing trend towards “chopping episodes”.

In the past, it was mostly related to the opening and/or end credits, which was ok I guess. But in the last years or so when I stumbled across an episode and thought “I could watch that again” … I don’t know what they are thinking!
They are editing out lines of dialogue, sometimes complete scenes where there really is no need (no offensive language, nudity or violence).
A few days ago I found Voyagers “Year of Hell” and it had several minutes missing and it whoever edited it did such a clumsy job, even someone who didn’t knew the episode would have noticed that some sentences certainly didn’t end where they did.
But just an hour later I saw some show that depicted a guy who got shot with blood splattering and some boobage … I guess that’s ok then ???

So I have become a bit distrustful of tv broadcasts …

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Baobab Archiver said:

I’ll certianly have a check for you and report back. I have means of capturing an HD broadcast, but not a direct capture, so it would lose some quality. However for the purpose of getting a basic idea if it’s worth exploring I could get a capture if it’s still being broadcast.
There are most likely other forum members who could do a direct capture of the broadcast stream with the right setup.
I’ll report back once I’ve looked into it tomorrow.

EDIT TO ADD: You will almost definitely have audio sync issues with ad breaks here too. Question is whether the source is superior and if so, sufficiently superior to make the extra effort worthwhile 😃

Well said, if anyone would have a “superior source” (compared to the DVDs) I would be willing to put in the extra work. One of my favorite films was just recently broadcast via cable and a friend captured it for me - there I am even willing to overlook the logo in the upper right corner, for it has never been released other than VHS.
Sometimes it is worth it.

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Animaxx said:

And as far as hdtv broadcasts go: I have noticed a disturbing trend towards “chopping episodes”.

In the past, it was mostly related to the opening and/or end credits, which was ok I guess. But in the last years or so when I stumbled across an episode and thought “I could watch that again” … I don’t know what they are thinking!
They are editing out lines of dialogue, sometimes complete scenes where there really is no need (no offensive language, nudity or violence).
A few days ago I found Voyagers “Year of Hell” and it had several minutes missing and it whoever edited it did such a clumsy job, even someone who didn’t knew the episode would have noticed that some sentences certainly didn’t end where they did.
But just an hour later I saw some show that depicted a guy who got shot with blood splattering and some boobage … I guess that’s ok then ???

So I have become a bit distrustful of tv broadcasts …

I started watching the remastered TNG and Buffy on Sci-Fi when they started re-airing them here in England, however I picked up they basically cut things out at random episode by episode so I gave up and went back to my DVDs.
It’s not even consistent censorship, some episodes you can say ‘bastard’ and in other episodes, in the exact same context, they cut it.

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Artan42 said:

Animaxx said:

And as far as hdtv broadcasts go: I have noticed a disturbing trend towards “chopping episodes”.

In the past, it was mostly related to the opening and/or end credits, which was ok I guess. But in the last years or so when I stumbled across an episode and thought “I could watch that again” … I don’t know what they are thinking!
They are editing out lines of dialogue, sometimes complete scenes where there really is no need (no offensive language, nudity or violence).
A few days ago I found Voyagers “Year of Hell” and it had several minutes missing and it whoever edited it did such a clumsy job, even someone who didn’t knew the episode would have noticed that some sentences certainly didn’t end where they did.
But just an hour later I saw some show that depicted a guy who got shot with blood splattering and some boobage … I guess that’s ok then ???

So I have become a bit distrustful of tv broadcasts …

I started watching the remastered TNG and Buffy on Sci-Fi when they started re-airing them here in England, however I picked up they basically cut things out at random episode by episode so I gave up and went back to my DVDs.
It’s not even consistent censorship, some episodes you can say ‘bastard’ and in other episodes, in the exact same context, they cut it.

That’s exactly what’s bothering me about it - if it would at least follow certain rules that would appear logical (like language, violence, nudity). I mean I would get it if certain things would be consistently edited pre-watershed, but as you have said, it is really random and most of the time it doesn’t make any sense.
Also I don’t get why other content (for example a gay kiss) would be considered offensive (thinking about the kiss between Dax and a female trill in episode “Rejoined” of season 4), I mean seriously, it’s 2020, what the ****?
Same thing happened a lot with Torchwood … as if we have never seen two women or men kissing … it’s so sad.

I even read about a discussion that seems to have taken place within the upper ranks of a broadcasting company that is about to aquire the free-tv-rights for further Trek-Content (namely Discovery) and now poses the question “should we place Discovery into a late evening slot because of the gay stuff?”
And here I always thought SciFi (or in this case Star Trek) was about advancement in all areas (social and racial diversity was a key point with TOS in the 60’s as far as I remember)? Seems like we’ve taken a wrong turn somewhere
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By the way: My computer tells me it will take 6 more hours to finish the 4K AI upscale, then I will be able to do the filter work. Since it might take a bit longer, I will provide you guys with a preview clip in 4K and 1080p (perhaps the first two minutes of the pilot when the battle of wolf 359 is shown) - so you’ll at least know what to expect.

I’ll keep you updated 😃

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There’s an episode of DS9 on the SciFi HD channel here tomorrow, so I’ll record it to my PVR and see what it’s like. First thing I’ll check is channel logos. I’m hoping they’ll be in the vertical black bars…

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Baobab Archiver said:

There’s an episode of DS9 on the SciFi HD channel here tomorrow, so I’ll record it to my PVR and see what it’s like. First thing I’ll check is channel logos. I’m hoping they’ll be in the vertical black bars…

Great. Thank you for your work. Fingers crossed on the logo.

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Hello guys. Great news: I’ve just finished the 4K Preview (first 90 seconds of the pilot) in 4K.
The original post at the beginning has been updated accordingly.

Here the link for the Original SD-File from the NTSC-DVD (67,5 MB) so you can compare:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nL19DeM87_kHtksh-XaGyQDPr_nX3F_K/view?usp=sharing

Here the link for the enhanced and upscaled 4K-File (106 MB):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qQrcY66SVMnGMSrIB52MTuzMfV_-IRHH/view?usp=sharing

The 1080p-Version preview is still in the works but should be finished soon, I will also post it here and at the beginning of the topic.

Afterwards the work on the full episode will procede. For the full episode please pm me around the next two days, ok?