Spence's Obi-Wan Kenobi (V3 Released) — Page 8

The sabers scene is great. Nice work.

I started the Patterson cut, but actually did not love shoving in prequel music everywhere. It just felt off to me. Your edit list sounds great.

Maaaan, V3 will be a perfect fanedit of this show! Cannot wait!

szopman said:

Maaaan, V3 will be a perfect fanedit of this show! Cannot wait!

Not gonna have to wait too long. It’s rendering now, probably have it up tomorrow or Sunday after I do a test watch and upload.

Spence, I couldn’t find in your notes. How are you taking care of the “two kidnappings” issue?

revel911 said:

Spence, I couldn’t find in your notes. How are you taking care of the “two kidnappings” issue?

It’s still there, but the focus of the first kidnapping is now more on it being Kenobi’s call to action. Because less emphasis is placed on the first one, the second one can feel like a bigger moment.

I know a lot of edits are cutting the fortress, but in my opinion that takes away too many important things. The fortress has Reva backstory, some great character moments for Leia and Tala, cool world building, and the pivotal moment where Kenobi reconnects with the Force in full. Plus it creates some logic gaps about the ship being tracked. It all doesn’t quite hold together without it, for me anyway.

Hi Spence, this guy made an alternate Tala scene of her escaping the stormstroopers, if you are interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JA4mLUzhEk&list=LL&index=61

By the way, you still plan to add PixelJoker’s improvements in your edit, when they are ready?

Sirius said:

Hi Spence, this guy made an alternate Tala scene of her escaping the stormstroopers, if you are interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JA4mLUzhEk&list=LL&index=61

By the way, you still plan to add PixelJoker’s improvements in your edit, when they are ready?

Yes, when he finishes his new effects, I’ll release a version that includes then.

SpenceEdit said:

revel911 said:

Spence, I couldn’t find in your notes. How are you taking care of the “two kidnappings” issue?

It’s still there, but the focus of the first kidnapping is now more on it being Kenobi’s call to action. Because less emphasis is placed on the first one, the second one can feel like a bigger moment.

I know a lot of edits are cutting the fortress, but in my opinion that takes away too many important things. The fortress has Reva backstory, some great character moments for Leia and Tala, cool world building, and the pivotal moment where Kenobi reconnects with the Force in full. Plus it creates some logic gaps about the ship being tracked. It all doesn’t quite hold together without it, for me anyway.

The ship Being tracked never bothered me … in a new hope we never see a tracking device being put on.

revel911 said:

SpenceEdit said:

revel911 said:

Spence, I couldn’t find in your notes. How are you taking care of the “two kidnappings” issue?

It’s still there, but the focus of the first kidnapping is now more on it being Kenobi’s call to action. Because less emphasis is placed on the first one, the second one can feel like a bigger moment.

I know a lot of edits are cutting the fortress, but in my opinion that takes away too many important things. The fortress has Reva backstory, some great character moments for Leia and Tala, cool world building, and the pivotal moment where Kenobi reconnects with the Force in full. Plus it creates some logic gaps about the ship being tracked. It all doesn’t quite hold together without it, for me anyway.

The ship Being tracked never bothered me … in a new hope we never see a tracking device being put on.

That is the most minor of my issues with removing the fortress. It’s too damaging to the story and character arcs to lose it. Lots of edits are removing it, I would encourage you to seek those out.

Alright, the time has come to finally put this bad boy to rest. Version 3, my final version, is done.

Here’s a rundown of what to expect:

• I added a fanedit disclaimer at the beginning.
• Reinstated Leia ripping on her cousin.
• The Leia kidnapping now has none of the chase.
• There is now only one scene of Leia aboard the kidnappers ship.
• The digging up the lightsabers scene has been reinstated. I moved the Reva reveal to before it, then rescored the scene to feel like an appropriately big moment. Kenobi leaving on the transport ship has been removed, as the sabers scene now acts has his “answering the call” moment.
• The beggar clone trooper has been reinstated.
• Removed Reva’s line “Who’s in the gutter now?” as the earlier reference to it has been cut.
• Kenobi no longer sets off an explosion in the spice lab, he just slips by everyone.
• Cropped a weirdly framed shot of the inquisitors when they confront Reva about kidnapping Leia.
• Cut second half of Kenobi’s “you remind me of someone”, ending after “She was stubborn too” “I’m not stubborn!”
• When Kenobi, Leia and Tala arrive at the safehouse, it now appears to be dusk, so the passage of time is a little less wonky.
• Removed the imperial march cue when Vader arrives and reinstated the original music. I used it again later, and I didn’t want to overdo it.
• The conversation with Roken is reinstated, but I removed his speech about his wife.
• Cut one of the Reva/Leia scene, and combined two of them into one scene.
• Added The Force theme in the hallway sequence at the fortress, to emphasize that this is the moment Kenobi got his groove back.
• Cut some Inquisitor bickering when Vader force chokes Reva.
• Cleaned up some audio transitions during the Jabim siege.
• Removed a few silly looking shots from the Reva/Vader fight, where possible.
• Completely reworked the pursuit from Jabim scene for better flow.
• Removed Vader saying he was going to face Kenobi alone. He now just heads straight down there in his shuttle.
• Added subtle Battle of the Heroes motif right before the duel begins.
• Reworked some of the duel editing for better flow and more natural movement into the rocky area.
• Added the Imperial March after Kenobi leaves Vader defeated. Transition to Alderaan is now more natural.
• Added a little bit of Kenobi packing up his house.
• Runtime is 2 hours 25 minutes.

This is going to be the final edit of this. However, if there’s some really cool effects shots that are created down the road that I feel would fit in well and improve the experience, I will reissue the edit with those added in.

Thanks to everyone here who checked it out and provided feedback. I think this turned out really great, and this community had a big hand in making it so.

SpenceEdit said:

revel911 said:

SpenceEdit said:

revel911 said:

Spence, I couldn’t find in your notes. How are you taking care of the “two kidnappings” issue?

It’s still there, but the focus of the first kidnapping is now more on it being Kenobi’s call to action. Because less emphasis is placed on the first one, the second one can feel like a bigger moment.

I know a lot of edits are cutting the fortress, but in my opinion that takes away too many important things. The fortress has Reva backstory, some great character moments for Leia and Tala, cool world building, and the pivotal moment where Kenobi reconnects with the Force in full. Plus it creates some logic gaps about the ship being tracked. It all doesn’t quite hold together without it, for me anyway.

The ship Being tracked never bothered me … in a new hope we never see a tracking device being put on.

That is the most minor of my issues with removing the fortress. It’s too damaging to the story and character arcs to lose it. Lots of edits are removing it, I would encourage you to seek those out.

I am def excited and hoping your edit proves me wrong. Episode 4 was just so happy hazard that it was hard to enjoy, but hoping your version cleans that up.

revel911 said:

SpenceEdit said:

revel911 said:

SpenceEdit said:

revel911 said:

Spence, I couldn’t find in your notes. How are you taking care of the “two kidnappings” issue?

It’s still there, but the focus of the first kidnapping is now more on it being Kenobi’s call to action. Because less emphasis is placed on the first one, the second one can feel like a bigger moment.

I know a lot of edits are cutting the fortress, but in my opinion that takes away too many important things. The fortress has Reva backstory, some great character moments for Leia and Tala, cool world building, and the pivotal moment where Kenobi reconnects with the Force in full. Plus it creates some logic gaps about the ship being tracked. It all doesn’t quite hold together without it, for me anyway.

The ship Being tracked never bothered me … in a new hope we never see a tracking device being put on.

That is the most minor of my issues with removing the fortress. It’s too damaging to the story and character arcs to lose it. Lots of edits are removing it, I would encourage you to seek those out.

I am def excited and hoping your edit proves me wrong. Episode 4 was just so happy hazard that it was hard to enjoy, but hoping your version cleans that up.

It’s much more streamlined in this version.

Hi! link for the V3? thanks

Hi, Spence. Could you send me a pm?

Thanks in advanced.

Kincaid said:

Hi, Spence. Could you send me a pm?

Thanks in advanced.

I’m getting a lot of request, so please just start the process and PM me and I’ll respond. Thanks.

EDIT: Well, keeping the scene with the Emperor would be nice but I agree that you gotta cut good stuff to get it down to a manageable time.

No Palpatine! It’s not happening! Never!

JK, but I legitimately have my reasonings for it. I don’t think that scene adds anything narratively. Not just to this film. But where this film sits in the series. I know it’s nice to see Papa Sheev, but I can’t see a legit reason for keeping it.

Thanks for the feedback!

Hal 9000 said:

Eh, it puts a button on Vader being freshly enraged about Obi-Wan to explain why he loses that focus on him.

Also, I could see it functioning in movie economy to let the audience know that Vader didn’t die on that planet after the duel. And it lets us have some symmetry to see his castle once and then see it again.

It’s far from needed, just musing on it at this point.

That’s understandable. I guess I was subscribing to the Jaws theory, which is “the shark is dead, time to wrap it up”. The last scene between Vader and Kenobi is a powerful one, and that last image of Vader, broken and alone, is great. So to me, that wraps up Vader and Kenobi until the next movie. Time to wrap up the loose ends and finish the rest of the story threads.

+1
besides, I think its clear that Vader lost but he’s alive and will return in next movies. Its not like we last See him half-dying and its left as a cliffhanger. Even if the audience didnt know any SW stories that come after this one, there’s still no doubt he s alive and Even more eager to destroy Obi-wan.
And then, if it wouldnt be that obvious to a viewer, his 1st appearance in RO would have a stronger/better effect.

Yeah, actually it totally Looks like another Anthology film 😉 I’m totally gonna include this version in my every year SW movies maraton 😉

szopman said:

Yeah, actually it totally Looks like another Anthology film 😉 I’m totally gonna include this version in my every year SW movies maraton 😉

That was actually kind of part of my goal. If you’re going to do a canon rewatch and don’t want to spend 6 hours on a TV show, this edit replaces it without losing anything major.

If they do another season or more with Reva, I don’t know that the Luke scene would even be necessary in that context. And I could always use it as an opening to the next “film” if that ever happens.

Hal 9000 said:

It’s a cool ‘deleted scene’ now. I admire the crafting to get the whole series into a very believable runtime to the point that it feels like a real movie. Anytime I face cutting down to fit a runtime…

I LOVE cutting to a specific runtime. It makes me get more creative and ruthless. You can always fudge it a bit at the end. I kind of wanted this down to 2:20, which was V1. Then I moved the goalpost to 2:30 because it would be better a little longer.

I always have a runtime goal on anything I work on.