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EyeShotFirst said:

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Maybe there should be dueling edits. This "Revisited" type actually well made edit and a hastily put-together "cash-grab" with bad color tints and farting cgi cutout Rontos (nothing needs to be 3D, really, just look out of place). Or maybe the same person can do both?

I could cut out the ronto from TPM and paste it somewhere in the middle of the desert.

 

I hope you are NOT seriously considering this, I just can't tell any more.

I'm very interested in a revisited style fix for the movie but adding things that parody the star wars special edition [ie: bad colour tints] would be insulting to spaceballs.

it seems petty and childish [to even consider] and affects Mel Brooks work negatively - not George lucas.

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I am doing a Revisited version of the film, clean colour and updated effects.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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It is a OT.Com inside joke LOL. I probably won't start until after the holidays, but I would like people to leave suggestions of what they would like to see.

Right now the film already feels alot like the special edition, in the fact that the transfer was bad (surprisingly salvageable though)

The colours seem to be over-cooked. I really want to make this look the best possible.

 

 

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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Perhaps this could go both ways, a cleaned up Spaceballs with everything left in place but updated and/or improved, and a Spaceballs SE to mock GL and his BS. Being a huge fan of Spaceballs (as you can see from my avatar of 3 years), I'd love to see just a fixed up version come to fruition without the Ronto, but I'd also like to see the Ronto.

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Well, an SE version of the film isn't exactly what I would like to do. This thread can be filled with suggestions to pertain to other peoples edits as well. I really want to keep the film the same, only enhanced. An SE edit would be fun, but it has been stated by Johnny Ringo that this isn't George Lucas's film, it is Mel Brooks.

I have immense respect for Mel Brooks, and I really would like to do this edit as more of a parody of Adywan's edit of Star Wars.

It makes sense in our community, because Spaceballs was a parody of Star Wars, so I want my edit to be a parody of Adywan's edits.

With respect of course.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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I don't think you're doing this as a parody of Ady's work but trying to make it more like Spaceballs: The Adywan-ized Edition - flawless color correction, repaired FX, and so on.

My outlook on life - we’re all on the Hindenburg anyway…no point fighting over the window seat.

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Ziz said:

I don't think you're doing this as a parody of Ady's work but trying to make it more like Spaceballs: The Adywan-ized Edition - flawless color correction, repaired FX, and so on.

Yeah, you said it better. Of course, I don't think I will be as meticulous as Ady. He fixes things I would have never noticed needing fixed.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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EyeShotFirst said:

Ziz said:

I don't think you're doing this as a parody of Ady's work but trying to make it more like Spaceballs: The Adywan-ized Edition - flawless color correction, repaired FX, and so on.

Yeah, you said it better. Of course, I don't think I will be as meticulous as Ady. He fixes things I would have never noticed needing fixed.

Hey, ESF, could you imagine an Adywan Spaceballs?!?!? It's like a dream.

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ferris209 said:

EyeShotFirst said:

Ziz said:

I don't think you're doing this as a parody of Ady's work but trying to make it more like Spaceballs: The Adywan-ized Edition - flawless color correction, repaired FX, and so on.

Yeah, you said it better. Of course, I don't think I will be as meticulous as Ady. He fixes things I would have never noticed needing fixed.

Hey, ESF, could you imagine an Adywan Spaceballs?!?!? It's like a dream.

Well, that is basically what I am going to emulate, except he would do it way better.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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I am going to be gone for the weekend. Feel free to keep posting and deciding what you want to see.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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EyeShotFirst said:

and deciding what you want to see.

I want to see Updates :D

 

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If we're talking REVISITED here and all, is there the possibility of having a more epic finale (among other things)?  Here are some humble suggestions:

(1) IF this is going to be done, I think I like the idea of the Schwartz ring colors being changed to red and blue may as well be done, though Helmet can have the blue and Lonestar the red (maybe he's a democrat?).  Also, while the music is serviceable, play with adding overly dramatic music, whether it's "Duel of the Fates" or not.

(2) make Spaceball 1 even bigger (maybe not replace it, but in scenes like when they tractor beam the princess' space cadillac, her ship is a tiny dot - hell, if there was a way to add a scene where the tractor beam operator is having a hard time locking on because they are so big and she is so small, that could add some laughs)

(3) maybe do a FISTFUL OF YEN and replace the outside shots of Spaceball city with shots of:
- coruscant
- the distance shot of Mos Eisley
- the really bad stock footage shot of Hong Kong as New York from FISTFUL OF YEN
- or take the Death Star from SW, grain it up a lot and add multiple sized versions in said Hong Kong stock footage shot.  That way you'd have your parody shot ... but with balls.

(4) I really liked the Druidia Albert Witlock matte - if anything, add birds in the far distance like everyone else does to make things look massive.  You know, LOTS of birds (with maybe a plane flying through them, catching on fire and starting to crash, which we don't see (the final crash, that is) because the "cut to the next scene" happens)

(5) I can see the space platform being changed, as that one is a little wonky.  Don't know what you could replace it with, but one idea (if someone with the FX know-how helps) is take one of the many platform shots from the SW Prequels, stick a bad matted diner on top of it, add some spaceships from various other films that shouldn't be there and show Eagle 1 flying in (possibly use a clip from somewhere else in SPACEBALLS)

- in fact, if you show the original Enterprise, the real (Space:1999) Eagle 1, etc, would there be a way to rotoscope scenes from STAR TREK TOS, SPACE:1999 and essentially have Commander Koenig and others in the background?  Hell, would it be funny to figure out ways of having scenes from said shows (with the backgrounds replaced with the diner) with dialogue that would fit with "waiting for your meal for a long time" and the like?

(6) Yogurt's planet could use some work.  I like the idea of seeing thousands of Spaceball troopers combing the desert.  I'll have to think about this one..

(7) I could see some altered or added FX with the "they've gone plaid!" scene - such as add some of that video and audio "wormhole effect" to the Spaceball 1 cast when they hit plaid to emphasize their fastness.  Maybe even replace the first inside the cockpit view of Spaceball 1 going overhead with an outside one, so we can see Eagle 1 in the lower center of the screen - this would show the plaid trail as something much bigger and more impressive.  Also, adding sound FX, close-up of speedometer dials going bug-nuts (from THE ROAD WARRIOR), etc. couldn't hurt - maybe even do a quick rif on 2001, where the plaid trail is two planes, with the occasional still shot of grimaces from Helmet and Sanders (before the part where he says "We're moving too fast!  We need to stop!")

- on a side note, all shots inside and outside of spaceship cockpits when going faster than light, don't just show the stars streaking past ala STAR TREK; show them spinning per the original Falcon getaway shot - so from cockpit sideviews, the stars would be streaking and moving backwards, but they would be travelling at a 45% angle upwards or downwards depending on which side of the cockpit we were looking at and the direction (clockwise/ counter-clockwise) of the spin.

- hell, would it be conceivable to make the plaid trail spin too (make the trail more conical as opposed to boxey) or would that be too much ( I would still love to see a mock-up)?  If done, it could start out conical (for the initial blast and the outside shot showing SB1 going overhead Eagle 1), then add in the STARGATE "stars coming from the outer edge" shot, then go to the 2001 altered shot (with the 2 plaid planes on top and bottom) with still shots of Dark Helmet and Col. Sanders grimaces, DH says " stop it!" per the line (with added ST:TMP wormhole streakiness) and the rest follows per the movie, with maybe a slightly sped up DH flying into the bulkhead scene... and smoke coming out of his collar when they pick him up.

(8) have druidia/ naboo/ every fighter from every science fiction fighter combat movie scene go out to meet Spaceball 1, so before/ during/ after it transforms, there is actual explosions, fat fighter pilots having problems and getting blown up, etc. to heighten the tension.

(9) replace the PLANET OF THE APES sequence with an altered one with Charlton Heston instead of the 2 Ape-men on horseback (edit the Mega Maid head overtop the Statue of Liberty head, but have the rest of the shot from the original POTA, with Chuck doing his "YOU MANIACS!  YOU BLEW IT UP!  GODDAMN YOU!  GODDAMN YOU TO HELL!)

- also, I would cut this scene out from where it is and place it after the credits.

(10) maybe work in the "Jews from Space" fighters into the climactic battle against Mega Maid.

(11) when Dark Helmet hits the gaffer, add some quick grotesqueness or make him explode, followed with a comment from Moranis (taken from another movie and audio altered to sound like Helmet) saying something like "Jesus Christ!  .... Please don't sue me!"  It would also help to show what would happen if the Schwartz actually made contact (make it more threatening... you know, other than having the power to crush balls)

(11) I don't know... figure out a way to stick in a Daphne Zuniga nude scene (like when Lonestar looks into the window on the cell, cut to the scene in the FLY 2 where she's having sex with Eric Stolz)?

(12) the mirror under the hoverjeep that Dark Helmet is in?  I would DEFINITELY keep it.. hell, if it can be done, I would figure out a way where the mirror falls down and you see that the jeep is being carried on top of the shoulders of a bunch of spaceball soldiers.  Again, probably impossible to do, but could make for a great gag.

That or add the reflection of the camera crew's feet... remember, this is SPACE BALLS... the more gags the better.

(13) again, don't know how it could be done (other than some good editing and some blending FX), but when Lone Star and Barf arrive on Space Ball City and first go in (also, more beating up sound FX could be used when they get their soldier uniforms), you could add a shot of Lone Star essentially looking down the corridors:

- it starts off with a left-to-right pan of one of the familiar Space Ball corridors, then blends into the left-to-right pan of the Nostromo hallway, then blends into a left-to-right pan of one of the Death Star hallways.. this could go on as long as you wanted.. though keep in mind the FAMILY GUY rule of not to tell a joke: it's all in the timing; make a joke go on TOO long and it becomes annoying (until someone comments on it, then it becomes funny again).

That's all I can think of..  FOR NOW!

         

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On another note, what would you call this?

SPACEBALLS: BALL HARDER
SPACEBALLS: THE WRATH OF KHANTINUITY
SPACEBALLSIER
SPACEBALLS: Revisidux
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Spaceballs Re-revisited 2010 The Special Edition is what I might call it.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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Ok, I have been deciding what I am going to do. I have a set idea, but I would like some of your all's tastes as well.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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Spaceballs: The Re-revisited Unauthorized Director's Special Double Dipped Platinum Edition

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Colour correction is coming along easily, but slowly. AE is taking a long time to do this. The effects editing will be a bigger challenge, but I will do my best.

I don't plan on doing much as far as audio goes, because there is no point. I may do some equalization to the audio to brighten it up a bit, because it is sounds like the mids are too high.

As I go, I will decide what I may add to the film, but that is only if I know I can do it. My work ethic is nowhere near what Ady's is, so if I can't do it, I won't. That does not mean I won't try my hardest to produce a quality fan-edit.

Thank you all!!

 

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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I wanted to ask about a possible Logo change. I like the original Logo in all it's blue glory, but I wanted to know if people wanted it updated. I do plan on reconstructing it, because of how crooked it is.

I want to replace the stars behind, because I like the look of billions of stars. I wanted to know if anybody wanted a metal logo, or yellow star wars like logo, or what.

I am for anything, but I may just keep the logo.

If everyone is for keeping the logo the same, I rebuild the titles, with the blue slightly more blue.

I would like to find this exact font, because this isn't very salvageable.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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A metal version of the logo sounds cool. Don't be a afraid to go wild with anything-- Spaceballs is a spoof of Star Wars, so think of this as a spoof of Star Wars Special Edition. Glossy fancy new stuff slapped on top of this movie will only make it funnier I think.

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I will make several logos sometime soon, and let everyone vote on them (this includes the original logo)

 

 

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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Not a fan, honestly. The color changes take away the original's snapshot of the 80s look and make it look like everything's sharp and covered in saran wrap.

As for the backgrounds, does it really enhance the flow of the scene if the stars fly by faster past the Winnebago windshield?

I'd even be willing to overlook the garbage mattes in this movie, because there are garbage mattes even in the material Brooks made fun of.

It's a comedy so unless you can sharpen the jokes, I don't see the point in all the revisionism.

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Not a fan, honestly. The color changes take away the original's snapshot of the 80s look and make it look like everything's sharp and covered in saran wrap.

As for the backgrounds, does it really enhance the flow of the scene if the stars fly by faster past the Winnebago windshield?

I'd even be willing to overlook the garbage mattes in this movie, because there are garbage mattes even in the material Brooks made fun of.

It's a comedy so unless you can sharpen the jokes, I don't see the point in all the revisionism.

We, as fan-editors do not in any means, want to destroy the integrity of these films.

I didn't set out to destroy the original Spaceballs with lush colours, and sharp effects. I wanted to have fun with this film. In no way do I want to give Mel Brooks the finger and say look what I did.

Ady's fan edits of Star Wars, influenced me to give Spaceballs a treatment of that quality. This will still be the Spaceballs we all know and love, just as Ady's edits of Star Wars are still the Star Wars we all know and love.

If you like keeping the things exactly the same, I would recommend the Preservation Efforts section.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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Krakatoa said:

Not a fan, honestly. The color changes take away the original's snapshot of the 80s look and make it look like everything's sharp and covered in saran wrap.

As for the backgrounds, does it really enhance the flow of the scene if the stars fly by faster past the Winnebago windshield?

I'd even be willing to overlook the garbage mattes in this movie, because there are garbage mattes even in the material Brooks made fun of.

It's a comedy so unless you can sharpen the jokes, I don't see the point in all the revisionism.

The changes are done from different POVs..

Yes enhancements arent for all the tastes here.

So if you said that the color takes away the 80s look then my goal achieved :) Im happy from that quote


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Just to add to any confusion, the title 'Spaceballs 2010', makes me think its a Helloween 2009 sort of film, and suggests a re-made re-hash, as opposed to a modernisation of the original film.

How about:

Spaceballs: ReJizzEdited

(as i took the 'balls' part of the movie and.....no, never mind, as my explination is messed-up enough already...right there, but its funny on so many levels when you think about it).

Austin Powers used explicitory language in the in the title of one of his films and mainly got away with it....