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Class316 said:

CMGF said:

The 4K restoration is an upscale,

That’s what I figured when I skimmed it.

CMGF said:

There were many fan made Blu Rays of Song of the South, some might be just a copy of V2. But the one that I am talking about is, as far as I know, a seperate restoration: https://www.songofthesouth.net/news/2020/11/12/song-of-the-south-turns-74-blu-rays-abound/

I wish we had access to this blu.

you can still get this copy. PM if you’d like. I can send you a link.

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Technically v3 exists but with no dirt removal or colour correction, I know for a fact it’s on TorrentLeech but I cannot reupload it.

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If it is with no dirt removal or color correction, how does it differ from V2?

“After all, the best part of a holiday is perhaps not so much to be resting yourself, as to see all the other fellows busy working”
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Isn’t v2 the laserdisc? v3 or what it was going to be was from a film scan. Though not actually scanned by Notelu.

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EPho3nix said:

Isn’t v2 the laserdisc? v3 or what it was going to be was from a film scan. Though not actually scanned by Notelu.

No V2 was from a 35mm scan as well.

“After all, the best part of a holiday is perhaps not so much to be resting yourself, as to see all the other fellows busy working”
-The wind in the willows

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Well its a much higher quality scan, though the print has colour issues, would be best to rescan a different print.

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You may have downloaded the wrong version, the quality of V2 is great. V3 was supposed to be the same scan, but with further clean up and color correction.

“After all, the best part of a holiday is perhaps not so much to be resting yourself, as to see all the other fellows busy working”
-The wind in the willows

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I got it directly from Notelu ages ago, so no.

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This is odd. V2 is 1080p, so it can’t be just a laserdisc.

“After all, the best part of a holiday is perhaps not so much to be resting yourself, as to see all the other fellows busy working”
-The wind in the willows

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V2 is definitely no laserdisc.

As far as I know [V2] Notelu’s Song Of The South Restoration is the best version of Song of the South that exists for the masses.

Now supposedly we have that songofthesouth.net blu which is different, and we have a V3 Notelu. But I have seen no evidence of either yet.

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It seems that blu is basically the Japanese laserdisc transferred to blu.

Here is a youtube review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OwG6myBVOY

And it is technically not a bootleg since it’s made in Japan where the movie is public domain.

Though the Japanese laserdisc actually had burnt in subtitles during songs. So I wonder how this version is subtitle free?

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I don’t think it is the Japanese laserdisc. As seen in the TV capture in the same review, the colors are quite different from the LD. I have seen this review and from what I remember they did mention the LD, but they did not say that it was the video source used for the Blu-Ray.

“After all, the best part of a holiday is perhaps not so much to be resting yourself, as to see all the other fellows busy working”
-The wind in the willows

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CMGF said:

I don’t think it is the Japanese laserdisc. As seen in the TV capture in the same review, the colors are quite different from the LD. I have seen this review and from what I remember they did mention the LD, but they did not say that it was the video source used for the Blu-Ray.

In the video they say it is, but they could also be wrong. As for color, whatever company that made it could have made adjustments.

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It could have been an upscaled and color corrected japanese laserdisc, but it does not make much sense because it has no japanese subtitles.

“After all, the best part of a holiday is perhaps not so much to be resting yourself, as to see all the other fellows busy working”
-The wind in the willows

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CMGF said:

It could have been an upscaled and color corrected japanese laserdisc, but it does not make much sense because it has no japanese subtitles.

Japanese VHD maybe? https://songofthesouth.net/memorabilia/detail.php?id=382

I also found this “2021 version” on facebook marketplace.


Disney SONG OF THE SOUTH DVD BEST QUALITY ALL NEW 2021 VERSION! CRYSTAL CLEAR READ DESCRIPTION

BRAND NEW DVD - FREE SHIPPING

IF THE AD IS UP IT’S AVAILABLE (No need to send “Is this available” messages because it is)

This is it folks!! The absolute BEST, CLEAREST, SHARPEST version of the movie ever available!!

This is an ALL NEW direct transfer from a studio 35mm Print with some clean up and restoration done!! The end result is video quality comparable to a decent studio released DVD.

This IS NOT from the UK VHS Source
This IS NOT from the Japan Laserdisc
This IS NOT from the one time UK Broadcast in 2006

Don’t be fooled by others claiming they are selling HD copies of the movie… they are NOT, that’s a lie… true HD quality will never exist for this film BUT, this DVD is the absolute HIGHEST QUALITY transfer of the film that has ever existed and MILES ABOVE EVERY OTHER VERSION OUT THERE!!

Answers to your questions:

I have already bought an older version from you can I exchange it for this one?

NO, BUT I will offer discounts to upgrade to this newer version, if you would like to upgrade a past purchase you made from ME go to your ORDERS section, find the order you placed with me and message me THROUGH THAT ORDER, if you request to upgrade without going through your original order it will be ignored, there are multiple sellers of the movie on here, I do not offer upgrade discounts for purchases made from other sellers.

Yes it in English

No there are no subtitles

Yes it’s the complete movie unedited

Yes it will work in USA DVD players

Yes it’s Available

Are there special features for this DVD?
No, sadly this DVD comes with no extras, it’s movie only… if you desire a decent watchable DVD with extra features look at my other items and purchase the old version, this DVD is for those who want the movie in as close to perfect quality that will ever be.

No it’s never been “Banned” that’s a myth, the choice to no longer support it by the studio was exactly that… a choice.

How did you get this DVD?
75 years ago this film was released, 75 years is the magic number for 99% of the countries in the world for rights to expire, thus this film is now Public Domain in 99% of the world, it’s sourced from outside of the USA.

New and Unused, Sealed DVD

Original 1946 Full Length Uncut Movie

94 Minutes Running Time
Region 0 for use World-Wide
1:33:1 Full Screen
Audio: English, Mono 2.0
No subtitles, No Closed Captioning
Format NTSC (USA) DVD (DVDR)

Song of the South is a blend of live action and animation, based on the popular “Uncle Remus” stories of Joel Chandler Harris. Set in the years just after the Civil War, the story begins with young Johnny (Bobby Driscoll) being sent to live at the southern plantation of his grandmother (Lucile Watson) while his parents contemplate divorce. At first disconsolate, the boy is cheered up by African-American handyman Uncle Remus (James Baskett), who tells him many delightful fables concerning the clever trickster Br’er Rabbit, whose adventures are illustrated in cartoon form. Each story has a moral, which Johnny applies to the exigencies of his real life. Johnny’s mother (Ruth Warrick) disapproves of Uncle Remus, and orders the boy never to visit the kindly old black man again. Uncle Remus packs his bags and leaves; while chasing after him, Johnny is injured by a bull. He recovers thanks to the friendly presence of Uncle Remus, and all is forgiven. The film was awarded the Best Song Oscar for “Zip-a-dee Doo Dah,” and James Baskett won a special Oscar for his portrayal of Uncle Remus.

Purchase through the “Buy” button on Facebook or I accept PayPal for payments.


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Class316 said:

CMGF said:

It could have been an upscaled and color corrected japanese laserdisc, but it does not make much sense because it has no japanese subtitles.

Japanese VHD maybe? https://songofthesouth.net/memorabilia/detail.php?id=382

I also found this “2021 version” on facebook marketplace.


Disney SONG OF THE SOUTH DVD BEST QUALITY ALL NEW 2021 VERSION! CRYSTAL CLEAR READ DESCRIPTION

BRAND NEW DVD - FREE SHIPPING

IF THE AD IS UP IT’S AVAILABLE (No need to send “Is this available” messages because it is)

This is it folks!! The absolute BEST, CLEAREST, SHARPEST version of the movie ever available!!

This is an ALL NEW direct transfer from a studio 35mm Print with some clean up and restoration done!! The end result is video quality comparable to a decent studio released DVD.

This IS NOT from the UK VHS Source
This IS NOT from the Japan Laserdisc
This IS NOT from the one time UK Broadcast in 2006

Don’t be fooled by others claiming they are selling HD copies of the movie… they are NOT, that’s a lie… true HD quality will never exist for this film BUT, this DVD is the absolute HIGHEST QUALITY transfer of the film that has ever existed and MILES ABOVE EVERY OTHER VERSION OUT THERE!!

Answers to your questions:

I have already bought an older version from you can I exchange it for this one?

NO, BUT I will offer discounts to upgrade to this newer version, if you would like to upgrade a past purchase you made from ME go to your ORDERS section, find the order you placed with me and message me THROUGH THAT ORDER, if you request to upgrade without going through your original order it will be ignored, there are multiple sellers of the movie on here, I do not offer upgrade discounts for purchases made from other sellers.

Yes it in English

No there are no subtitles

Yes it’s the complete movie unedited

Yes it will work in USA DVD players

Yes it’s Available

Are there special features for this DVD?
No, sadly this DVD comes with no extras, it’s movie only… if you desire a decent watchable DVD with extra features look at my other items and purchase the old version, this DVD is for those who want the movie in as close to perfect quality that will ever be.

No it’s never been “Banned” that’s a myth, the choice to no longer support it by the studio was exactly that… a choice.

How did you get this DVD?
75 years ago this film was released, 75 years is the magic number for 99% of the countries in the world for rights to expire, thus this film is now Public Domain in 99% of the world, it’s sourced from outside of the USA.

New and Unused, Sealed DVD

Original 1946 Full Length Uncut Movie

94 Minutes Running Time
Region 0 for use World-Wide
1:33:1 Full Screen
Audio: English, Mono 2.0
No subtitles, No Closed Captioning
Format NTSC (USA) DVD (DVDR)

Song of the South is a blend of live action and animation, based on the popular “Uncle Remus” stories of Joel Chandler Harris. Set in the years just after the Civil War, the story begins with young Johnny (Bobby Driscoll) being sent to live at the southern plantation of his grandmother (Lucile Watson) while his parents contemplate divorce. At first disconsolate, the boy is cheered up by African-American handyman Uncle Remus (James Baskett), who tells him many delightful fables concerning the clever trickster Br’er Rabbit, whose adventures are illustrated in cartoon form. Each story has a moral, which Johnny applies to the exigencies of his real life. Johnny’s mother (Ruth Warrick) disapproves of Uncle Remus, and orders the boy never to visit the kindly old black man again. Uncle Remus packs his bags and leaves; while chasing after him, Johnny is injured by a bull. He recovers thanks to the friendly presence of Uncle Remus, and all is forgiven. The film was awarded the Best Song Oscar for “Zip-a-dee Doo Dah,” and James Baskett won a special Oscar for his portrayal of Uncle Remus.

Purchase through the “Buy” button on Facebook or I accept PayPal for payments.


I guarantee that’s probably Notelu’s version they obtained and just said its their own.

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jamesxphoto said:

I guarantee that’s probably Notelu’s version they obtained and just said its their own.

That’s what I was thinking. Buy why put it on a DVD not a blu?

And we still don’t know the source of that Japanese blu reviewed on youtube.

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Class316 said:

jamesxphoto said:

I guarantee that’s probably Notelu’s version they obtained and just said its their own.

That’s what I was thinking. Buy why put it on a DVD not a blu?

Yeah that’s weird. I guess they are most likely not telling the truth, because they say that this movie will never be available on HD, while we have Notelu’s version since 2018/17.

And we still don’t know the source of that Japanese blu reviewed on youtube.

I may have the answer.
The songofthesouth.net review said:


“I had an opportunity to review one such copy, produced by Stinky Tuna. The quality is by far the best out there to date, owing in part to its source — a 16mm film print originally remastered…”


Because the Blu Ray is (as far as I know) not produced by them, I guess they have no interest to lie. There is also a seperate review for Notelu’s version there, so most likely this is a different restoration.

“After all, the best part of a holiday is perhaps not so much to be resting yourself, as to see all the other fellows busy working”
-The wind in the willows

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CMGF said:

Class316 said:

jamesxphoto said:

I guarantee that’s probably Notelu’s version they obtained and just said its their own.

That’s what I was thinking. Buy why put it on a DVD not a blu?

Yeah that’s weird. I guess they are most likely not telling the truth, because they say that this movie will never be available on HD, while we have Notelu’s version since 2018/17.

And we still don’t know the source of that Japanese blu reviewed on youtube.

I may have the answer.
The songofthesouth.net review said:


“I had an opportunity to review one such copy, produced by Stinky Tuna. The quality is by far the best out there to date, owing in part to its source — a 16mm film print originally remastered…”


Because the Blu Ray is (as far as I know) not produced by them, I guess they have no interest to lie. There is also a seperate review for Notelu’s version there, so most likely this is a different restoration.

okay if they state its the 16mm print that’s been floating around for a while now so thats why its on dvd. because its a small file.

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jamesxphoto said:

CMGF said:

Class316 said:

jamesxphoto said:

I guarantee that’s probably Notelu’s version they obtained and just said its their own.

That’s what I was thinking. Buy why put it on a DVD not a blu?

Yeah that’s weird. I guess they are most likely not telling the truth, because they say that this movie will never be available on HD, while we have Notelu’s version since 2018/17.

And we still don’t know the source of that Japanese blu reviewed on youtube.

I may have the answer.
The songofthesouth.net review said:


“I had an opportunity to review one such copy, produced by Stinky Tuna. The quality is by far the best out there to date, owing in part to its source — a 16mm film print originally remastered…”


Because the Blu Ray is (as far as I know) not produced by them, I guess they have no interest to lie. There is also a seperate review for Notelu’s version there, so most likely this is a different restoration.

okay if they state its the 16mm print that’s been floating around for a while now so thats why its on dvd. because its a small file.

I meant the stinkytuna Blu Ray, not the DVD. I don’t know if it is the same 16mm scan that is available on torrent sites or a different print.

“After all, the best part of a holiday is perhaps not so much to be resting yourself, as to see all the other fellows busy working”
-The wind in the willows

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Yea there’s a 16mm version that’s a small filesize (which is on myspleen), whether or not that’s the one on either the stinkytuna blu reviewed on youtube or the “2021 version” DVD is anybody’s guess.

The “2021 version” DVD can’t possibly be better than Notelu V2 on archive since it’s DVD sized (whatever version they may have used for it).

The stinkytuna blu is described as the Japanese laserdisc by the youtube review (though seems odd given that there are no burnt in subs during songs) and is described as a “16mm film print” on the songofthesouth.net review. A good guess is that it’s not better than Notelu V2.

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Class316 said:

Yea there’s a 16mm version that’s a small filesize (which is on myspleen), whether or not that’s the one on either the stinkytuna blu reviewed on youtube or the “2021 version” DVD is anybody’s guess.

The “2021 version” DVD can’t possibly be better than Notelu V2 on archive since it’s DVD sized (whatever version they may have used for it).

The stinkytuna blu is described as the Japanese laserdisc by the youtube review (though seems odd given that there are no burnt in subs during songs) and is described as a “16mm film print” on the songofthesouth.net review. A good guess is that it’s not better than Notelu V2.

Whether any of them is better than Notelu’s version depends on the restoration. There is always a chance that Stinkytuna or the one who released the “2021 version” did further cleanup or color correction to make it look closer to an official release. However, I personally would not spend money on a release that, in 2021, claims that Song of the South will never be available in HD when it has been available since 2018.

“After all, the best part of a holiday is perhaps not so much to be resting yourself, as to see all the other fellows busy working”
-The wind in the willows