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“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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Did you read that thread a few weeks ago, some people on here would have no problem with updated special effects in a O,T SE but when things like Greedo firing first, Hayden in Jedi and pointless Darth Vader shuttle scenes etc are added, people draw the line..........


I know you not banned from T.F.n or S.W com I was joking that why I put the smilie there, I dont give a crap what version you like, but dont preach and say somethings horrible because you dont think it goes with your holy Saga
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Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
in my opinion any one who thinks the butchered bastardized 2004 editions of the star wars trilogy is better than the oot, is too young to remember what being a true fan of the legendary saga was about, until lucas tried to rewrite history and the truth.

From a certain point of view...

Originally posted by: Mr Bungle
Did you read that thread a few weeks ago, some people on here would have no problem with updated special effects in a O,T SE but when things like Greedo firing first, Hayden in Jedi and pointless Darth Vader shuttle scenes etc are added, people draw the line.


I know you not banned from T.F.n or S.W com I was joking that why I put the smilie there, I dont give a crap what version you like, but dont preach and say somethings horrible because you dont think it goes with your holy Saga


OK, I'll try not to, that is, if I don't find people doing the same to the version I like.
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Originally posted by: Invader Jenny
Originally posted by: HotRod
Who really gives a shit?



Uhh...me.
And apparently the people who created this site.


jeez, calm down

"Yub Knub" by Warrick Davis
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i hate the remastered dvds for that above example alone. what is up with blue hoth? it looks like different films to me now. its not that im against change but the dvds just look strange. i think i could get over any special edition tinkering if the films would just look more natural, meaning a little more grain, more contrast, less weird color and a little more brightness. this would match up with the prequels better, they look more natural than these movies do now and thats saying something
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Film grain, I believe he means. Make it look more like a film and less like a cartoon.
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Yeah, I know what it is. That's why I was asking why he wanted more grain.
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as opposed to none? ill take more over none any day
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The only movie I have ever seen that more grain works well for is "The Day After."
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In my experience, a little grain makes it feel like a real film. It gives it some character. That's why, as amazing as the new transfer of Wizard of Oz is, if they'd got rid of the grain feel entirely, it'd just be too soft.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that film grain could have saved TPM, even.
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i never thought that some day there wouldnt be grain on films anymore, i always thought grain was part of the charm of film. i think it adds more depth. im not against digital photography i just like preserving things the way they were when they were first released. not add anything which they do when they take away things that were origianlly there. still i could lose the grain if they just fixed some of the other things i was talking about . or 'unfix' them
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I like some too, but, and it's interesting that this should come up right now, but I just watched my Phantom Menace DVD last night for the first time, and I was amazed at how much gunk there was on the picture. I mean, an exorbitant amount. I think maybe it's just DVD artifacting, and if it is, that's a horrible amount to have! Does anybody else notice this?

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Caravan of Courage and The Battle for Endor are HEAVY on grain. Thankfully, my holiday special copy isn't, as it's the KCCI copy from the one and only airing.
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those look blue also, cant the just put the film on dvd without messing with them so much?
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I wanted the ewok films digitally remastered, but, unfortunately, everything was rushed for all of those 2004 Star Wars releases.
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Originally posted by: sybeman
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that film grain could have saved TPM, even.
Have you seen the original 'Phantom Edit', the one that started it all? Because it is taken from a second generation VHS, the cartoon CGI doesn't look so bad, plus all the crap is cut out - it's actually watchable.

War does not make one great.

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I was listening to one of those audiocasts from the OS a while back, and Rick McCallum was talking about how in the early 90's when George first approached him with his project for the prequels, he told him of how a lot of their long-time fans would be upset becuase the films were not going to adjust their current age and mindset, but were instead going to be made in the exact style as the very films they grew up with, which was going to be jarring for them.

Hmmm....

(By the way, today is Nov 17, the 27th anniversary of the holiday special.)
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Preaching again Adam

I cant speak for everyone on here but I have given the fucking films every chance, and is nothing to do with resisting change, nostagia or any other reason you or Lucas can come up with

The quality is not there for me in Menace particually period.....
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Agreed, Bungle.

I saw TPM 13 times in the theatre. Don't laugh.

It was really cool the first 2 times. After that...well. It doesn't hold up to repeat viewings.

Oh, and the other 11 times I went to see it? It was like walking in on your parents jamming - you want to burn your eyes after with an acetelyne torch, but you cant. look. away.
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Agreed Bungle.
Cassidy, why not just stop after 3 viewings?

War does not make one great.

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“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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i also like what someone else said about the prequels having no breathers between scenes. you know scenes where the audience can catch thier breath. the films go from one scene to the next without pausing, i noticed that but didnt know exactly what it was when i first saw tpm. thats really been more my criticism for these films than anything else. theyre tiring