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Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

We really REALLY need an FAQ.

We have one.  I just don't feel like searching for it right now :p

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Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

We really REALLY need an FAQ.

 

Or we could simply redirect new users to savestarwars.com since it has most of these details explained, along with a comprehensive story of the fan restoration phenomenon.

Ignorant of many things, but still a real bro.

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luke.the.darkside.is.fun said:

what we need is a nice final set of the star wars movies. but we know thats not going to happen.

Since there is no final home video format, there will be no final set.

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There is probably a resolution plateau (which we are pretty close to now) where even the expertly trained eye will not be able to tell the difference between film resolution and digital resolution.

Then private physical storage (if it survives) will become a matter for the consumer rather than any publisher.

Downloads permanent or temporary I imagine is the ultimate future for visual media.

 

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Bingowings said:


There is probably a resolution plateau (which we are pretty close to now) where even the expertly trained eye will not be able to tell the difference between film resolution and digital resolution.
The resolution plateau has already been reached: the last two prequels were shot and mastered at 1080p. The cost of early adoption of digital cinema. And if they never can "afford" to scan the original film prints, the 2004 versions were scanned and mastered at 1080p. If they wanted a higher resolution, they'd have to start from scratch (at least start from the 97SE, which was at 2k).

Basically, unless things change, the BD will be the highest quality of Star Wars. It WILL be the highest quality for Episodes 2 and 3.

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I meant between analogue film and digital media in general but the short term thinking evident when making the last two prequels clearly has halted any resolution improvement for two of the films (not that most people would notice).

I'm not convinced that optical disc media has much of a future to it but I'm surprised how successful blu-ray has managed to become (not everyone has the space for the screens big enough to justify the extra expense of a HD upgrade but some consumers are quicker to faddishly spend then they are to factor in the value factor).

It costs money to press discs that I can imagine that distributors would be keen to avoid.

 

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doubleofive said:

the 2004 versions were scanned and mastered at 1080p. 

Really? Why would they do that?

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Alexrd said:


doubleofive said:
the 2004 versions were scanned and mastered at 1080p. 
Really? Why would they do that?
No one knows. Perhaps they felt that it was good enough for now, or the conspiracy theorist in me thinks that maybe they didn't want the OT to be higher resolution than Ep2 and 3.

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If the blu-ray does match the Frames book, is that a sign that the tinkering days might be behind us?

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doubleofive said:

 

Alexrd said:


doubleofive said:
the 2004 versions were scanned and mastered at 1080p. 
Really? Why would they do that?
No one knows. Perhaps they felt that it was good enough for now, or the conspiracy theorist in me thinks that maybe they didn't want the OT to be higher resolution than Ep2 and 3.

 

It is because a 1080/24p digital presentation is better/superior to a 3rd/4th generation 35mm interpositive release print(which is what all the Star Wars films were/are).

If you saw the original Star wars in the theater in 77'  or in any of the other subsequent years up until 1985......all you saw was an image that was roughly equivalent to 700 lines per picture height(lpph).

That is barely above the resolution of standard definition dvd.

These tests confirmed the above:

 

http://www.etconsult.com/papers/Technical%20Issues%20in%20Cinema%20Resolution.pdf

Film theoretically has very good resolution capabilities. What is delivered to the theatre is another story. If we believe the ITU tests, then images captured at almost 2400 lines per picture height on the camera negative deliver significantly degraded on screen resolution through the projection system – in the range of 500 – 800 lines per picture height. 500 lines corresponds to about 9 line pairs per degree from 2 screen heights.

 

 

 

 

That is why Lucas said the following:

Lucas revealed that CineAlta is not only more easily manipulated but can also be blown up more than film. “We’ve done tests [where] we are blowing [digital images] up 50-60 percent on top of it already being blown up to be widescreen and getting an absolutely beautiful image. We had to go a long way before the [digital] image starts to fall apart… We were all shocked, even the guys at ILM.”

 

http://www.sony.co.uk/biz/content/id/1166605183359/section/broadcast-case-studies-hdcam?articlesection=2

 

 

 

I saw Star Wars in 1977. Many, many, many times. For 3 years it was just Star Wars...period. I saw it in good theaters, cheap theaters and drive-ins with those clunky metal speakers you hang on your window. The screen and sound quality never subtracted from the excitement. I can watch the original cut right now, over 30 years later, on some beat up VHS tape and enjoy it. It's the story that makes this movie. Nothing? else.

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