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Originally posted by: Mentasm
Bloody hell, Fox really didn't want me to open those DVDs! I don't know about anyone else, but the security stickers on mine were really tacky, and left loads of residue on the cases. I just spent ages using sticky tape to get it off a piece at a time. I'm in work at the moment so the only copy of PowerDVD I have is some useless cut-down Dell version, but first impressions of the transfers are not good. I'll see how they stack up when I get home.
They'll never look as good on a computer anyway.
Some were not blessed with brains.
<blockquote>Originally posted by: BadAssKeith

You are passing up on a great opportunity to makes lots of money,
make Lucas lose a lot of his money
and make him look bad to the entire world
and you could be well known and liked

None of us here like Lucas or Lucasfilm.
I have death wishes on Lucas and Macullum.
we could all probably get 10s of thousands of dollars!
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"but first impressions of the transfers are not good."

"They'll never look as good on a computer anyway."


LOL, here come the excuses already...

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Originally posted by: boris
Originally posted by: Mentasm
Bloody hell, Fox really didn't want me to open those DVDs! I don't know about anyone else, but the security stickers on mine were really tacky, and left loads of residue on the cases. I just spent ages using sticky tape to get it off a piece at a time. I'm in work at the moment so the only copy of PowerDVD I have is some useless cut-down Dell version, but first impressions of the transfers are not good. I'll see how they stack up when I get home.
They'll never look as good on a computer anyway.


*LOL*

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I checked out a few of the reviews on Amazon.com for SW EPIV and here are two that stood out:


I happened upon the new DVD at a retailer who put it out too soon.

The 1st disc is the exact same disc that came with the trilogy box set released in 2004, so nothing to report there.

The 2nd disc is the reason anyone is buying: to see the original version of the film that won over the world in 1977, before an insecure George went back and mucked it all up with visions of CG bouncing in his head.

THE NEGATIVE: It is not an animorphic transfer, and the print on this disc did not benefit from any of the restoration performed in the mid 1990s. You'll see film-grain, some edge-aliasing, specs of dust, and a scratch or two. The audio is in plain old Dolby 2.0.

THE POSITIVE: Dinosaurs are not roaming the streets of Tatooine. Greedo never shoots. One of the aliens in the catina has glowing eyes.Alderaan and the Death Star don't look like Saturn while they are exploding. Jabba and Boba Fett will have to wait a film or two to make their appearance. And the John Williams' amazing score during the Death Star battle, which was drowned out in the new mix for the Special Edition DVD, is right back where its supposed to be.

In other words, everything you loved about Star Wars is back even if it doesn't look and sound as good as it could, it is still a damn fine presentation, and I for one will not bother watching the Special Edition version again.

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I just finished watching the original version DVD's of the first STAR WARS film (and about half of EMPIRE), and I have to say that it looks better then any of the bootlegs that I've collected over the years of the original cut of STAR WARS, but unfortunately, it still doesn't hold a tea cup to the picture quality of the newly remastered mess of a revisionist version that Lucas keeps trying to shove down our throats (coincidence, I think not...)

The picture, for the original version, has a slight, but almost ever present, veil of grain to it (probably the result of trying to up convert the Laserdisc masters, that is supposedly the source being used, to the DVD format) as well, the colour balance is tilted slightly to the red spectrum, making people look like they have bad sunburns at times.

Also, STAR WARS and EMPIRE original version disc's cover art seem to have been conceived by a different person then that of JEDI, because you get these crappy art montages for STAR WARS and EMPIRE, but for JEDI, they use an alternate poster art, which is what they should have done with all of the discs, seeing as the original poster art is saved for the newer recut version discs (which is the same tired disc that Lucas has been trying to cram down our throats for years now, ever since his newer trilogy made it necessary to go back to the original films, and change things to reflect his newer version of events from the past... Confused yet?)

Is it worth the money to buy these new discs, well that depends on just what kind of STAR WARS fan you are, if you can stomach the changes to the films that Lucas has made, and already own the first incarnate of the DVD's, then probably not, but if you're tired of bootlegs with questionable picture quality, and can get past the grainy picture of the new, original version DVD's, then it's a no brainer...


They both still gave it 4 stars, though LOL



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just an FYI for those of us in Canada...

Future Shop has got in its stock of Star Wars DVDs, although owned by Best Buy, there is no collectible tin so far....
i have went through all the promo material we'll be displaying for the DVDs and unfortunatly there doesnt seem to be any free swag if you buy from us...

i will keep you informed about anything we're giving away with the release.
"Never. I'll never turn to the darkside. You've failed your highness. I am a jedi, like my father before me."
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I can't even begin to stress how much I'm dying to see some screen grabs of the new OT DVD's!!! Those who got the DVD's, please get some uploaded tonight, pleasepleaseplease!!

www.bardothodol.net

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I've seen screengrabs on another site, but my work's firewall prevents me from accessing them. As soon as I get home, I'll link to them (unless there's someone else here who can get to outerrimsieges.com. Harlock, maybe?)

The quality of the video is described as being comparable to Moth3r's.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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.....the colour balance is tilted slightly to the red spectrum, making people look like they have bad sunburns at times.

That's not surprising, considering that the laserdiscs have a slight reddish cast as well. I'm curious to know how the DVDs look in direct comparison to the LDs.

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thanks THX, after checking them out, I won't be wasting my money on these DVD's. Barely any better than the Fan versions. How disappointing

www.bardothodol.net

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The thing could be dipped in blood for all I care. I wants me some '77 Star Wars reeeeeal bad.
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First is the official DVD, followed by EditDroid's leterboxed LD Transfer, then Dr M's PAL to NTSC conversion of Moth3r's ANAMORPHIC LD transfer.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b69/Harlock415/Misc/STAR_WARS-1.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b69/Harlock415/Misc/EDITDROID_ANH-1.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b69/Harlock415/Misc/RTW_ANH-1.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b69/Harlock415/Misc/STAR_WARS-1-42-28A.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b69/Harlock415/Misc/STAR_WARS-1-42-28B.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b69/Harlock415/Misc/RTW_ANH-2.jpg

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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why are you sorry to say? I wish i could see the clips but for some reason, my college keeps blocking the site.
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Well, apparently they're encoded progressive, so that's good news at least.

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Those clips are a lot sharper than any of the bootleg versions I've seen. Looks like I'll be binning my Editdroid versions soon.
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is there another way to see the clips? my college is blocking those sites currently.
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I can't access MF.com from work either. Anyway, the clips I uploaded over there are in xVid format and look better than they probably are in the real world. One thing that you can't see from the Star Wars clips is the telecine wobble, which is quite distracting. There's a lot of grain, and many, many film artefacts. On the plus side, the colours are less cartoonish than the 2004 releases and the audio isn't screwed. The sequels do look better than SW does, which is to be expected. Try these links.

Opening Crawl
Han Shoots Greedo
The Chimplady Emperor
Hayden Christensen No More!
"Whatever! I digitally put Jabba the Hutt back into the original Star Wars movie! I'll do what I want!"
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well, it looks like my college wants to be retarded and wants to block that website too.
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Thanks for putting these up for all to see. The crawl does look like the real deal. I can see the wobble a bit there too. I wonder if the original crawl was transferred back then for a possible LD boxset extra and then nixed? It will be interesting to compare this to the Empire of Dreams clip.
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The OUT release looks better than the old VHS set I have, and I will definitely be getting them!


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AgenKolar, why exactly are you sorry?

Originally posted by: Mentasm
I can't access MF.com from work either. Anyway, the clips I uploaded over there are in xVid format and look better than they probably are in the real world. One thing that you can't see from the Star Wars clips is the telecine wobble, which is quite distracting. There's a lot of grain, and many, many film artefacts. On the plus side, the colours are less cartoonish than the 2004 releases and the audio isn't screwed. The sequels do look better than SW does, which is to be expected. Try these links.

Opening Crawl
Han Shoots Greedo
The Chimplady Emperor
Hayden Christensen No More!

I am at home and able to see them at MF.com, and man, is that wobble DISTRACTING!!! Why the heck would they leave it like that?!?

Uh oh, I just watched the ESB and ROTJ clips there too and there is a slight wobble on them also (though no where near as great as the SW opening crawl). And you are right, Mentasm, there is A LOT of noticeable grain (FYI I am viewing them on my 17" LCD monitor), so I can only imagine how noticeable it will be on my WS TV...

The jury is still out for me and I will probably need to do what I suggested in another thread: rent them first and watch them on my TV before I make my decision.



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Originally posted by: Mentasm
I can't access MF.com from work either. Anyway, the clips I uploaded over there are in xVid format and look better than they probably are in the real world. One thing that you can't see from the Star Wars clips is the telecine wobble, which is quite distracting. There's a lot of grain, and many, many film artefacts.

Is the telecine wobble worse than on the LDs? It shouldn't be.




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I've not seen the DVDs, but there is quite a bit of wobble on the LDs. When I overlayed the EoD scene (for eros: Empire of Dreams segment showing the opening crawl) with my generated crawl, the smoothness really stood out in contrast (though again, I prefered the "wobble". Much more film-like.)

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Holy crap in a can.... those are way better than I expected. And the vid captures are lower-res than the actual DVD, I'd assume, for the purposes of internet posting, so the may be even a teensy bit better than that...

I'm buying 'em.

I can live with 80% of the SE additions. I even like the PT (overall). But not releasing the OOT in respectable condition? That's unacceptable.