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So then, PAL or NTSC GOUT for best quality? — Page 2

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Hmm, after reading the thread I believe Vigo is a bit out of hand. Even if Boris makes mistakes or assumes too much, that's no reason to treat him badly.

Otherwise, long, nerdy arguments are fun, but I agree that "infantile flaming" is going too far.


"Now all Lucas has to do is make a cgi version of himself.  It will be better than the original and fit his original vision." - skyjedi2005

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I understand Vigo's frustration. Boris is a huge pain in the ass. From day one he has spewed pseudo facts and pseudo reasoning about all things "technical",
has been corrected and shown that he is in error but continues to spout "facts" left and right.
Remember "Cliff" the mailman from the sitcom "Cheers"? Boris is his twin brother.

Here's an example of the highly detailed knowledge of Boris(from this thread):
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Absolutely not! The picture may actually be greater quality, because they've stretched it (professionally) all the way to the sides of the display, whereas they haven't with the NTSC. Therefore, the thin black borders will distort the picture at the very edges right and left. Also the audio isn't a problem... technically they don't "speed it up" anymore anyway, what they do is they "stretch it" in a way that keeps the pitch consistent (rather then speeding it up, which raises the pitch slightly). Also, you get thicker scan-lines on NTSC which may bother some people, and the NTSC pulldown - which is far worse the speeding the movie up 1 frame per second.


When I read ramblings like this, it's clear someone is trying hard to sound more knowledgeable than they are. Don't misunderstand; it's also entertaining....to a point....

I love everybody. Lets all smoke some reefer and chill. Hug and kisses for everybody.

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Right, trying to get this back on topic....

Just discovered on another thread that the NTSC dvd appears to be larger in size than the PAL version.

The videofolder for the PAL GOUT is:

6.45 GB (6,448,742,400)

Could someone post the NTSC video-ts folder size please? This might be an indication that the NTSC version could possibly have the edge in picture quality stakes? If so I'll take my PAL release back and order from overseas.

Cheers.

- John
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But - from what I've read - it IS a conversion from NTSC and not a freshly minted PAL release. I would have thought the NTSC could - in theory - have the edge due to the lack of this additional picture processing stage of the PAL release. The NTSC version also appears to use more bytes on the disc than the PAL, though perhaps this is due to the extra running time compared with the speeded up PAL DVD...

I've given into the dark side and ordered the Star Wars set + tin from a fellow on Ebay after sayign I wouldn't buy! Currently hanging my head in shame, but after seeing the PAL release of Star Wars (and finding it acceptable) and realising this may well be th elast time to purchase it I gave in.

Damn you Lucas (shakes fist in general direction of America) - another £40 of my hard earned gone to your Empire!!!

;-)