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Slideshow of ANH changes since 1977

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Check out this page of changes to Episode IV since 1977, some even I didn't know about

http://www.starwars.com/episode-iv/release/video/f20060825/index.html

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Wow, there's a lot of stuff in there you'd never catch unless they told you. That's what pisses me off. They fix all this stuff that makes no real difference, yet leave the most obvious inconsistencies, like the lightsabers, looking like crap.

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Amazing. And some of the improvements create their own bloopers. The Death Star hangar bay Han Solo now chases the stormtroopers into still has the light reflection on the floor from the original dead end wall that was digitally erased.

Where were you in '77?

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Originally posted by: PaulisDead2221
"Ahh, the most talked about change of them all" The one change that pissed off the die-hard purist fans the most....

Han Solo's dialogue was shortened to allow an exchange of blaster fire in 1997!

Dammit Lucas why are you shortening my favorite film's dialogue!??!?!


HAHAHAHAHA when I saw that I laughed soooooo hard
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Originally posted by: InfoDroid
Wow, there's a lot of stuff in there you'd never catch unless they told you.
there are still things they left out.
Some were not blessed with brains.
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make Lucas lose a lot of his money
and make him look bad to the entire world
and you could be well known and liked

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I have death wishes on Lucas and Macullum.
we could all probably get 10s of thousands of dollars!
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Honestly, a lot of the pictures of the 1997 version look BETTER than the 2004 editions. You really see how much they crunched the colors and lost all the detail.

How is that better?!

My favorite is picture 28 - when the big ronto passes the land speeder when Luke and company get stopped in Mos Eisley. Wow...what an improvement. A high-rez texture in my face.

What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.

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Originally posted by: Master Skywalker
Hmm, what I did notice, the aspect ratio of these screenies are identical, so this transfer is anamorphic?

MS


Yeah, right.
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Originally posted by: Mavimao
My favorite is picture 28 - when the big ronto passes the land speeder when Luke and company get stopped in Mos Eisley. Wow...what an improvement. A high-rez texture in my face.


It completly ruins the scene, IMHO.

I remember a SFX wizard bragging how they were able to put a lot of Rontos in the Mos Esley scenes. In fact, there is at least two of them in every scene. This is so stupid... And that poor beast is not even interesting! It is one of the most poorly designed creature in the Star Wars Universe....
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Does frame 32 indicate this is a blasted interlaced release?

Edit: Interesting. No frame of the infamous green saber aboard the Falcon.
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I'm pretty confident it will be interlaced.
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Now that I've seen all the frames, it is interesting to see what changes were good and what changes were bad. And it is definitely obvious how screwed-up the color is on the 2004 set. There are a few shots where you can't see the characters in the 2004 screenshots, yet they're clear as day on the 1977 shots.
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The Rontos were actually the Brontosaurus model from Jurassic Park recycled. (Hence the name.) I still can't figure out what use such a beast would be to anybody on a planet like Tatooine. Is there a rock quarry outside Mos Eisely someplace?

Where were you in '77?

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I could almost have lived with a ronto in Star Wars, if there'da been a subtle homage to see. Like a Jawa surfing down a ronto tail?

On second thought, Star Wars was fine how it was. Doesn't need rontos, more Jawas, or homages.
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Originally posted by: Master Skywalker
Hmm, what I did notice, the aspect ratio of these screenies are identical, so this transfer is anamorphic?

MS


I wonder if they just cropped them.

Or maybe they took the frames from the negatives/masters
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They're just resized screen caps for the purpose of the slideshow. They are not anamorphic.
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Does frame 32 indicate this is a blasted interlaced release?



Nope. Here's the caption under that slide:


The original 1977 version of this shot suffered poor image quality from repeated optical compositing to obscure the wheels of the landspeeder with a hand-animated haze.

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.

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They forgot to mention the following changes:

- Insertion of vertical scanlines into the holographic projections of Leia.
- Changing of graphics during the Death Star Battle of the "aiming computer" displays
- they fixed the "jump cut" when 3PO and R2 are walking past the shooting stormtroopers at the beginning, when the explosion to the right is detonating
- they fixed the "jump cut" during the beginning of the movie when R2 unrolls his third leg, after Leia gave him the plans...

There are probably more...

And while I´m now watching the 2004SE for comparisons: There is still lots of film grain in the 2004SE, so all this talk about a digitally washed up version is really stupid. The only thing they totally fucked up in the restauration is the colour.



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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan Does frame 32 indicate this is a blasted interlaced release?

I think what you see in this frame is DVNR (noise reduction) artefacts (smearing and object trails).

So far I've not seen any typical interlacing artefacts in any of the presented screenshots, but we need more captures or video clips to tell for sure if it really is progressive.


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- Changing of graphics during the Death Star Battle of the "aiming computer" displays

What did they change?

- they fixed the "jump cut" when 3PO and R2 are walking past the shooting stormtroopers at the beginning, when the explosion to the right is detonating
- they fixed the "jump cut" during the beginning of the movie when R2 unrolls his third leg, after Leia gave him the plans...


Are you sure you weren't watching my edition? I had to fix both of those because the jump cut is still evident (there is no jump in the picture as a whole any more, but they didn't fix the hopping stormtroopers or the slight jump that was still left on R2 - and it wouldn't be something you could show with still pictures anyway).

There were all kinds of wobbly cuts present on my SE LDs which are almost entirely gone on the DVD.

There is still lots of film grain in the 2004SE


I know the word "lots" is subjective, but on most of my fixes I didn't add any grain to the patches and you really can't tell. Lately I've been adding noise (about 1%, and I'd say that's not lots) but only because I'm minutely analysing the fixes to check that they're good, or pasting such large areas that the lack of noise tells your brain there's something "wrong" with the picture, though it's not immediately obvious what.

DE
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^In the Death Star thing, they changed a miniscule part of the frame from English to Aurebesh, Editous. I can't really see it, so I had no idea.
I thought the only written English in the movie was on the tractor beam.

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The spacing of the words in the title crawl has changed to avoid single words on a line ending a paragraph. Also note that the capitalization of "Rebel" was fixed in the second paragraph so that it matches the first.


Wow ... so what, they didn't notice that the first paragraph's "rebel" began a sentence? I guess we aren't capitalizing sentence-starters anymore? And what of the "rebel" in (Empire? Jedi? can't recall, but in one [both?] of those, "rebel" is indeed lowercased) later films? No correction there? Ha ...
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here's something I did for fun one day in 2005 after watching Episode IV... they mess all kinds of things up and THEN what is up with that lack of saber color continuity?!

I think this post does relate to this discussion so I will send it anyway...

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/3632/lightsaberchanges001tm8.jpg

and this was a relatively easy edit on photoshop...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/Lord_Phillock/starwarssig.png

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I'm just laughing at the fact they felt the need to re-edit the bloody crawl to look "more like a block" and to not end a paragraph with one word. Honestly. That's just effing petty in comparison to the other changes. And changing an entire scene just to add in a digital sunset? Yes, Lucas, we get it; you have a shiny computer that makes pretty pictures.

Also: if you want to fix a scene, add rontos. They solve everything. Have to add colour to a scene? Add a ronto! Need to hide the fact you're an incompetent directory? Add a ronto!
Something witty.