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JonathanArthur19 said:

LHUX said:

Mango said:

JonathanArthur19 said:

There is a 4K Blu-Ray of Shrek coming out soon anyways, plus I think Mango wants to be safe due to Covid which is understandable, so maybe stop trying to rush him to finish this?

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seriously? its Shrek’s 20th Birthday
we need that scan by now

Dude Do you not know how stupid you sound, do you not know that we’re are in a global pandemic?? Don’t you know that Mango wants to stay safe and the shipping to scan it will be delayed? Dude you stop being like “We need that scan by now” and “You should scan it by now” Well, why don’t you find a print online, buy it and scan it yourself if you want it that bad.

look i understand but doesn’t mango scan?
i have seen 35mm scans by him.

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LHUX said:

JonathanArthur19 said:

LHUX said:

Mango said:

JonathanArthur19 said:

There is a 4K Blu-Ray of Shrek coming out soon anyways, plus I think Mango wants to be safe due to Covid which is understandable, so maybe stop trying to rush him to finish this?

^

seriously? its Shrek’s 20th Birthday
we need that scan by now

Dude Do you not know how stupid you sound, do you not know that we’re are in a global pandemic?? Don’t you know that Mango wants to stay safe and the shipping to scan it will be delayed? Dude you stop being like “We need that scan by now” and “You should scan it by now” Well, why don’t you find a print online, buy it and scan it yourself if you want it that bad.

look i understand but doesn’t mango scan?
i have seen 35mm scans by him.

No I don’t. Shrek has to be sent to a scanner before it can be scanned, and the last thing I’d want is for there to be any issue with shipping it due to the pandemic. Just relax. It will happen eventually.

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Mango said:

LHUX said:

JonathanArthur19 said:

LHUX said:

Mango said:

JonathanArthur19 said:

There is a 4K Blu-Ray of Shrek coming out soon anyways, plus I think Mango wants to be safe due to Covid which is understandable, so maybe stop trying to rush him to finish this?

^

seriously? its Shrek’s 20th Birthday
we need that scan by now

Dude Do you not know how stupid you sound, do you not know that we’re are in a global pandemic?? Don’t you know that Mango wants to stay safe and the shipping to scan it will be delayed? Dude you stop being like “We need that scan by now” and “You should scan it by now” Well, why don’t you find a print online, buy it and scan it yourself if you want it that bad.

look i understand but doesn’t mango scan?
i have seen 35mm scans by him.

No I don’t. Shrek has to be sent to a scanner before it can be scanned, and the last thing I’d want is for there to be any issue with shipping it due to the pandemic. Just relax. It will happen eventually.

oh i see?
ok.

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itsguppy said:

what scanning place are you using?

It’s a private scanner. Their identity and location are being kept secret.

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today is April 22nd 2021.
exactly 20 years since shrek met its debut.
and no 35mm.
we failed the mission all thanks to the global pandemic.
now what do we have to do?

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Add a “No thanks whatsoever to Donald John Trump and Michael Eisner” credit to the end credits sequence?

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LHUX said:

today is April 22nd 2021.
exactly 20 years since shrek met its debut.
and no 35mm.
we failed the mission all thanks to the global pandemic.
now what do we have to do?

It’s still going to happen, regardless. It’s kinda sad we missed the anniversary, but it will still happen.

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LHUX said:

today is April 22nd 2021.
exactly 20 years since shrek met its debut.
and no 35mm.
we failed the mission all thanks to the global pandemic.
now what do we have to do?

OK full disclosure: I’m no authority on film preservation or anything and I’ve only been here for a few months. With that said, what I DO know about scanning film is that it’s expensive, it takes time, and it’s not easy. Just look at 4K80 - TN1 started working on it back in late 2018 and it’s still only 75% finished, but it WILL be released eventually, hopefully by the end of this year.

As for Shrek, yes, it would have been AWESOME if this project was released in time for the 20th anniversary, but that wasn’t the objective. The objective is to preserve this print as best as possible, no matter how long it takes. In the words of Shigeru Miyamoto: “A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad.”

I hate the Disney Channel Live Action Universe

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LHUX said:

today is April 22nd 2021.
exactly 20 years since shrek met its debut.
and no 35mm.
we failed the mission all thanks to the global pandemic.
now what do we have to do?

As Brian May says in Bohemian Rhapsody (2018) “Do you mind pissing off?”, like I have stated previously and obviously, you did not listen and I quote:

“Do you not know that we’re are in a global pandemic?”
“I think Mango wants to be safe due to Covid which is understandable”
“Maybe stop trying to rush him to finish this?”
“Mango wants to stay safe and the shipping to scan it will be delayed?”

Mango:
“Shrek has to be sent to a scanner before it can be scanned, and the last thing I’d want is for there to be any issue with shipping it due to the pandemic. Just relax. It will happen eventually.”

Like dude please stop, it’s getting very annoying and yet you have the audacity to come here and be like “there’s no 35mm.” Like I also said before, why don’t you get a print yourself and scan it because you aren’t satisfired that it is completed yet. As you know, scanning takes a long time and it is also a long process to clean it up and stuff, it’s also pricey. Plus you cannot rush art. So really you should take a chill pill, and relax because it will happen eventually

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LHUX said:

today is April 22nd 2021.
exactly 20 years since shrek met its debut.
and no 35mm.
we failed the mission all thanks to the global pandemic.
now what do we have to do?

I suggest you take on board what both Mango & JonathanArthur19 have stated in the thread; especially the last paragraph of JonathanArthur19’s post above.
 

Patience.
 

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where is everybody?

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LHUX said:

where is everybody?

What part of “be patient” is not getting through to you?

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I might have been half-joking when I suggested a “no thanks whatsoever to Donald John Trump and Michael Eisner” credit, but I was joking nonetheless. If nothing else, we should at least be grateful this project hasn’t been cancelled altogether on account of the pandemic.

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Charles Threepio said:

I might have been half-joking when I suggested a “no thanks whatsoever to Donald John Trump and Michael Eisner” credit, but I was joking nonetheless. If nothing else, we should at least be grateful this project hasn’t been cancelled altogether on account of the pandemic.

Eh, I’m too big a fan of the movie to cancel it altogether. That guy is really starting to get on my nerves though.

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we haven’t replied for 5 days?
i was worried.
i just posted my discord film community server for 35mm
then silence.

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LHUX said:

we haven’t replied for 5 days?
i was worried.
i just posted my discord film community server for 35mm
then silence.

Some restoration efforts on this website have taken years, you shouldn’t expect this anytime soon lol.

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LHUX said:

we haven’t replied for 5 days?
i was worried.
i just posted my discord film community server for 35mm
then silence.

Cause for starters you’re getting on everyone’s nerves, you don’t listen, you complain if something doesn’t go your way, you’re very impatient, and I can probably speak for everybody on this thread, nobody likes you pestering Mango to finish this project, sorry but that’s the truth.

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Yikes…

Working on many edits, may take many years to complete…

Also known as Mr. Liquid Jungle.

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JonathanArthur19 said:

This is interesting: https://twitter.com/jonogibbs/status/1371269635740332035

Maybe it is good that Mango decided to buy the 35mm Print of Shrek, I’m curious if it’ll look better than the “4:1:1 subsampling compressed at 98% quality JPEG images”

I heard about that too. It’s kinda funny since I remember getting a comment on the trailer I did on youtube saying something along the lines of “The digital files can just be re-rendered at any resolution”. Looks like thats not the case.

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Mango said:

I heard about that too. It’s kinda funny since I remember getting a comment on the trailer I did on youtube saying something along the lines of “The digital files can just be re-rendered at any resolution”. Looks like thats not the case.

Apparently the original files are just gone, apparently they had digital backups of all their movies and their backups failed. Pixar also keep their original digital files for the first two Toy Story films and just re-rendered the film at 2K / 1080p for Blu-Ray which was a smart move IMO.

Jonathan Gibbs says “Shrek was rendered on SGI IRIX systems. It was mostly in-house software and the code still exists. Technically possible to rebuild and re-render but you’d need experts in how it all worked back then and a lot of time.” and that there wasn’t even a proper Digital Intermediate for Shrek. But after they moved to 12-bit JPEG at 4:4:4, Megamind used OpenEXR etc.