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He's not being accurate about Pepsi. In 1998, Lucasfilm secured a very lucrative deal with Trimark (?), the parent company that owns Pepsi, Taco Bell, KFC and Pizza Hut. But that happens with every blockbuster. Like any tie-in related to the prequels in the late 1990s--Fox, Kenner, etc.--the company that got the job paid a handsome fee, thinking the films would be huge hits. Lucasfilm made a killing but the Pepsi parent company didn't make much, Kenner lost money, and I dunno about Fox, I think they were the only ones who benefited, but not that much.

Anyway, Lucas didn't make the films for Pepsi, but Pepsi sure did pay him a lot of money once he did.

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So the 130 Million he personally  put up for menace would not hurt as much with merchandising involved?

Even Peter Jackson who calls himself an independent needed studio backing for lord of the rings.  Lucas funding the prequels for whatever the total cost before gross profits is pretty much unheard of as far as i know.

This is why he had to keep costs down, use cgi and do them cheap, and streamline the process so he used Video on clones and sith instead of film.

I am sure in the beginning it costs more but as he went along he would save in the long run?

 

We know he had fox put up the money for the 1997 special edition restoration, the prints and distribution costs handled by them.  they gave Star Wars copyright back to Lucas too all in exchange for the right to distribute the prequel trilogy,  the last part never confirmed but certain.

 

I can sort of see Lucas thinking on Clones and Sith, let skip a step instead of digitizing the film and then editing it digitally, since the final product is going to be digital anyways before printing back to film, if not projected DLP, then why not skip the whole film process altogether.

Though i am personally against the use of digital instead of 35mm i think digital looks like video.

I did not feel any different with Avatar either.

I will wait to see P.J.'s Hobbit before i make my review of the red digital epic camera capable of 5k resolution.  Better than film.  But does not mean without the grain structure its going to be as nice as film looks to me at least in terms of aesthetics.

 

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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Yeah, in some ways Lucas was taking a legit risk by putting all the money up front. Also, they started preproduction in 1995, at the time the Star Wars profit machine was just starting to get up to gear, so Lucas wasn't worth as much as he was by the time the film came out. And that was before the SE too--no one knew how huge the rennaissance would get. But at that time, Lucas was wanting to make the first film for $70 million. By the time they got to filming in 1997, they realized they were making a $115 million movie, but they let that happen because they saw that there was so much demand that it would recoup the cost easily regardless of the quality of the product, so they no longer had to worry too much about the budget as long as it didn't turn into ESB again, because then Lucas might not have actually had the money to pay for it (e.g., ESB went from something like $20 million to $32 million, sort of equivalent to if TPM started filming on a $115 million budget but came in at $200). 

Once the dust settled from Episode I they were perfectly fine, they could have financed two films at once after that because they had all the tie-in deals and their share of the gross was ridiculous (I think Fox only got something like 20%? Maybe less?). It was pretty clear from 1997 onward that Lucasfilm wasn't going to have any financial problem for the rest of at least George Lucas' life, but I think those first few years must have looked a bit daunting. It's sort of like what happened with ESB, after it came out they were fine, but until that happened they had basically allocated every last penny to making it all work because he was building Skywalker Ranch at the same time.

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I wonder why there were no KFC-Taco Bell-Pizza Hut Star Wars campaigns when AOTC & ROTS were doing their rounds.

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They lost money and didn't want to do it again. I think also LFL felt that the integrity of their product (e.g. the movie) was harmed by so much ridiculous levels of marketing exposure.

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zombie84 wrote: I think also LFL felt that the integrity of their product (e.g. the movie) was harmed by so much ridiculous levels of marketing exposure.

Wait are you trying to tell me that a national broadcast of a documentary on the making of a commercial        was a bad idea?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJLuwfOaT6A

This is a little documentary on Star Wars Episode one and Pepsi which aired on tv in 1999. The Marphalump is a alien character who is crazy about Star Wars.

 

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New update with BD reaction/media links, plus a personal editorial on the subject.

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Right now all the news links points to the top of the page, so people have to scroll to get to the earlier dates.  You can have the links point to certain spots in that page.

http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_links.asp

(they use <a name="name"> but I think this is being phased out of HTML5, so the below should work)

You set the spots by setting up a 'span' with an 'id' name.  I've used the date and a key word, so you can remember what it was.

<span id="20110605Spielberg">June 5, 2011: Steven Spielberg Vows Never to Digitally Alter Old Films, Says Lucas Can't "Let Sleeping Dogs Lie"</span>

or

<span id="20110605Spielberg">June 5, 2011</span>: Steven Spielberg Vows Never to Digitally Alter Old Films, Says Lucas Can't "Let Sleeping Dogs Lie"

 

then your link from the main page would look like this:

<a href="http://savestarwars.com/news.html#20110605Spielberg">

Try one, if it works great, otherwise i'll figure out what's missing.

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Good idea, I have been meaning to do that lately actually, I've just been lazy. :p

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Personally, I think the 'Widespread Condemnation' is premature.  Only three days in.  Can these, critical of the changes, type of comments compete with people glowing about the glories of HD quality.  'They've never looked better.'  Is going to be in every review.  (we'll see if they acknowledge the deliberate creative decisions)

A lot is going to happen in the next two weeks, a MPAA quote about the dimming of movie magic by pirates and a GL quote about how the critics never really got SW, are two I think will show up.  Plus the appreciation of the Deleted Scenes/special features will erode some of the criticism of constant changes to the films themselves.

 

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The quality I've seen working with screenshots from a 720p copy are incredible, yes. The quality of the colors and content are still bad. ;-)

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I love having a site we can point people to to explain what our issues are! Thank you so much, Zombie!

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This site talked about a quote which might be good:

http://www.primaryignition.com/2011/09/04/blatant-insubordination-blaster-control/

During the promotion for Revenge of the Sith, prequel trilogy producer Rick McCallum said something to the effect of: “I’m convinced there won’t be a definitive version of Star Wars until George [Lucas] dies.” I remember thinking that was a bit harsh. But you know what? He’s probably right. Heck, if you’ve got the Revenge of the Sith DVD, watch his commentary on the deleted scene where Yoda arrives on Dagobah. He makes a comment about George “tinkering away” on future versions of Star Wars. Because George Lucas, among many other things, is a tinkerer.

 

Found the full quote in this article:

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,1041491,00.html

The Next Dimension
George Lucas plans 3-D versions of all six ''Star Wars'' movies -- First converted film will come out in 2007
Mar 28, 2005

''I am convinced that there will never be a definitive edition of Star Wars until George dies — he will keep tinkering right up until the very end,'' says series producer Rick McCallum. ''It's a nightmare I had many months ago: I'll wake up at 80 years old in my wheelchair with George and his daughter calling me saying, 'Rick, we're looking for the sound elements from Episode II. Can you come up to the ranch?' And I woke up in a cold sweat.''

 

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As harsh as what McCallum says, it's probably true. Lucas will never be satisfied, unless of course he decided to just abandon the originals then remake them... Pretty soon things will be added to Episodes II and III. I'm actually surprised that McCallum would say that publicly but not challenge Lucas on some things about the PT.

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Well, McCallum was a nobody before hooking up with George, and has no career outside of SW, so he'll never truly bite the hand that feeds him...but every now and again he'll say something very candid.  I also liked when he bitched about how long it was taking George to finish the script for AOTC.  If a Smithers-esque yes-man is publicly making these kinds of comments, there must be a lot of people at LFL who are quite tired of George.

That’s impossible, even for a computer.

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Poor George.

Star Wars became the biggest thing ever and he just couldn't handle it.

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In another thread came up the discussion is/was SW for kids/adults:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-original-ending-of-Ponda-Baba/post/532219/#TopicPost532219

and zombie84 mentioned how the PG ratings were changed, which is one sign of them attempting to appeal to both audiences.

Here's another example of appealing to both:

http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20399642_20511617,00.html#20990635

'Star Wars': Comic-Con '76 pics!

In the photos is a one page which starts with the following quote:

[Star Wars letterhead]

"I have wrought my simple plan

If I give one hour of joy

To the boy who's half a man,

Or the man who's half a boy."

--Arthur Conan Doyle's preface to "The Lost World"

 

and this might be the oldest reference photo of SW out in the wild:  (but looks like a still not part of the film...)

 

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I literally just read all that text out loud to myself (and had a blast doing it). Has that photo of Leia been seen anywhere else? It doesn't look familiar to me.

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That was before his big plan was to destroy the childhood memories of millions by erasing the original versions from existence.

He has been doing that in earnest since the mid 1990's but we did not find out his true intent until after 1995.  When the originals were not available from 1995- until 2006.  And them being on the dvd set was Jim Ward's idea and came out of marketing it had nothing to do with Lucas changing his mind.

If anyone thought otherwise Lynn Hale's statement makes Lucas stance very clear.

The fact that the bonus discs have been allowed to fall out of print speaks volumes.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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None--that McCallum quote about Lucas tinkering till he dies is a good one. I'll make a mental note of it for inclusion in future articles or any previous ones I want to update. I guess my "Can't Get the SE Right" article will be in need of updating some time soon, maybe I can sneak it in there.

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'Star Wars': Comic-Con '76 pics!

<img src="http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2011/07/19/Star-Wars-1976-summary_523.jpg" width="523" height="610" />

 

and this might be the oldest reference photo of SW out in the wild:  (but looks like a still not part of the film...)

<img src="http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2011/07/19/Star-Wars-1976-comic-con_610.jpg" width="610" height="458" />

 


No collection of comic-con '76 pics is complete without this one:
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb174/dubbl-t/hamill1976.jpg

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Right now all the news links points to the top of the page, so people have to scroll to get to the earlier dates.  You can have the links point to certain spots in that page.

http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_links.asp

(they use but I think this is being phased out of HTML5, so the below should work)

You set the spots by setting up a 'span' with an 'id' name.  I've used the date and a key word, so you can remember what it was.

June 5, 2011: Steven Spielberg Vows Never to Digitally Alter Old Films, Says Lucas Can't "Let Sleeping Dogs Lie"

or

June 5, 2011: Steven Spielberg Vows Never to Digitally Alter Old Films, Says Lucas Can't "Let Sleeping Dogs Lie"


then your link from the main page would look like this:

Try one, if it works great, otherwise i'll figure out what's missing.


Hmm, I've been trying this out tonight, but it doesn't seem to be working? Any thoughts?

For those keeping up, there is a few updates with the Phil Tippett interview, miscellaneous media links, the facebook boycott page, and Lucas telling fans to piss off about the original versions.