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So, I looked in my email inbox and there was an email from google reporting this. I have requested a review to get it removed, hopefully will be gone in a day or two.
So, I looked in my email inbox and there was an email from google reporting this. I have requested a review to get it removed, hopefully will be gone in a day or two.
Reading one of your articles and came across this;
The Film Integrity Act of 1987 had attempted to amend the Copyright Act to provide moral rights to prevent unauthorized recolorization. It stated that the principle director and screenwriter, whom it defined as the authors, needed to consent to the process. Filmmakers from Jimmy Stuart to John Houston gave advisory testimony
Shouldn't that be Jimmy Stewart and John Huston?
none said:
doubleofive brings up in the '35 years of ILM' thread, another issue maybe worth having a page toward. The idea that articles, books, documentaries praise the advancements in technology the OT made, but then they show a picture from the SE. Having a page of these circumstances could be a convincing way to show how LFL is attempting to subvert the originals.
Not just attempting - succeeding. That CNET piece is a perfect example of it.
It will take diligence on our part and the work of people like Kaminski to get the truth revealed.
none said:
The idea that articles, books, documentaries praise the advancements in technology the OT made, but then they show a picture from the SE.
The reverse can be even more poignant. The Don and Mike show (radio) once was discussing how primitive the effects were back in 1977. They used the Jabba scene as their example!
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wasn't that one of the criticisms of the Making of SW book, that movie photos were from the SE, but not notated as such? ...i'm probably confusing books...
That's just ignorance, plain and simple. If it was an official Lucasfilm employee, then it'd be a different matter.Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
none said:The reverse can be even more poignant. The Don and Mike show (radio) once was discussing how primitive the effects were back in 1977. They used the Jabba scene as their example!
The idea that articles, books, documentaries praise the advancements in technology the OT made, but then they show a picture from the SE.
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Actually, I would say a Lucas employee would never say that, since I think Puggo was suggesting it was an unintended shot at the SE--the Jabba CG is so bad people thought it was from the 70s.
Actually it was pure ignorance. They thought it was a scene from the original 1977 release, and chose it as the clearest example of why the effects back then were poor by today's standards. To me, it is just more evidence of the degree to which the additions lessened the quality of the films.
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I've heard people insist, with total confidence, that every shot in the special edition is new and that's because in the original they just held the ships up with wires, like an Ed Wood movie. And then you have a whole other breed who don't know that anything has been done to it, and still think it looks crude next to the new ones.
I weep for ignorance.Baronlando said:
I've heard people insist, with total confidence, that every shot in the special edition is new and that's because in the original they just held the ships up with wires, like an Ed Wood movie. And then you have a whole other breed who don't know that anything has been done to it, and still think it looks crude next to the new ones.
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Is there anything here you could use?
Anchorhead: Thanks for the correction; page has been updated. And thanks for the praise. I have to say, the feeling is mutual: reading your posts and interacting with you the last few years has given me an invaluable insight into the films that I doubt I would have otherwise. You are a rare breed of fan that most people my age don't get access to, and it sort of saddens me to think of the loss that people will have when they don't have first-hand access to people that have been around since 1977 but didn't keep up with the Lucasfilm machine.
005: I decided to post news on the CNET article, so thanks for bringing that to everyones attention. I will also be updating the SE page soon with your newer screenshot efforts.
None: As far as I remember, Rinzler's recent SW book was frighteningly accurate about portraying the films as they were, instead of how Lucas today wishes they were. Not 100% of course, there are a few inaccuracies, but in any book that size there will be.
Zombie, I'm not sure if it's been brought up here at the boards yet, but there's an interview up at thedigitalbits with the answer to your question about the Apocalypse Now BD.
http://thedigitalbits.com/articles/apocalypse/interview01.html
Basically they scanned the 2001 IP (The Redux IP), restored and color-corrected it and, for the '79 version, simply conformed it to that edit. Since it's a relatively simple difference in edits, both versions are seamlessly branched onto a single disc. I expect that BD-50 to be packed to the brim!
Baronlando said:
I've heard people insist, with total confidence, that every shot in the special edition is new and that's because in the original they just held the ships up with wires, like an Ed Wood movie.
What an awful comparison.
Baronlando said:
I've heard people insist, with total confidence, that every shot in the special edition is new and that's because in the original they just held the ships up with wires, like an Ed Wood movie. And then you have a whole other breed who don't know that anything has been done to it, and still think it looks crude next to the new ones.
I think the standard response to such nonsense should be....
Thanks Bingo, I was finally able to get to sleep last night and now it's back to no sleep....
btw stupid question but is that Gene Wilder?
btw stupid question but is that Gene Wilder?
Donald Sutherland from the 78's remake of 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers'.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077745/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_the_Body_Snatchers_(1978_film)
I always thought it was from Monty Python. Seriously.none said:
btw stupid question but is that Gene Wilder?Donald Sutherland from the 78's remake of 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers'.
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thanks none :)
Bingowings said:
Going with the idea of the dishonesty/ignorance behind the CNET article, here's another example. The Science Channel had a program last year called "The Science of the Movies". In the first episode they interview John Dykstra about motion-control technology. One of the opening quotes goes like this:
It's a technology which allows filmmakers to do the seemingly impossible. Turn tiny models into colossal spaceships.
and they cut to the SE Death Star approach shot.
So what I figure could be done is we can take these kind of shows and insert the original shot, so people can see the difference. I've taken this programs opening segment and inserted the OT shot, let me know what you all think.
http://noneinc.com/SSW/SotM-002-half_h264/ SotM-002-half_h264-desktop.m4v (8 min. 57 mb)
This version uses the whole segment, but probably it's best to severly cut out the extraneous, so this can probably be whittled down to 2-4 minutes. Used the Wookiegroomer Splits for the additional clip source.
Reminds me of one of my film school textbooks where they talk about the genius that was ILM in 1977. Then they had a picture of the saturated 2004 and I had to explain to the professor that it was a completely new shot done for the third release.
They didn't want to believe me so I had to to go and bring in a comparison.
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zombie84 said:
Anchorhead: ....thanks for the praise. I have to say, the feeling is mutual: reading your posts and interacting with you the last few years has given me an invaluable insight into the films that I doubt I would have otherwise. You are a rare breed of fan that most people my age don't get access to, and it sort of saddens me to think of the loss that people will have when they don't have first-hand access to people that have been around since 1977 but didn't keep up with the Lucasfilm machine.
Right back at you, man. I honestly believe it's the work of people like you and some of the members here who got us the 2006 DVD of the theatrical version - the only Star Wars DVD I own, or want to own.
I also think that same tenacity will eventually get us a proper release, although it will probably be many years from now. Lucas really digs his heels in when he's pushed, so it's not going to be easy. Until then, I'll help you guys fight the good fight by promoting your site, your book, and this site whenever I can.
I'm certainly grateful for having been around in 1977 and being part of the Summer Of Star Wars. I'm also glad I was old enough to really appreciate it and participate in it. It was a heady time indeed. I saw it every week, had the soundtrack, the poster that came with it, the one-sheet, the lobby cards, magazines, etc. I lived it.
That said: The truth is, it was all luck of the draw. We get here whenever we get here. So while I got to be part of the Star Wars phenomenon of 1977 - I'm also going to turn 50 before most of you. That can be a sobering thought.
As for being a fan of only one of the films and not following the Lucasfilm machine (great term for it, by the way), well - 1977 was a very tough act to follow.
Besides, you guys keep me young.
;-)
Anchorhead's post gave me warm fuzzy feelings. :-D
On another note, msycamore reports that its looks like the wipes and fades are the same from 1997 to 2004. They must have just started all but one of the new optical wipes early for whatever reason.
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