SW Episode III - Reign of the Dark Side (* unfinished project *) — Page 43

Palpatine could just call to Anakin like Luke calls to Leia in ESB and he comes to the rescue and stops a Jedi Rebellion just in the nick of time.

The dialogue about Palpatine confessing to being a Sith could take place after Anakin has aided Palpatine in killing Windu.

By then there would be so much blood on his hands and confusion in his mind it would be too late to turn back especially if Palpatine throws the line in about knowing how to save Padme at that point.

You could even have Palpatine trying to fix his good guy mask (but his over use of the darkside means that the wind has changed and he is stuck with his real face).

It's good to hear you intend to test out the idea, Bob. The weakest part[s] of the story may just yet become the most interesting. People actiing on realistic motives without stopping to yammer exposition at each other every two minutes.

Bob, another idea:

In order to keep makin Anakin more independent, even from Palpatine... after the opera scen when palps suggests anakin to lead the mission to kill grievous... why don't you make him not to say a thing of Palpatine suggestion to the council... like he already knows he won't be sent.

So you'd be constructing a character that swallows all this advises, and then he finally explodes in the pshyco Vader is, instead of having him being a puppet of Palpatine.

Of course, with this you'd make Anakin more independent, but what's more, it'd make Palpatine's mechanism more subtle. I mean, the smarter the guy you twist his mind is, the smarter you gotta be to do it.

Even if I agree with angel that Utapau's palette should be reduced, I have to say I'd rather prefer a more chromatic palette, a more blueish PT style...

http://img844.imageshack.us/i/grayi.jpg/

So I was watching ABdirector's  Alternative Ending of ROTJ -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTYYzwf2anA - and I was thinking:

at the begining, those flying asteroids (or whateverthefudge they are) that are flying in the viewer's face - they look pretty cool, don't they?

How possible would it be to incorporate something like that in the ROTDS' crawl?

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the original - it's awesome. But if Bob is thinking about changing/altering the opening crawl  - then maybe this can give him some kind of inspiration.

I just like the idea of trying to create a feeling of flying/traveling forward into another universe. That kind of fits with the opening " A long time a go in a galaxy far, far away... " line. There's this line and then BAM! ... STAR WARS!!! ... and we're moving forward, all excited and stuff. XD

I think bobgarcia has either run out of creative energy or has become bored with the project. It's too bad since most of his reworkings were the best I've seen.

Hamza said:

I think bobgarcia has either run out of creative energy or has become bored with the project. It's too bad since most of his reworkings were the best I've seen.

Why do you say that? He only wrote his last post 14 days ago.

Hamza said:

I think bobgarcia has either run out of creative energy or has become bored with the project. It's too bad since most of his reworkings were the best I've seen.

Dude, come on. Taking a break is not a bad thing. It's like drawing. You can't draw 4 hours straight - you'll mess something up.

Draw for 2 hours, take a break and come back fresh. :) It's better that way.

haraldo23 said:

Hamza said:

I think bobgarcia has either run out of creative energy or has become bored with the project. It's too bad since most of his reworkings were the best I've seen.

Dude, come on. Taking a break is not a bad thing. It's like drawing. You can't draw 4 hours straight - you'll mess something up.

Draw for 2 hours, take a break and come back fresh. :) It's better that way.

Exactly. If you spend all your time doing something you're gonna get tired and lose passion for it. That's why I've been taking a break from my own edit, but sort of getting back into it now.

brash_stryker said:

Exactly. If you spend all your time doing something you're gonna get tired and lose passion for it. That's why I've been taking a break from my own edit, but sort of getting back into it now.

Yeah, I was about to ask you what's up. XD I hope everything's fine and you'll keep working on it. 

Yes, keep your focus on your family. They are infinitely more important than us starwars nerds :)

Ok, I'm back with another suggestion. It's more of a question actually -

Why are Sith Eyes bad?

Aside form the fact that they weren't in The Original Trilogy and that in most cases it's used as a gimmick - why do we hate them?

They could actually serve the plot! They may be of some use. I was reading haljordan's post* about Why He Hates Prequels and - while I understand he's kind of a weirdo - he made a pretty good point -

... in the 80s lucas always said  anakin  was seducded  to the dark side through no fault of his own.  like a person who tries drugs.  they try it and then they become seducded by it because it is too powerful for them to handle or control. in the original return of the jedi script   ben tells luke  that "as a part of a jedis training he must confront and then  move past the dark side of the force and that anakin  when he confronted the dark side  became seduced by it because he thought he was strong enough to control it and in the end as with drugs it was too powerful for him to control and it took him over"  hence when vader would always go around saying  "if you only knew the power of the dark side"

If we go by this logic then in this scene, for example - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwpTE1ckgEs - Sith Eyes work every well. He becomes angry and lets the Dark Side take over - he just cannot control it. He's at a point where most of us would be pissed and vulnerable [for anger to take over].

And those Sith Eyes really help us imagine that there's some powerful force controlling Anakin.

What do you think?

* http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Here-is-my-reason-for-hating-the-prequels-some-have-said-i-hate-for-no-reason-here-is-why-I-hate-it/topic/12228/

Well, it's good to read you haraldo, cause I was thinking last night about this dark side thing, and it came to my mind somehow, Yoda repeating the phrase (EPII, I think) "the dark side clouds everything"... so, I just wandered that it could be possible that, in a certain way (being consistent with my idea of making EPIII more confusing about the Jedi's role in the Republic), the dark side, or even the Force, could be an implicit character with a will of his own, just like the ring in LOTR.

So, as the dark side "clouds everything", it makes the Jedi act wrong (or at least in a suspicious way) trying to overthrow Palpatine even if it they don't have that faculty. So the dark side, or the force, is making up a mess of everything, EVEN the Jedi Order.In this context, having Anakin trying to act on his own benefit (like I said before, making him go to Padme's instead of going straight to Windu) would be even more realistic.

This could even give a little more meaning to the prophecy stuff, since the Force and Anakin would be their real protagonists. And the movie would go on making us doubt about who's right and who's wrong even till a critical point, to then, very near the end make the watcher realize that the Sith, the bad guys have taken over

I think this was quite the original idea for the film but... it's lucas you know. So, I can't even say what needs to be done to get that feeling of what I'm talking, nor I know if Bob likes this idea, though it would be great to polish it up into something more concrete than what I posted (I mean, actual suggestion of concrete changes/corrections).

Sorry for the large post

Interesting. Very interesting.

By the way, making Anakin go to Padme's instead of going straight to Windu is one of the best ideas ever. Well, at least it sounds like a great idea. And I really hope that there's a way to make it work/happen.

bobgarcia74 said:

Dusted off my old hard drive tonight. This was a old edit clip that I did Right before starting on Episode

3. It's not perfect story and cut wise. But helps to make Obi look alittle more reckless, and cut alot of

flipping and jumping around during the saber fight. Enjoy.

More Episode 3 clips will be coming soon 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsC9__pahqE

Duuuuuude! So unexpected! I don't know how I never thought of this before... This is truly awesome! It's, like.... damn, it's awesome! XD

It makes the whole scene just perfect! He's pissed off, the gates open, they go bam, bam, bam... and then slash! - he has taken his revenge!

This way it doesn't slow down - the scene flows perfectly!

Obi-Wan is a total badass and Darth Maul doesn't go out like a punk. Strengthens both characters.  Genius!

One thing though - how about slowing it down a little bit? Not much, but just a tad slower. I'm not saying that these fight scenes should mach the OT (speed wise), but sometimes they tend to go too fast.