SUPERMAN RETURNS REVIEW — Page 12

Author: Darth Richard
Time: 7-Sep-2006 11:10 PM
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Originally posted by: theredbaron
Does anyone now if it will be possible to obtain the Donner Cut on its own? I don't wanna get III and IV!

yes it will be sold seperately.

Author: theredbaron
Time: 7-Sep-2006 11:29 PM
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Originally posted by: Darth Richard

Originally posted by: theredbaron
Does anyone now if it will be possible to obtain the Donner Cut on its own? I don't wanna get III and IV!

yes it will be sold seperately.

Thank the Maker!

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Author: Darth Richard
Time: 7-Sep-2006 11:35 PM
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it looks so good too

I've never seen Superman 2 before, and now with the proper version coming out I doubt I'll ever watch the original.

Author: theredbaron
Time: 8-Sep-2006 12:24 AM
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Originally posted by: Darth Richard
it looks so good too

I've never seen Superman 2 before, and now with the proper version coming out I doubt I'll ever watch the original.

Superman II is still pretty decent as is, but you can tell that Donner just isn't there for the latter half of the movie.

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Author: Mike O
Time: 9-Sep-2006 12:10 AM
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Originally posted by: theredbaron
Does anyone now if it will be possible to obtain the Donner Cut on its own? I don't wanna get III and IV!

The Donner Cut won't even be in the boxed set, according to The Digital Bits (and yes, I know Mr. Sylvester's feelings about Mr. Hunt).

I was afraid that they'd pull a Robocop and make the good version available only in the boxed set so that diehards like me would buy it.

And let us not forget that the first two films wil also include remasters of the masterful Fleisher Superman shorts.

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

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Author: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
Time: 9-Sep-2006 2:54 PM
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Originally posted by: Mike O

Originally posted by: theredbaron
Does anyone now if it will be possible to obtain the Donner Cut on its own? I don't wanna get III and IV!

I thought they were making yet another definitive DVD collection of the Max Fleischer Superman shorts.

Speakin of which - Max Fleishcer Superman VS. Bruce Timm Superman, which do you prefer?

I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an Obi-Wan to go.

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Author: Darth Chaltab
Time: 9-Sep-2006 3:52 PM
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Anmation wise I prefer the Fleischer cartoons.

Story wise, Bruce Timm's.

I think of them as the Kal-L and Kal-El of the Animation World.

Author: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
Time: 10-Sep-2006 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Anmation wise I prefer the Fleischer cartoons.

Really? Intriguing...

I probably ranted about this before, but I always thought that the animation of the Bruce Timm Superman was a step down from their animation on the first Batman series (1992-1995). I thought their Superman looked too much like a block figure, and for some reason it annoyed the Hell out of me that his eyes were nothing but black dots. But storywise, Timm's series was as good as it could get.

I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an Obi-Wan to go.

Red heads ROCK. Blondes do not rock. Nuff said.

Author: Darth Chaltab
Time: 11-Sep-2006 12:01 AM
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Exaclty. The Fliesher cartoons are so impressive in animation just because of the era they were made in. When most cartoons were super-simplified anthro-animals, these cartoons had human beings that moved like real people. The stories were nothing to write home about, but the animation is good enough that it doesn't matter.

The Bruce Timm cartoons are from a different era. The animation is not bad, but it was a step down from B:TAS, which set the standard so ridiculously high. Superman's design was pretty good, but the lack of a Gold Emblem on the cape and the dots for eyes hurt it. Still, it looks enough like the Fliescher cartoons that you could concievably see them as hapening in the same general section of the Multiverse.

Technically, I think of the Fliescher cartoons Superman as Kal-L, the Filmation/Superfriends cartoons as Kal-El, and the Superman of S:TAS as Post-Crisis animated Superman. (After all, Superfriends ended in 1985, same year Crisis happened)

Author: Mike O
Time: 12-Sep-2006 11:47 AM
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70+ years later, the Fleisher shorts hold up just as well as anything made today, and are often better. Their influence on Japanese anime as a whole is even clear.

Timm's Supes, though, was an excellent character, and seems to be what Singer was attemping to do with SR. "The Late Mr. Kent," for example, explores Superman's dual identity superbly.

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death

Author: Darth Chaltab
Time: 12-Sep-2006 1:35 PM
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I needs to buy me some of those box sets.

Author: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
Time: 12-Sep-2006 2:02 PM
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
I needs to buy me some of those box sets.

Yes you do.

Should we make this General Superman Discussion thread?

I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an Obi-Wan to go.

Red heads ROCK. Blondes do not rock. Nuff said.

Author: Darth Chaltab
Time: 16-Sep-2006 2:57 AM
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Anyone annoyed by Superman's kid in "Superman Returns" might want to read this!!

Words do not suffice.

Author: Mike O
Time: 17-Sep-2006 12:09 PM
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Ever been to superdickery.com? It's funny stuff.

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death

Author: ADigitalMan
Time: 17-Sep-2006 4:29 PM
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Anyone annoyed by Superman's kid in "Superman Returns" might want to read this!!

Words do not suffice.

So not only is Peter Griffin a rip-off of Homer, apparently Stewie is a rip off of Superman's Kid. Right down to the lobe head.

I am fluent in over six million forms of procrastination.

Author: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
Time: 18-Sep-2006 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Anyone annoyed by Superman's kid in "Superman Returns" might want to read this!!

Words do not suffice.

Eeh-Gad!

I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an Obi-Wan to go.

Red heads ROCK. Blondes do not rock. Nuff said.

Author: Darth Richard
Time: 21-Sep-2006 8:32 PM
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The 14 disc Superman set was just annouced on The Digital Bits

Originally posted by: Bill Hunt from The Digital Bits
As fans have been hoping, Warner has also officially announced the release of the 14-disc Superman: The Ultimate Collector's Edition DVD box set (SRP $99.92). Packaged in a special tin case, the set will include the 2-disc Superman Returns: Special Edition, the 4-disc Superman: The Movie - Special Edition, the 2-disc Superman II: Special Edition, the single-disc Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut, the single-disc Superman III and Superman IV DVDs, the You Will Believe: The Cinematic Saga of Superman documentary, the previously-released Look Up in the Sky! The Amazing Story of Superman and a Bryan Singer's Journals Extended Edition disc featuring all of the director's video web-logs shot on the set of Superman Returns. The case will also include a reproduction of the Superman #7 comic book, a booklet on the history of the character and a mail-in offer for all 5 Superman feature film movie posters. Here's a look at the box set's contents, all laid out for you to see...

Here's the pictures :

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http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a349/moonwalker723/superman14disctinopen.jpg

Hey does anyone know if the releases for the Superman I-IV are new transfers or the '01 transfers?

Author: Rebel1one1
Time: 21-Sep-2006 8:50 PM
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As far as I know they are all new masters. Superman The Movie is going to include the 2001 version and the theatrical cut. I like superman cinema nice site. Caped Wonder is good too.

Author: Mike O
Time: 21-Sep-2006 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by: Mike O
Ever been to superdickery.com? It's funny stuff.

Again, I must ask...

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death

Author: Mike O
Time: 3-Oct-2006 3:13 PM
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So, sequel? Any word?

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death

Author: Darth Richard
Time: 3-Oct-2006 7:11 PM
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Ya it will come out in '08

Author: ADigitalMan
Time: 4-Oct-2006 12:24 AM
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I'm hearing '09. Big movie without a script yet ... it'll take a while to get it prepped, shot, and ready.

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Author: Mike O
Time: 4-Oct-2006 12:25 AM
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A trilogy, no doubt.

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death

Author: ADigitalMan
Time: 4-Oct-2006 1:30 AM
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In many respects, it already is a trilogy. S:TM, SII and SR. III and IV are merely incidental.

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Author: TheCassidy
Time: 4-Oct-2006 4:36 AM
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With any luck we'll get a giant robot spider.