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Monroville said:

 

I would have the Imperial SDs resemble Sith battle cruisers.  I say make the Jedi and the Sith actual forces to be reckoned with, and the Empire was created as a means of wiping out ALL religion.  Being that the Empire is a good mix of the Nazis, Communist Russia and colonial British Empire, one of the goals of the first 2 groups was to eradicate religion as they believed it to be the source of all bad things.  If it is shown just how ravaged the Republic becomes due to the constant crusades and jihads the Jedi and Sith declare on each other (with everyone else left in between) I could easily see how the masses could elect the 3rd party candidate so to speak (in the form of a General Palpatine) who then becomes the first Caesar.

In regards to the Mandalorians, one could make them more like the Templars than pirates - they are hired to do specific jobs, which may or may not mean assasination, stealing or whatnot.  I would keep them low in number (like 10 or 12) and give each unique battle armor.

So glad to see someone is still playing!

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Palpatine's rise to power as a general as opposed to as a politician is BRILLIANT. It makes him more interesting and vital, eliminates the need for complicated politics in`the plots, and is a nice 180* turn from the actual PT. ALso, he can be one old, grizzled, ugly warlord type, eliminating the need for any 'Sith deformities' to explain how damn ugly he is.

Although having the Jedi/Sith conflict as bad as you imply makes Palpy almost a good guy, which is some morally murky water. There are interesting plot points in making the Jedi morrally questionable, but that might be taking it a bit far if we plan to have them as heroes. Also, if we have Jedi and Sith, having the Madalorians as another class of super-warrior might get crowded. I'd rather keep the Super Mandalorians as you describe and just cut the Sith alltogether.

Having read the excellent SECRET HISTORY OF STAR WARS I am more enthused than ever to include as many names and ideas from the original treatments into the NPT as possible. Episode II might involve the Kiber Crystal, and somebody needs to be named CJ Thorpe.

 

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Hey Chainsaw,

I see you are working on some editing.

I guess that means you've moved on from the New Ep1 script.

Sigh....

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I was thinking about The Omen remake yesterday (long story) and I thought it would have been a worthy undertaking if they dropped the whole Damien actually being the Antichrist from the story. So instead there was just this little innocent kid that one bunch of religious nutjobs think is the antichrist and want to worship and another think he is the antichrist and want to destroy him, with an increasingly paranoid adoptive father stuck in the middle of this (the evil being the people around the child not the child himself). All the deaths could be accidents or deliberate murders.

He could then grow up to become the thing everyone said he is because everyone said he was the thing he would one day grow up to be.

This could could be extended into the Star Wars prequels, you have one bunch of force wielding warriors who support the Republic despite it faults and another who think the Republic is beyond saving and want a start from scratch despite the chaos it would cause. To each other the other side would be seen as evil. The evil would come from what they do to maintain their point of view rather than there actually being one group who are evil and another who are good.

You get hints of this in the PT as we saw it but it's never really followed up (it more of a ploy used by the already evil Palpatine to get the already twisted Anakin to drop the pretense and put on the black hat).

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I'm still working on it, I just hit a bit of writer's block and needed a short break.  I'm already 3/4 of the way done with my Star Wars edit (and can't work on ESB until Ady's done with ESB:R), and once I've finished with that it's right back to the Ep. 1 script.

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ChainsawAsh said:

I'm still working on it, I just hit a bit of writer's block and needed a short break.  I'm already 3/4 of the way done with my Star Wars edit (and can't work on ESB until Ady's done with ESB:R), and once I've finished with that it's right back to the Ep. 1 script.

 

That's cool.

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It's been so long... I think I need to re-read the thread to remember all that was discussed.... Has anyone decided what animation format this should be in? I hope we would find something that wasn't laughable.. Surely there is someone who can do a little CG animation. I'm sure I have no clue what I'm suggesting when I say that... But I am curious.

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mrbenja0618 said:

It's been so long... I think I need to re-read the thread to remember all that was discussed.... Has anyone decided what animation format this should be in? I hope we would find something that wasn't laughable.. Surely there is someone who can do a little CG animation. I'm sure I have no clue what I'm suggesting when I say that... But I am curious.

I read the whole thread today, and liked many of the various ideas presented. I don't have ideas of my own (I have a pretty poor imagination) but a point that has been talked about is the characterizations, with recent thoughts about Palpy. What about Anakin? It was previously suggested he should have J. E. Jones' speech patterns and overall OT Vader "attitude". I like it a lot, let's get rid of the "whiny kid", and have a character that, before turning to the dark side, is pretty much like Vader-only a good guy. A clever, sharp, daredevil pilot with slight anger issues. But a nice guy overall.

I wouldn't go for CG animation, it just doesn't sound right to me. I'd like to see some nice 2d animation (even if done with computers, so technically it still is Computer Generated Imagery); about the style... Return of the Jedi came out in 1983.. let's pretend these new animated prequels came out shortly after, let's say late 80's/early 90's, and use a cartoon style similar to that of the period...

And as for the voice acting, I'd love to do something myself, even the littlest part...

But for now let us all concentrate on plot and character ideas.

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You know, I used to hate anime kind of on principle, but lately I've been enjoying the hell out of Cowboy Bebop (I'm watching the 6th episode right now, actually), and I recently saw Akira, which was also fantastic - I wouldn't mind either's style of animation for this project.  But I'd try to avoid general anime cliches (not that I can think of any off the top of my head, since, well, I don't really watch much/any anime), and try to give it a Star Wars feel.

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A lot of cartoons in the late 80s were animated in Japan.

Disney did a lot of series that Tokyo Movie Shinsha/TMS Entertainment animated.  TMS is still around and does anime.  Dunno if that gives anyone any ideas or not, just thought I'd toss that out there.

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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Why is this thread dead. I think we should continue to elaborate on this. I have an idea that would be interesting. The Family Guy Blue Gender animation is a good basis. I think instead of starting from scratch we could use the films as blue prints. Basically drawing over what is already there. Now the adding filters thing doesn't work. I am saying to basically do it frame by frame then afterwords we could even have the extra biggs and luke on tatooine scene LOL.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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EyeShotFirst said:

Why is this thread dead. I think we should continue to elaborate on this. I have an idea that would be interesting. The Family Guy Blue Gender animation is a good basis. I think instead of starting from scratch we could use the films as blue prints. Basically drawing over what is already there. Now the adding filters thing doesn't work. I am saying to basically do it frame by frame then afterwords we could even have the extra biggs and luke on tatooine scene LOL.

 

You mean Family Guy Blue "Harvest"

Where did you get "gender" from?

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G E Predator said:
EyeShotFirst said:

Why is this thread dead. I think we should continue to elaborate on this. I have an idea that would be interesting. The Family Guy Blue Gender animation is a good basis. I think instead of starting from scratch we could use the films as blue prints. Basically drawing over what is already there. Now the adding filters thing doesn't work. I am saying to basically do it frame by frame then afterwords we could even have the extra biggs and luke on tatooine scene LOL.

 

You mean Family Guy Blue "Harvest"

Where did you get "gender" from?

Oh shit sorry that was an anime from the 90's LOL. I meant Harvest thank you LOL.

 

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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EyeShotFirst said:
G E Predator said:
EyeShotFirst said:

Why is this thread dead. I think we should continue to elaborate on this. I have an idea that would be interesting. The Family Guy Blue Gender animation is a good basis. I think instead of starting from scratch we could use the films as blue prints. Basically drawing over what is already there. Now the adding filters thing doesn't work. I am saying to basically do it frame by frame then afterwords we could even have the extra biggs and luke on tatooine scene LOL.

 

You mean Family Guy Blue "Harvest"

Where did you get "gender" from?

Oh shit sorry that was an anime from the 90's LOL. I meant Harvest thank you LOL.

 

Ah, I see.  LOL well, that's why pencils have erasers.

 

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The reason it was called Blue Harvest is it was a fake title actually used during filming revenge aka return of the jedi.

They pretended they were shooting a low budget horror picture called BLUE HARVEST: Horror Beyond Imagination.

Ironically enough an episode of the ewoks cartoon was also called blue harvest.

It was also a pretty elaborate was to trick people as they even had call sheets with fake names for the actors.

Until people found out that they were filming a star wars movie which just happened to be a sequel to empire strikes back one of the most sucessful films in film history at that point in time.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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i havent really followed this thread much since its conception, so i apologise in advance if i am suggesting something that has already been mentioned!:P

the whole idea of creating an animated movie is great, but the amount of work is incredible, perhaps smaller projects would be more achievable?

would people be interested in (for now) considering some smaller 10 minute 'interquels' for episodes? like the original clone wars cartoon, or 'the faithful wookie' from the holiday special?

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ben_danger said:

i havent really followed this thread much since its conception, so i apologise in advance if i am suggesting something that has already been mentioned!:P

the whole idea of creating an animated movie is great, but the amount of work is incredible, perhaps smaller projects would be more achievable?

would people be interested in (for now) considering some smaller 10 minute 'interquels' for episodes? like the original clone wars cartoon, or 'the faithful wookie' from the holiday special?

I was thinking that doing like that would work better. Kind of a Tune in next week. When each movie is finished then it could be combined into the full movie.

 

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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EyeShotFirst said:
ben_danger said:

i havent really followed this thread much since its conception, so i apologise in advance if i am suggesting something that has already been mentioned!:P

the whole idea of creating an animated movie is great, but the amount of work is incredible, perhaps smaller projects would be more achievable?

would people be interested in (for now) considering some smaller 10 minute 'interquels' for episodes? like the original clone wars cartoon, or 'the faithful wookie' from the holiday special?

I was thinking that doing like that would work better. Kind of a Tune in next week. When each movie is finished then it could be combined into the full movie.

 

I feel that would most likely happen regardless.... One piece at a time. =)

 

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Hi everyone, I am brand new to this place but have enjoyed reading this.  I was just thinking about one idea which I don't think has been suggested.  How would you feel about making NotPadme a jedi?

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I always thought she would at least be force sensitive... It never shows in the prequels, but only know it because the whole, "The Force is strong in my family." line.

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Well I was thinking if she was a Jedi, and Anakin believed the jedi were against him for some reason, then his thinking she is against him could help push him to the dark side.  This could be strengthened by him later killing her (on Sidious' suggestion) meaning the emperor would have driven all the good from him, and now the only good that remains (and threat to the emperor) is Luke (and Leia but she remains secret).

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I see where you're coming from. I prefer that she is royalty so that it explained why Leia carries the label of Princess... And not this elected official crap, ACTUAL royalty.... Bail could be a prince which could create an awesome love triangle. Makes the marriage of Anakin and NOT Padme even more forbidden.

 

I was also thinking about the classic movies. Characters that had bit parts but seem to carry weight like Mon Mothma, General Nadine, Admiral Ackbar. I think it would be interesting if these characters were primaries in the prequels, so that when you see them in the bit parts later you know full well their importance.

I have all these images of what I thought the prequels and they just didn't come close.

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This is true, but I'm just saying in the case of Star Wars, specifically classic SW, Princess to me came off as traditional royalty... It's easier for me to accept seeing as Leia is a Princess... Has there ever been a Princess elected? It's not a big issue, just would be easier to accept if Amidala had always been royalty in my opinion.

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Well I will try to explain how I have been imagining this, but please bear in mind that I am building on the ideas already suggested here so please don't think I am trying to claim they are all original.

 

Anakin - I like the idea of him being a space pilot of some description, and I would even have it so that he is carrying some sort of illegal cargo when he is first seen on screen.  This way he can already have many bad habits and although he isn't evil it means it is easier to see why he fell to the dark side.  He would also be a good contrast to Obi Wan because Obi Wan is the proper Jedi (so to speak).  Where Obi Wan advises caution, Anakin rushes in (much in the same way he is already in the prequels). 

 

Bail - He should be a Prince or King or whatever because then if we use the love triangle idea then that is where the title of Princess would pass from to Leia.  I think Bail and NotPadme should have some sort of intimate history, but they are unmarried because NotPadme is not suitable and Bail is already arranged to be married to someone else.  Then when NotPadme and Anakin hook up and Anakin turns to the dark side, Bail would immediatly offer to help NotPadme by looking after the children (showing that really he did love NotPadme).

 

NotPadme - Originally I was thinking she could be someone who was trained as a jedi, but left the order at a young age (for whatever reason).  That way she would have some training but not be as good as someone like Obi Wan.  Then somewhere along the line she ended up working as part of Bail's head of security or something like that, and thats how she met Bail.  But someone made the point the jedi shouldn't be so organised as to be an order that you leave and join, and I actually agree with that too, so instead maybe she began training, but completed even less than Luke did.  But there are 3 main reasons I think she should be a jedi:

1) It would explain why the force was so strong in Luke (because if Obi Wan trained Anakin and failed so badly then there would have to be a damn good reason for him to even consider training someone else). 

2) I think if Anakin is a very bold and even somewhat reckless character, then the attraction to NotPadme could be more believable by her being a similar character.  (Imagine when they first meet and he jokes about protecting her and really it is her protecting him). 

3) She can be killed by Anakin in a lightsaber fight, and we will literally see that there is no good left in him, and it will give Obi Wan massive concern over the children's safety, to the point where he splits them up to hide them.  And it would be a big enough shock to the system that Obi Wan would be so highly emotional when fighting Anakin that it seems like revenge for killing his friend, and this could be used in a 'will Obi Wan/won't Obi Wan turn to the dark side too?' kind of way. 

 

Ihope I have explained that well enough, and I would love to hear what people think.