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I would settle for good alternate scripts. Even if the movie never comes to be, i could read the new treatments, and use the old imagination. That is still leaps and bounds better than the current prequels.
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mrbenja0618 said:I would settle for good alternate scripts. Even if the movie never comes to be, i could read the new treatments, and use the old imagination. That is still leaps and bounds better than the current prequels.
If we could make some cool scripts, it might be a hoot to make audio-dramas. The Star Wars fan-audio-drama scene is very hot.
Not discounting the possibility of making animated films (or even watchable animatics just to illustrate our story) but those are a lot of work. I'm learning animation in AfterEffects now, and its harder than pulling the ears of a gundark, and takes more labor (but is quite a bit safer).
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Maybe a good audio drama, illustrated with good quality pictures, would be nice enough to achieve a first version of this project. And we would already have the dialogues recorded if the animated movie version ever happens.
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Like a motion comic?
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That could be interesting.
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TheBoost said:
The Star Wars fan-audio-drama scene is very hot.
Jessica Alba is very hot. I don't know about fan-audio-dramas.
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checkthis site out, it wont rally be that useful, but could be quite funny!
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ben_danger said:checkthis site out, it wont rally be that useful, but could be quite funny!
Wow.... That's funny. Filmmaking for bums!
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Monroville posted this on another thread, but I thought the pics would be good inspiration for possible visuals for the NPT
http://www.chrisfoss.net/gallery1.htm
http://www.altanen.dk/Gallery-Main.htm
If we intend for the modern Imperial forces to resemble the Old Republican forces, these are probably not the best designs for that, but brightly painted Mandalorian pirate ships would look pretty nifty.
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Here are the villains from my outline. We have a main badde (Mandalore) his twisted henchman (Rothven) and a treacherous partner-villain (Brett Thousand). Thoughs, comments, and suggestions are more than welcome.
WOYIC MANDALORE
The Battlelord of the Mandalorians leads his invasion fleet from his mighty flagship Hohrac. Gruff, violent, and is never seen outside of his blood-red armor (including skull-like helmet) which has shielding on the arms that deflect lightsabers. During the final battle ObiWan leads the Aqualonian Rangers onboard the Hohrac, and engages Mandalore in single combat. But the duel is just a distractin to allow the Rangers to scuttle the ship, destroying the Mandalorian chain of command and removing their greatest weapon. In the end, ObiWan and Mandalore crash to Alderaan in the scuttled front of the ship, but both crawl out of the wreckage alive.
ROTHVEN DAGUHN
Roth is a Mandalorian commander and placed in charge of hunting down Prince Bail. Toth is a beutiful young man, with perfectly styled curly hair, imaculate blue/gold armor, and a delicate and graceful (almost effiminate) nature. He's also a sadistic sociopath of such utter cruelty the rest of the warlike and brutal Mandalorians are uncomfortable with him. Anakin's first use of the force is during the climax, when he yanks the blaster out of Rothven's hand as Rothven threatens Lhasa "NotPadme" Arcadia.
BRETT THOUSAND
Notorious pirate Brett Thousand allied with the Mandalorians for money. Beared, heavyset, and with a robotic eye, Thousand has an undisguied contempt for the Mandalorians. His pirate fleet of aliens and cyborgs shore up the Mandalorian blockade on Alderaan, letting the Mandalorian Invasion Force focus on their strategic objectives. When the tide of battle turns as the Hohruc crashes, Thousand and his ships abandon the Mandalorians and retreat to hyperspace.
PALPATINE
The leader of the planet Had Abadon, Palpatine is an old man from an unimportant planet, but is the only member of the Republic willing to aid Alderaan in this conflict. After the pirates flee, early model TIE fighters from Had Abadon attack in the final battle, squeezing the Mandalorians between two fleets, forcing a surrender.
(For the Mandalorian names, I've been using the Native American Wiyot language. Very roughly Woyic=Wolf, Hohruc=Snake, Daguhn=Pain)
I have some notes on a Sith Assassin who kind of hangs on the edge of the plot, but no real solid ideas how to intergrate him into it at the moment.
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Thoughts about some evil Jedi-
Among the younger Jedi, Anakin has quite a following, even as early as Ep. II. Anakin is a great warrior, boldy defiant of the Jedi traditions, and really just cool. When he leaves the Jedi in Ep. III, maybe a dozen or so Jedi follow him to be his honor guard in Palpy's New Order, and eventually help him wipe out the Jedi.
But their loyallty is stronger towards Anakin than to Palpatine, so eventually he has them all murdered by putting them on a shuttle and surprising them all when they're released to the vacuum of space by young intelligence officer Tarkin.
This could serve as a tool to explain how one badass, even as badass as Anakin is, could take on the whole of the Jedi order. It also allows for big lightsaber battles.
Vaguely inspirted by Hitler wiping out the SA, the paramilitary group that helped him achieve power, 'The Night of Long Knives.'
...Is anyone else still playing? Becuase it's one thing to be part of a thread kicking ideas around, and debating concepts in the NPT, that's fun... it's another to be posting half-finished fan-fic, which is what it is if I'm the only one doing it. :)
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No, it's still happening. I won't be able to really work on the script like I'd planned until the semester is over, which will be around mid-May (no idea why I wrote "March" last night). Editing 1 and Motion Graphics 1 are killing my free time.
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I'm busy on an edit but I still have an eye on this thread.
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I haven't really contributed anything but I have been following the discussion.
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Same here, Johnny. :p
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Greetings all. It's been a while since I posted anything here. My enthusiasm kinda waned a while back. Action hero Jedi, Evil Jedi, and Pirates pretty much soured this project for me. I was working my way through my ideas and trying to incorporate some cool ideas that were offered by others, but then the conversation swung in directions that I couldnt make work with where my story was headed. So I took a step back and tried to come up with some info that may help anyone's ideas.
I was thinking about a ship. Someone mentioned earlier that we need our Millenium Falcon, and I agree. I was thinking of something like a space age tractor trailer...now dont scoff yet. What I mean is Anakin's Spice Freighter. What if it was a nice sized ship, but its connected to much larger freight tanks? This way it has a large slow first impression, but the main drive of the ship can be used for the daring escapes we may need in the story.
I've also been thinking about artoo and 3p0. I would still like to see 3p0 start with more confidence (remember Lucas originally thought of him as a used car salesman) but see him him beat down enough in the NPT to become the worrywart we know in the OT. I was also thinking about how 3p0 called artoo his "counterpart." This implies they really are a set that needs to be together. We need to see that happen. maybe 3p0 is the only one that can translate his particular buzzes and whistles.
Just a couple of ideas.
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If you have an expanded outline, I'd very much like to read it as well. It could come in handy with the first-draft script.
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Hey ChainsawAsh, it's been a while.
It just adds in a few things that i've talked about here and a few ideas from others.
But if it helps...it's all yours.
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Chainsaw, I sent you the PM.
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So how did the outline turn out?
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Thanks for that, Blackhawk - it will, inded, help.
MrBenja, if you've read the outline that's already in the thread, it's really not much different, it just goes into more detail.
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Why not rethink Palpatine and the Republic as well?
My thoughts tended to focus on the bigger issue of HOW the Republic would fall and be turned into an Empire. I say go to the history books and copy what happened with the Roman Republic's fall and re-emergance as an Empire, with Palpatine a stand-in for Caesar.
My idea for a complete reboot would have the Jedi and Sith in the midst (if not near the end) of a centuries long Crusade/Jihad, with the Jedi being a mix of the Holy Roman Empire and Buddhism and the Sith being a mix of Islam and Nehilism (or Nietzsche-ism), with both sides visually shown in a way to represent their beliefs: - the Jedi have color coded robes to indicate the profession of the Jedi (hunter, healer, thinker, etc), whereas the Sith have no ranking system.
I would give the Jedi a floating temple/city above Coruscant (as opposed to the capital of Alderaan), the commercial hub of the Republic to show how they have their "heads in the clouds" and essentially look down upon the people they "serve"; that while they still want to help people, it is the same mentality some religious/environmentalist groups have say to helping pets. The Jedi know how much power they have and take pride in their wisdom and enlightenment to not use it to rule but to guide; forget that their egos have the better of them. The Jedi also look down on technology and prefer a more simple and spiritual way of things. The reasoning for the Jedi's move to Coruscant would be to stem the corrupting influence of technology, which itself is tempting the Jedi to change their ways. This would already indicate how the Jedi have become corrupted much like how the Church did throughout the Holy Roman Empire (look up what monks did during the Renaissance and what led to the Protestant Reformation). In fact, Anakin could be developed into a "Martin Luthor" character who seeks to protest against the jedi order and form a faction of his own.
The Sith could be seen to have a more naturalistic view of things, with their planet/temple resembling vines growing into the ground - that they tend to work underneath the surface of things, even as they fight massive scaled battles with the Jedi in the open (I guess a good way to describe them would be religious ninjas). They seek not to conquer so much as to allow people to evolve naturally without the Jedi acting as a roadblock to their natural progress. The Sith would garner power from technology and use it to extend their lives.
Palpatine could rise to power due to a direct attack on the Jedi temple from a Sith battle fleet, whereupon a good portion of the city (and the people) are destroyed. The people, being tired of being caught in the middle of a 2-sided religious war, begin to reject "religion" and want someone to stop this chaos. Palpatine, rather than being a manipulating Sith Lord, is simply a general like Patton or Rommel who is tired of the chaos as well and voices the concerns of the people when he speaks out - I guess a better example would be Andrew Jackson, who was a master tactition but an outspoken asshole. In the end, power corrupts, and maybe it is after being mortally wounded that he is relegated to using the Dark Side of the Force to stay alive.
“You people must realize that the public owns you for life, and when you’re dead, you’ll all be in commercials dancing with vacuum cleaners.”
– Homer Simpson
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TheBoost said:Monroville posted this on another thread, but I thought the pics would be good inspiration for possible visuals for the NPT
http://www.chrisfoss.net/gallery1.htm
http://www.altanen.dk/Gallery-Main.htmIf we intend for the modern Imperial forces to resemble the Old Republican forces, these are probably not the best designs for that, but brightly painted Mandalorian pirate ships would look pretty nifty.
I would have the Imperial SDs resemble Sith battle cruisers. I say make the Jedi and the Sith actual forces to be reckoned with, and the Empire was created as a means of wiping out ALL religion. Being that the Empire is a good mix of the Nazis, Communist Russia and colonial British Empire, one of the goals of the first 2 groups was to eradicate religion as they believed it to be the source of all bad things. If it is shown just how ravaged the Republic becomes due to the constant crusades and jihads the Jedi and Sith declare on each other (with everyone else left in between) I could easily see how the masses could elect the 3rd party candidate so to speak (in the form of a General Palpatine) who then becomes the first Caesar.
In regards to the Mandalorians, one could make them more like the Templars than pirates - they are hired to do specific jobs, which may or may not mean assasination, stealing or whatnot. I would keep them low in number (like 10 or 12) and give each unique battle armor.
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Those are some very good ideas there. I like it a lot.