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StarkillerAG said:

4throck said:

StarkillerAG said:

Tantive3+1 said:

StarkillerAG said:

Tantive3+1 said:

I mentioned this earlier but the scenes between Han and Leia need to be more intimate.

Quick, someone find out if Carrie Fisher has ever done a sex scene in her career! 😉

You don’t need that. Cutting out the love triangle with Luke is a first step.

I know, I was joking. It’s a reference to some of the conversation that was going on in the prequel redux thread recently. Someone was trying to add a sex scene between Anakin and Padme, using footage from another Natalie Portman movie.

That scene works well in the context of Episode III. But on Jedi no.

I already told you, I WAS JOKING! Of course Han and Leia shouldn’t have sex on screen.

Dont back peddle, you know you want it lol jk. Agreed that it works for the prequels and Anakins temptation/fall, but neither Luke nor Han have such an arch or require such an intimate scene.

And idk about Love Triangle, but she straight kisses Luke in front of Han and again after Lukes hand is chopped. In the deleted scene/alt version you can even hear the kiss. Plus Luke oogling over her in Anh. You know what, never mind, its a triangle lol.

Muclunkey!
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Prequel-Trilogy-Revised-Trailer/id/70831

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I don’t think cutting Han’s Jealousy in ROTJ would solve your issue. The problematic scenes are in ESB (the kissing scenes between Luke and Leia). These are what create a “Love triangle” and although they get a bad rep these days, there is nothing wrong with love triangle if they are done right. What messes it up in ROTJ is when we find out that Luke and Leia are twins, at which point we stop being conflicted with whether we want Leia to end up with Luke or Han and instead just think of Lukeia as being the Grossest thing the in the galaxy (aside of from that ship name).

But obviously removing the whole “she is your sister” thing isn’t feasible and as ESBR is finished, the problem scenes from that, are locked in place. This leaves us with Han’s character, who already has a criminally small role in this film. From his perspective he likes Leia and knows she like him too, but he also knows Luke likes her and that they “have a connection”. And as we can’t cut the ESB scenes, he knows they kissed at least once. Beyond that he doesn’t know whats happened for the last however long he was frozen, only that they seem even closer than before and anyway the only really jealous bit we get (other than a few moments of excellently subtle acting, when ever he sees them showing mutual affection) is at the end, just before he finds out they are siblings.

Overall I would expect someone like Han to get a bit jealous. If he thought his best friend was getting with one of the few women he has ever had actual feeling for, dispite her having shown she likes both of them, he was ulitametly willing to step out of the way, showing how he has grown to care for both of them. Removing his jealousy arch would leave his character with litterally nothing in ROTJ and make the already farely forgotten scenes from ESB (forgotten as in the movie/characters seem to forget them as Luke doesn’t indictate he has a problem with kissing his sister at all, when he gets the news) seem even less consequential and more awkward.

So idk if its really a love triangle, I would say it was in ESB but that is set in stone as far as the Revisited series is concerned and we are only dealing with the fallout form that in ROTJ, which is needed given all the reasons above. There’s my two cents.

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I really don’t think the Han being jealous B.S. is needed in ROTJ at all. The culmination of the love triangle is Leia telling Han “I love you” in ESB. Kissing Luke when he’s half dead at the end of ESB is just caring for a close friend when they’re…well, half dead, not an added complication to the “love triangle.” You don’t need to resolve it in ROTJ because it’s already resolved in ESB - it just serves to harm Han’s character in ROTJ to leave that crap in.

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Even in ESB it’s not really a love triangle, as the only reason she’s kissing Luke like that is to piss off Han. It’s not because she WANTS to kiss Luke (although yes, there’s that deleted scene where she DOES, and then they’re interrupted - but since that’s gone, and Return of the Jedi exists…)

I think it’s possible to go straight from Han saying “Hey, what’s going on?” to Leia saying “Hold me” and the scene works just as well. No argument, Han still looks bewildered by Leia’s reactions without there being a dumb fight in between that highlights a silly plotline that shouldn’t exist, AND you lose some of Carrie Fisher’s absolute worst acting, ever.

You could probably take the “Hey, what’s going on” dialog out of its shot, dub it over the approach Han makes (it’s virtually the same) of him saying “I’m sorry” and just let the scene end like it always did (“Hold me”) The edit would be mostly audio, not video.

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Broom Kid said:

Even in ESB it’s not really a love triangle, as the only reason she’s kissing Luke like that is to piss off Han. It’s not because she WANTS to kiss Luke (although yes, there’s that deleted scene where she DOES, and then they’re interrupted - but since that’s gone, and Return of the Jedi exists…)

I think it’s possible to go straight from Han saying “Hey, what’s going on?” to Leia saying “Hold me” and the scene works just as well. No argument, Han still looks bewildered by Leia’s reactions without there being a dumb fight in between that highlights a silly plotline that shouldn’t exist, AND you lose some of Carrie Fisher’s absolute worst acting, ever.

You could probably take the “Hey, what’s going on” dialog out of its shot, dub it over the approach Han makes (it’s virtually the same) of him saying “I’m sorry” and just let the scene end like it always did (“Hold me”) The edit would be mostly audio, not video.

Yeah, wiping to the shuttle’s arrival after Luke leaves Leia just feels abrupt. That audio edit sounds like a feasible plan to preserve Han and Leia’s reaction while cutting out the “jealousy” bits.

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Broom Kid said:

Even in ESB it’s not really a love triangle, as the only reason she’s kissing Luke like that is to piss off Han. It’s not because she WANTS to kiss Luke (although yes, there’s that deleted scene where she DOES, and then they’re interrupted - but since that’s gone, and Return of the Jedi exists…)

I think it’s possible to go straight from Han saying “Hey, what’s going on?” to Leia saying “Hold me” and the scene works just as well. No argument, Han still looks bewildered by Leia’s reactions without there being a dumb fight in between that highlights a silly plotline that shouldn’t exist, AND you lose some of Carrie Fisher’s absolute worst acting, ever.

You could probably take the “Hey, what’s going on” dialog out of its shot, dub it over the approach Han makes (it’s virtually the same) of him saying “I’m sorry” and just let the scene end like it always did (“Hold me”) The edit would be mostly audio, not video.

Yeah, wiping to the shuttle’s arrival after Luke leaves Leia just feels abrupt. That audio edit sounds like a feasible plan to preserve Han and Leia’s reaction while cutting out the “jealousy” bits.

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Broom Kid said:

Even in ESB it’s not really a love triangle, as the only reason she’s kissing Luke like that is to piss off Han. It’s not because she WANTS to kiss Luke (although yes, there’s that deleted scene where she DOES, and then they’re interrupted - but since that’s gone, and Return of the Jedi exists…)

I think it’s possible to go straight from Han saying “Hey, what’s going on?” to Leia saying “Hold me” and the scene works just as well. No argument, Han still looks bewildered by Leia’s reactions without there being a dumb fight in between that highlights a silly plotline that shouldn’t exist, AND you lose some of Carrie Fisher’s absolute worst acting, ever.

You could probably take the “Hey, what’s going on” dialog out of its shot, dub it over the approach Han makes (it’s virtually the same) of him saying “I’m sorry” and just let the scene end like it always did (“Hold me”) The edit would be mostly audio, not video.

I mean its not just one kissing scene, and she clearly is kissing luke because she likes him, or have you forgot this scene? https://youtu.be/2ZNlDnG-azE?t=92

I do get that the plot doesn’t require the “love triangle” (and I know its not really one but what else do you call it) but like I said, its not about what the audiance knows, its about Han’s point of view. As far as he is concerned Leia has been stringing him along. The far worse part of that whole sequence is the whole kidnapped princess thing, where the ewoks randomly pulls a forest dress out of their ***es. I mean that whole think feels more like the Princess Bride than Star Wars.

Anyway Leia and Luke, behave like more than just friends and I feel Han would definaitly be the kind of fly-boy to overreact in that situation.

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Telion said:

I mean its not just one kissing scene, and she clearly is kissing luke because she likes him, or have you forgot this scene? https://youtu.be/2ZNlDnG-azE?t=92

That scene has already been addressed, and it doesn’t really count. It’s less romantic, and more just taking care of someone who’s basically half-dead. Leia’s feelings are fully with Han at this point.

I do get that the plot doesn’t require the “love triangle” (and I know its not really one but what else do you call it) but like I said, its not about what the audiance knows, its about Han’s point of view. As far as he is concerned Leia has been stringing him along. The far worse part of that whole sequence is the whole kidnapped princess thing, where the ewoks randomly pulls a forest dress out of their ***es. I mean that whole think feels more like the Princess Bride than Star Wars.

Anyway Leia and Luke, behave like more than just friends and I feel Han would definaitly be the kind of fly-boy to overreact in that situation.

But why would Han think Leia has been stringing him along, if they already admitted that they loved each other. The so-called “love triangle” was completely resolved in the carbonite scene, no need for Han to suddenly be jealous again.

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I never once in my life saw that kiss as even remotely romantic!

There’s not really a love triangle even in Empire. Lucas might have thought there was one, but again - the first thing Leia says when she wakes up Han in ROTJ is that she loves him. So even if anyone wanted to read that bedside peck as her taking the opportunity to express her romantic feelings for Luke, the question is effectively dead once Leia rescues Han.

Also there’s the fact Leia never once says anything even close to that to Luke in the Trilogy. She says “I love you” to Han twice, but the one time she admits she does love Luke, Han is the one who says it, to HER, and she laughs like “Yes, but as a brother, dumbass.” There is one scene of open attraction from Leia, towards Luke, in all of Star Wars, and it got cut out in Empire Strikes Back.

Kasdan I think knew the idea of the love triangle was dumb, and knew he’d solved that problem in the prior movie anyway, so he did what he could to present the facade of one to please George but never at any point wrote the characters to behave as if there actually WAS one in play.

It’s so easy to remove the subplot, too. Just cut from “Hey, what’s going on to” “Hold me.” and that’s one part of it completely gone. The other part, on Endor, simply necessitates a shot of Han looking confused and questioning after she says “He’s not. I can feel it.” If you can cut to Han looking goofy (pick a reaction face, he goes through like 3 of them in that scene) after she says that for a second or two, you can just cut back to Leia laughing and saying “He’s my brother.”

Scene plays out as intended. Both scenes are now dramatically consistent with each other and make Han less of an idiot while still making him humorous.

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There 100% was a love triangle in Star Wars and Empire, it’s not something you can argue against, it’s there. Since Leia had to be retconned into being the twin sister for Jedi, the love triangle had to be ditched, simple as that. But I don’t see how you can watch Star Wars and Empire and claim there isn’t a love triangle in play…

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In Star Wars, Luke thinks he’s got a shot at Leia. Leia basically thinks both of them are bozos. Han doesn’t like her at all until he finds out Luke likes her. If there’s a “triangle” there it’s so simplistic as to be “hey there’s a girl here which of these two guys gets to get her.” That’s good enough to call it a “triangle” I guess, and historically it’s been seen as such but it’s pretty thin, dramatically.

But in Empire: The movie starts with Leia and Han liking each other. Luke is barely there, and when he IS there, she’s using him as a means to get at Han. And from that point forward it’s alllll Han & Leia. There’s no Luke. And there’s never Luke again. His leg of the (really weak) “Love Triangle” is dead the second Leia plants one on him and storms out of the room. At no point is he a romantic consideration for Leia afterwards. That’s borne out by the movie itself, and the behavior of the characters in it, and that’s before you even get to Jedi.

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There is no “love triangle” in Star Wars OR Empire. In ANH Han only says he’s interested in her to wind up Luke. Luke is the only one to show any interest in her but there is nowhere that Leia shows anything more than friendship towards Luke. The kiss on the cheek during the chasm sequence is nothing more than a kiss for luck. In ESB Leia only kisses Luke in the medical bay to wind Han up. The kiss she gives Luke after they rescue him is nothing more than a friendly kiss. She has already announced her love for Han by this point. Luke doesn’t show any romantic interest in her at all.

Yet when we get to ROTJ, Han suddenly thinks Luke is a rival and becomes this jealous idiot? All that has to go. Han became a pretty much useless character as it is in Jedi, but this jealousy crap put it over the edge.

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adywan said:

There is no “love triangle” in Star Wars OR Empire. In ANH Han only says he’s interested in her to wind up Luke. Luke is the only one to show any interest in her but there is nowhere that Leia shows anything more than friendship towards Luke. The kiss on the cheek during the chasm sequence is nothing more than a kiss for luck. In ESB Leia only kisses Luke in the medical bay to wind Han up. The kiss she gives Luke after they rescue him is nothing more than a friendly kiss. She has already announced her love for Han by this point. Luke doesn’t show any romantic interest in her at all.

Yet when we get to ROTJ, Han suddenly thinks Luke is a rival and becomes this jealous idiot? All that has to go. Han became a pretty much useless character as it is in Jedi, but this jealousy crap put it over the edge.

nonsense

Assimilate THIS!

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Adywan I’m Looking Foward To The New Sequences With The B Wings And Are You Gonna Use The Intended “Into The Trap” Music Cue From The Soundtrack? In The Movie, The Music Has Been Edited And I Was Like “That Was Not What I Heard On The Soundtrack”.

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Nandi said:

adywan said:

There is no “love triangle” in Star Wars OR Empire. In ANH Han only says he’s interested in her to wind up Luke. Luke is the only one to show any interest in her but there is nowhere that Leia shows anything more than friendship towards Luke. The kiss on the cheek during the chasm sequence is nothing more than a kiss for luck. In ESB Leia only kisses Luke in the medical bay to wind Han up. The kiss she gives Luke after they rescue him is nothing more than a friendly kiss. She has already announced her love for Han by this point. Luke doesn’t show any romantic interest in her at all.

Yet when we get to ROTJ, Han suddenly thinks Luke is a rival and becomes this jealous idiot? All that has to go. Han became a pretty much useless character as it is in Jedi, but this jealousy crap put it over the edge.

nonsense

Instead of giving just a one word reply, why don’t you explain why you think what i said was nonsense? But there is NO love triangle in SW and the original Love triangle in ESB was left on the cutting room floor. Even though minute hints of it still exists in some form, it was excised from the plot.

JacobTheMoviePurist92 said:

Adywan I’m Looking Foward To The New Sequences With The B Wings And Are You Gonna Use The Intended “Into The Trap” Music Cue From The Soundtrack? In The Movie, The Music Has Been Edited And I Was Like “That Was Not What I Heard On The Soundtrack”.

No. The music cue on the soundtrack no longer works with that sequence and i have no intention of altering the editing in the opening of the death star approach by the fleet.

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What is the opening of the death star approach and the attacking fighters going to look like once it’s finished?

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adywan said:

There is no “love triangle” in Star Wars OR Empire. In ANH Han only says he’s interested in her to wind up Luke. Luke is the only one to show any interest in her but there is nowhere that Leia shows anything more than friendship towards Luke. The kiss on the cheek during the chasm sequence is nothing more than a kiss for luck. In ESB Leia only kisses Luke in the medical bay to wind Han up. The kiss she gives Luke after they rescue him is nothing more than a friendly kiss. She has already announced her love for Han by this point. Luke doesn’t show any romantic interest in her at all.

Facts.

Yet when we get to ROTJ, Han suddenly thinks Luke is a rival and becomes this jealous idiot? All that has to go.

Awesome. My most desired change to the movie.

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Biggs in ANH edit idea
ROTJ opening edit idea

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adywan said:

There is no “love triangle” in Star Wars OR Empire. In ANH Han only says he’s interested in her to wind up Luke. Luke is the only one to show any interest in her but there is nowhere that Leia shows anything more than friendship towards Luke. The kiss on the cheek during the chasm sequence is nothing more than a kiss for luck. In ESB Leia only kisses Luke in the medical bay to wind Han up. The kiss she gives Luke after they rescue him is nothing more than a friendly kiss. She has already announced her love for Han by this point. Luke doesn’t show any romantic interest in her at all.

Yet when we get to ROTJ, Han suddenly thinks Luke is a rival and becomes this jealous idiot? All that has to go. Han became a pretty much useless character as it is in Jedi, but this jealousy crap put it over the edge.

Yep, that’s how I’ve perceived it all. Yes please remove the jealous Han stuff. It was just … bad and didn’t make sense in the context of the movie itself … let alone in ESB.

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Long(ish) reply post coming up…

sans_fi said:

Inspired by Sir Ridley, I thought to myself, What if I projected the image of the Death Star into a proper sphere that had the correct volumes of the superlaser, the trench, and the cuts in the surface as the Death Star II?

Here is a broad test. It allows you to move the view slightly. At some point you start seeing the trick, but it could be a nice tool to get static different points of views (by reparing the image a little) or to get slight movement like Sir Ridley suggested.

https://youtu.be/jkrWhBfGcBg

That’s amazing. I love just how much talent there is in these forums. Could something like this be used on a static image of a ship, like the Executor, just to give it some subtle 3d movement as it moves across the screen?

nl0428 said:

It would be interesting if a new more enhanced puppet of Sy Snootles was used.

This was the plan originally. I was thinking about building a full size puppet that would be manipulated the same was 3p0 was in Episode 1. That way, it could be walking and moving more naturally. The CG version is just horrendous but the original puppet also has its problems, but it still looks better than the 97 abomination. Sadly i don’t think that the new puppet could be pulled off on such a small budget.

Tantive3+1 said:

In this shot Luke’s saber goes through the railing here without damaging it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVWGmQgHDZc&t=2m17s

The engines of a Y-wing that passes here in this shot are not light up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG2PL3bUH1s&t=1m04s

When the shield generator explodes, a piece of shrapnel flies towards the left side of the screen and then bounces back off from the inside of the wall it was housed in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN3kISlsSCQ&t=0m09s

All those will be fixed

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ChainsawAsh said:

We have theatrical DTS audio for all six pre-Disney movies (1997 SEs and all three prequels).

Good to know!

Unpopular suggestion: can Ady cut the crying rancor keeper? I’ve hated it since I first watched the film and its removal would help reduce the bloat of the Jabba section.

I quite like the Rancor keeper getting upset. So that will be staying.

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

First, the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNmt5wpJBPI

AND THEN the million dollar question:

Adywan, is this something you might consider using in your edit?

No. The original is much better.

FreezingTNT2 said:

I have an idea: when Vader witnesses Luke being electrocuted by Palpatine, he should say “Leave my son alone.” instead of “NOOO!!!”. What do you think?

That scene should remain without dialogue, as it was originally.

Tantive3+1 said:

Would it be possible for this scene to be reshot to include a gloved hand?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qQB2NXfJev0&t=39s

The DS crew in this scene are all wearing black gloves but then in the next shot a gloveless hand is shown pushing a button.

Adywan, you could use your own hand for that shot.

Things like this will also be fixed

ChainsawAsh said:

It’d also be nice for the writing on the screen to be rewritten with the “actual” Aurebesh alphabet (which was used for the tractor beam text in the 2004 SE of ANH). As it is now, it’s just gibberish.

But yeah, replacing the naked hand with a glove is a good call.

Most of the displays will be replaced anyway, so the text will end up saying something. Like i did in ANH 😉

Matt.F said:

Actually talking of voices, and from the same opening scene with the ‘ungloved hand’, the blond Imperial Officer who says “Inform the Commander that Lord Vader’s shuttle has arrived” speaks with a very noticeably American accent.

If you watch ESB and ROTJ back-to-back its actually quite jarring to hear the US accent from an Imperial officer right at the start of the film - in ESB the British accent was the voice of the Empire’s officer class and it gave the Empire a certain haughty aristocracy that worked very well.

Hardly a game changer but I think redubbing a British accent for that officer would be a nice little improvement to the movie.

I may be removing this line of dialogue anyway. This is something that has always bugged me with ROTJ. Ruined reveals. Take this opening scene for instance. The shuttle arrives, then Moff Jerjerrod is waiting nervously. The shuttle door opens. But not directly revealing who it is. Instead it starts showing only the feet then panning up to reveal it’s Vader. But this was ruined because the audience has just been told that its Vader in the shuttle. Another is the reveal of the Ewoks. The gang escapes the net only to be surrounded by some strange small creatures. Any suspense as to the nature of these creatures was already ruined by having the scene with Wicket and Leia. Also that scene ruins the reveal that leia is ok when she emerges from the hut in the Ewok village and also the jeapody of Han and co searching for her. We already know she is ok. Removbe the commander telling us its vader in the shuttle and the whole scene works better. Remove the Leia and Wicket scene and everything after that works better too. Just have the scene play out that you see this unknown creature approach leia and poke her with the spear, leia awakes started and…cut. We don’t know her fate. We don’t know these little guys are ultimately friendly.

HigHurtenflurst said:

One of the things that I loved the most in ANH:R was the seamless inclusion of the planet Yavin in the background of the final battle. (Not actually sure if Yavin is the name of the moon, or the planet…) It added a striking visual element and a sorely needed piece of geographical continuity.

It might be neat to try something similar here, unless if would be too visually distracting; there’s a LOT more going on in this fight!

Adding a large planet that isn’t Endor into the mix during the battle would be too similar to ANH:R. Plus we already have the Endor moon being so prominent. Adding another would become distracting.

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TheAlaskanSandman said:

adywan said:

DZ-330 said:

A quick suggestion for ROTJ:R, maybe throw in a reference to Thrawn in the background displays or see if you can add the Rebel’s Ghost ship in the Battle of Endor. It would be quite a treat for fans of Star Wars Rebels. ESB:R is a masterpiece. Wishing you all the best on ROTJ:R Ady!

Chopper is already in ESB:R 😉

Im doing a prequel trilogy and was wondering how you were handling Leiah knowing her mother if at all. I want to make the prequels fit with the Ot and not spoil or mess anything up with continuity. Not sure how i should handle the twins just yet

I believe Adywan said he’s omitting the scene where Leia says she remembers her mother.

Someone should do a flashback scene where Padme names her children in ROTJ as Obi-wan tells Luke about Leia, but it should be removed from Revenge of the Sith.

No, i never said i would be removing that. I was originally going to fix that when doing ROTS, but as i am no longer doing the prequels, i’m not bothered about the continuity. George messed up, pure and simple. The problem was never with the OT as these came first. If it was to be altered to fix this ( instead of fans trying hard to explain the error by claiming she was remembering her adopted mother, even though Luke clearly asker about her “real mother”, or that she remembers it through a force vision) then it needed to be altered in ROTS. My original plan was to have padme live, but hidden from the emperor and Vader on Alderaan, and Leia adopted.

ray_afraid said:

I thought this was interesting.

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screams in the void said:

I watched Return Of The Jedi last night and caught something that I never gave much thought …when the Emperor tells Vader to go to the sanctuary moon and wait for Skywalker , he does not arrive on the moon until after nightfall .In the scene right after Vader has his talk with Palps ,the rebels land on Endor and a full day passes into night before Luke goes off to meet Vader . Was there that much travel time between Death Star 2 and Endor via shuttle ? Or did Vader go off and meditate for a while before departing ? I guess this could be open to a lot of speculation .

…Luke says to Leia “Vader’s here - on this moon…” when Vader hasn’t landed yet.

Any thoughts on this?

Vader is already on the moon. We just see his shuttle land on one of the pads where and AT-AT is docking. Vader could just have come from the shield base and not just arrived from the Death Star.

Bingowings said:

In the space battle we have A,B,X and Y-wings but apparently only 3 wing groups. Are fighters and bombers shared across wing groups?

It’s a continuity mess the way the battle has been edited. We have Lando leading Gold group ( but no fighters in Gold group), Red group is the X-wings, Green groups is the A-wings and Grey group is the Y-wings. Blue groups was also in there originally, which were the B-wings. But who the hell is Lando the leader of? In ROTJ:R, the Y-wings return to being Gold group and the B-wings are back as Blue group. Grey group is gone.

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RoccondilRinon said:

There are two very different kinds of explosion effect in the OT. Where they’ve blown up a miniature it’s great. Where they’ve merely match cut to a firework going off it’s hardly more “realistic” than a CG one. The latter can still work fine (they used it for the Death Stars after all) but in some cases the mismatch between the miniature and the firework is jarring.

Yeah exactly, which is what I mean when I say in some ways they aren’t better, though in other ways they are, like the fact that they’re actual photographed explosions.

Even still you can’t quite delineate between a miniature exploding and a match cut to an explosion. The DSII for instance is the latter but it’s one of the best in the series because they lit up the miniature for the shot before it cuts to the explosion, so you have a relatively seamless combination of the two elements.

Speaking of, to put us back on topic, has ady said if he’ll be keeping the praxis wave for the explosion? It’s the one added praxis ring that I think actually adds a little something to the effect and energy of the shot (with the Falcon outrunning it being one last thrill). One of the only SE additions I miss a little when I watch the OOT.

No, i never really liked the praxis effect for the Death Star explosions,only planet explosions, especially in ROTJ where it would have devastated the facing section of Endor.

Telion said:

I’m not sure if anyone has brought this up. Its bound to be controversial but, is there any footage from ‘Caravan of Courage: An Ewok Adventure’/‘Ewoks: The Battle for Endor’ that could be useful to supplement the Endor scenes.

Its very likely the footage is too low quality and idk if there are any “good quality” sources for it out there. But it might have useful shots/clips of Ewoks or the forest in there. It would be unsurprising if its a no, though.

Even with the new upscaled fan made version of Battle of Endor (which i think is amazing by the way and applaud DarthPyro52 for what he was able to accomplish) , the footage is too low quality to be used on it own. I have been looking through to see if i can add elements to new plates for the ground troop battle. But, until i can start some tests, i don’t know if integrating elements from the Ewok movies would work for what i need.

Telion said:

Adywan, in your full list of changes you’ve put:
“Have a small portion of the Ewok celebration which then leads to the funeral pyre scene. This is where the Force Ghosts will appear and the film will end with Luke being alone (which in turn foreshadows TFA).”

And I was just wondering where the stance is on that now. After TLJ/TROS, I know I’m not sure about how to feel when it comes to the sequel trilogy. I liked TFA, but it didn’t stand on its own and kind of hung on ANH/the promise of solid sequels but, given the disjointed nature of that trilogy… idk.
The real reason I ask is because, if that sort of open-ended ending was still part of you’re plan, then…

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Could that new scene of Luke training Leia work as an alternative ending. It would still require trimming down the celebration and I’m not sure whether the pyre scene would work better where it is rn or just before the new scene, but I can imagine that scene fitting in there. I feel it would work well to act as a pay off to the whole “there is another” and give the whole siblings plot an actual conclusion, rather than just drama. It would also work for “haters” and fans of the Sequels alike, and would give credibility to certain controversial plot points that felt forced due to them having no setup.

Overall I believe it would add to the movie, and Star Wars saga, as (for some) the final movie in the saga, would end with Luke fulfilling his role of teaching the next generation of Jedi. The ‘Return Of The Jedi’.

Ending it on the pyre scene, with the ghosts added, was just an idea. The more i thought about it, the more i missed the celebration ( Yub-Nub, not the SE version with the ripped off native american/ new age music). The planet celebrations will still be erased ( why the hell are there thousands of people celebrating in mos eisley, a small spaceport?). The Empire isn’t fully defeated at this point and the celebrations are way too quick to happen. I’m going back to the pre-SE version of the ending ( with one or two changes, like the added wedge shots).

SWOTFAN25 said:

This is a rough version of the “force connection” I’m talking about. They also replicate this in TLJ with Ben and Leia. But great suggestion! @CarboniteSolo

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In this scene they aren’t connecting or communicating with each other. Vader and luke are just sensing each other, so the ESB effect doesn’t work here.

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JacobTheMoviePurist92 said:

Adywan I’m Looking Foward To The New Sequences With The B Wings And Are You Gonna Use The Intended “Into The Trap” Music Cue From The Soundtrack? In The Movie, The Music Has Been Edited And I Was Like “That Was Not What I Heard On The Soundtrack”.

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