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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 9

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It’d be pretty awesome to have a few of the b-wings use this special ability.

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ChainsawAsh said:

SilverWook said:

If you show a pile of some bloodied Imperial armor, (or could just look like the helmets were smashed in) in a cutaway as they’re getting ready to cook Luke and company, that establishes that the Ewoks can be mean little buggers in large numbers. Han could be looking at it before he says “I got a bad feeling about this.”

This too.

Agreed. I think this would be a nice way of establishing that the Ewoks could be more credible in the later battles. Nice idea!

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adywan said:

While it will be next year at least before i write up all the ideas i had for the PT, this is one thing that was worked on. It was to be included in the Complete Saga trailer i had planned, but when decided not to do the PT, it was scrapped and never properly finished, so is still in its very rough stages.

https://youtu.be/JhdKtsZNAHQ

I don’t mean to guilt trip you Ady but this just makes me even more depressed. The PT needs to be done by someone. You were my last hope, cue Yoda 😃

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6Dp2OfIT_M

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adywan said:

The whole end celebration may only be featured in a short section, with a new ending. Not going to say any more until i do some tests to see if my ideas work though.

JEDIT: Well now it looks like I’m quoting Ady for no reason…

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Glad to see the SE elements being removed. Especially Jedi Rocks. Ady, will you be restoring the original or just cutting it out altogether? I never felt like the Jabbas Palace scene needed a song and dance number

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ClownBaby said:

Glad to see the SE elements being removed. Especially Jedi Rocks. Ady, will you be restoring the original or just cutting it out altogether? I never felt like the Jabbas Palace scene needed a song and dance number

I honestly wouldn’t mind lapti nek coming back but the original puppet simply lacks polish or isn’t that good.

we could keep the short musical sequence from the special edition before jabba demands the main entertainment, then have it transition to when chewwy and leia arrive. but then what do we do about the twilek slave who gets eaten?

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I imagine you’ve seen all these already ADY, but others who haven’t been on the forum so long may have not seen them.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B3yF2t_dm8BXUHNrY2wwMHNoa1E?usp=sharing

Years ago a member called SSWR made a bunch of small, yet effective, edit ideas. I didn’t manage to get hold of all of them before he took them offline, but there are some nice small ideas for ROTJ.

As far as ewoks are concerned - I like the idea that they are a thematic tool to take the rebels to the back door, and to act as a lure to the imperial forces.

It was joked around years ago that C3PO should be painted green perhaps - it seems oddly impractical to take a bright gold protocol droid to Endor when you’ve got the rest of the team wearing camouflage.

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I do like the idea of Luke constructing his lightsaber using the Force in possibly Ben’s Hut or on Dagobah if Ady intends on starting ROTJ: R there.

I too wouldn’t be opposed to Palpatine’s Super Star Destroyer appearing if need be. And I do like the idea of the Death Star not revealing itself till later in the film with mere glimpses leading up to the epic space battle. It would make for a nice reveal methinks.

So, the Victory Celebration theme isn’t going to be used (that I was already aware was going to be removed). I’ve been thinking now that Ady is no longer going to be working on the Prequels, what are the chances of maybe adopting ‘Across the Stars’ ending the film instead? It’s something that’s been going through my mind as of late.

Also, will that Dug (Sebulba) addition in Jabba’s Palace remain? Not that it was pointless, to begin with, but I didn’t mind it. Also, loving the idea of Leia giving Luke Padme’s necklace on which would later fuel Vader’s intentions of ending Palpatine once and for all. And Boba playing double agent through the film - guess it would give him some purpose I suppose.

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adywan said:

While it will be next year at least before i write up all the ideas i had for the PT, this is one thing that was worked on. It was to be included in the Complete Saga trailer i had planned, but when decided not to do the PT, it was scrapped and never properly finished, so is still in its very rough stages.

https://youtu.be/JhdKtsZNAHQ

Thats very incredibly awesome. (By the way, I never thought of that, it makes so much more sense story wise and a lot more epic) It is absolutely a shame it will never be.

Bingowings said:

I don’t mean to guilt trip you Ady but this just makes me even more depressed. The PT needs to be done by someone. You were my last hope, cue Yoda 😃

In my opinion, it was only Adywan who could turn the prequels into proper Star Wars movies and no one else. With Adywan out of the picture, prequels are lost forever, as they will never be watchable no matter how much you cut them. (Mostly because it needs a special touch only Adywan level editing could provide.) But no one could blame him as it is a massive undertaking and OT took so much of his time as it is.

ClownBaby said:

Glad to see the SE elements being removed. Especially Jedi Rocks. Ady, will you be restoring the original or just cutting it out altogether? I never felt like the Jabbas Palace scene needed a song and dance number

I would agree, it always seemed odd that there is a musical number at that scene. (I mean, this was supposed to be the first time we see the big bad boss “Jabba the Hutt” as he was only mentioned in the first movie, there should have been a little mystery, a little suspense… but BOOOM! a silly musical number with dancing and stuff.) Not to mention it was already weird before and SE made it so much worse. Only thing I would keep from the SE would be the Twi’lek slave girl scene (you know, where he throws her in the pit to be eaten), because that scene could be used for bit of a foreshadowing and it made Jabba the Hutt seem a little bit more menacing. (a total disregard for life)

adywan said:

Yes, a female voice will be reinstated for that pilot. The deleted scenes for ROTJ, for the most part, are very low quality. No amount of cleaning and upscaling could get those shots acceptable for a HD film. This includes all of the Jerjerrod scenes. The only ones that have really any chance of fitting in are the Falcon interior scenes.

It is really awesome that you are adding and restoring (well, partly at least) female pilots.
It is entirely up to you, but I have a question/suggestion for you.
Since you are already building sets and costumes to use it on this project, would you consider adding female pilots to ANH:R-HD as well? (I am only suggesting it here because… well… it is relevant here, since you are already going to build everything necessary to do such a thing for RotJ:R, you could do the scenes for the both movies in a single take) All three of these movies have a serious lack of female characters (not to mention there are female pilots in the meeting, but no female pilots in the fight) and it could be used to flesh out the first Deathstar fight we see.

Lastly, how do you guys feel about adding a few TIE Striker’s? I mean, the rebellion has so many cool ships and fighters, but on the Empires side there is little to no variety.
https://lumiere-a.akamaihd.net/v1/images/tie-striker_21f90de5.jpeg
It looks cool and adding some diversity would be visually stunning.

I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away..

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TIE Strikers are atmospheric fighters, which might be neat for the ground battle. However, I don’t see when in the battle they could fit. The shield had to be lowered for Tydirium to land, so I’ve always imagined that there’s a shield over at least part of the surface too. Like the cone that goes up and around the DS2 is still a few miles wide on the surface to protect the shield generator from bombing runs. So any kind of aerial battle would have to happen after the shield goes down, which doesn’t leave much opportunity for air strikes.

As for those mourning the PTR, I firmly believe that Adywan was not your last hope. There are plenty of talented people on this forum and others who have been reworking the prequels for years.

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doubleofive said:

As for those mourning the PTR, I firmly believe that Adywan was not your last hope. There are plenty of talented people on this forum and others who have been reworking the prequels for years.

There have been many, many PT edits some of which add a few new effects to get their reinterpretation of the stories across. There were a couple Ady style total reworkings started a while back but news of those has gone very cold (hopefully because the editors in question are too busy doing it to comment). It’s been a weird couple of weeks for me and perhaps I invested too much hope in the whole six part saga thing (for the second time in my life 😄 ). ROTJ:R and PT:R were the Ady projects that interested me the most. I’m grateful that at least one is still going to happen. But I will probably mourn the loss of the latter the most because of the possibilities it offered. Very few people will complain about major changes to the PT. The first two films were classics of any genre so people tend to get more tetchy about altering them. The gauntlet has been thrown hopefully someone will pick it up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6Dp2OfIT_M

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doubleofive said:

TIE Strikers are atmospheric fighters, which might be neat for the ground battle. However, I don’t see when in the battle they could fit. The shield had to be lowered for Tydirium to land, so I’ve always imagined that there’s a shield over at least part of the surface too. Like the cone that goes up and around the DS2 is still a few miles wide on the surface to protect the shield generator from bombing runs. So any kind of aerial battle would have to happen after the shield goes down, which doesn’t leave much opportunity for air strikes.

As for those mourning the PTR, I firmly believe that Adywan was not your last hope. There are plenty of talented people on this forum and others who have been reworking the prequels for years.

Well, they are mainly atmospheric fighters but as Wiki says:

Though designed for atmosphere, it could also function in space and accompany traditional TIE fighters. Equipped with advanced high-speed wings, it was faster than the standard TIE fighter and had two extra pairs of laser barrels.
The starfighter was also useful for shifting supplies and personnel from orbit to the planet surface, thanks to a larger central pod.

They can be used in space and can accompany regular TIE fighters. Their presence in the final battle especially makes sense because it takes place above a planet where it would be most useful for shifting supplies and personnel from orbit to the planet surface and to fend off any attackers if the shield goes down. They should be seen orbiting the planet and moving up to the battle when the fight heats up.

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I don’t recall whether there were many/any at all of the TIE Interceptors (or were they featured more in the games?). I reckon there should be more of those fighters in battle to accompany the traditional fighters. And I do like the idea of TIE Bombers on Endor too, btw.

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sansuni said:

doubleofive said:

TIE Strikers are atmospheric fighters, which might be neat for the ground battle. However, I don’t see when in the battle they could fit. The shield had to be lowered for Tydirium to land, so I’ve always imagined that there’s a shield over at least part of the surface too. Like the cone that goes up and around the DS2 is still a few miles wide on the surface to protect the shield generator from bombing runs. So any kind of aerial battle would have to happen after the shield goes down, which doesn’t leave much opportunity for air strikes.

As for those mourning the PTR, I firmly believe that Adywan was not your last hope. There are plenty of talented people on this forum and others who have been reworking the prequels for years.

Well, they are mainly atmospheric fighters but as Wiki says:

Though designed for atmosphere, it could also function in space and accompany traditional TIE fighters. Equipped with advanced high-speed wings, it was faster than the standard TIE fighter and had two extra pairs of laser barrels.
The starfighter was also useful for shifting supplies and personnel from orbit to the planet surface, thanks to a larger central pod.

They can be used in space and can accompany regular TIE fighters. Their presence in the final battle especially makes sense because it takes place above a planet where it would be most useful for shifting supplies and personnel from orbit to the planet surface and to fend off any attackers if the shield goes down. They should be seen orbiting the planet and moving up to the battle when the fight heats up.

Maybe they can be added in the huge formations when the Emperor arrives, or escorting cargo ships from the surface to the DS2…

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Hey Ady, when Luke and Vader are duelling on the Death Star, I don’t suppose you’re going to do something about Vader’s floating back somersault down the stairs after taking that kick from Luke? It just looks totally off to me now that I think about it. It’s clearly obvious that he’s on a wire.

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In my opinion, it was only Adywan who could turn the prequels into proper Star Wars movies and no one else. With Adywan out of the picture, prequels are lost forever, as they will never be watchable no matter how much you cut them. (Mostly because it needs a special touch only Adywan level editing could provide.) But no one could blame him as it is a massive undertaking and OT took so much of his time as it is.

Come on. I’m sure there are SOME people who love them.

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Are there any plans to address some of the bad Rancor shots? Some shots look great, but others, especially some of the close-ups, look awful against the blue-screen backgrounds. In those shots the Rancor really doesn’t look at all like it’s in the scene. Those shots really hurt the entire scene imo.

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darth_ender said:

I feel like I’m regurgitating a bunch of my favorite ideas from the ROTJ collaborative thread, but I’ve always liked the BTL-B Y-wing design and think it complements the OT’s Y-wing nicely.

That are the same ships.

The OT Y-Wings just have their armor panels removed because they are easier and faster to maintain this way.
Also the armor was total useless against modern fighters so it was already obsolete and just made the Y-Wings slower.

So it makes no sense to put them in ROTJ.

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Agreed. I’d suggest putting the plated Y-wings in PT:R, but…well…

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Really? I love it, personally. And the look of the TCW Headhunters. Really wish those were the Republic ships we got in ROTS instead of…um…whatever those weird “asterisk-wing” looking things were.

Anyway, back to ROTJ:R…

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ChainsawAsh said:

Really? I love it, personally.

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This is one of the reasons why a revived PT is essential (whoever finally makes the thing). To be the visual backstory for the OT. All the beat up ships the rebels use were once state of the art republic ships. The beat up ships of the PT should be from even earlier ages. Seeing the Imperial ships as wrecks being salvaged in the ST carries the theme forward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6Dp2OfIT_M

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ray_afraid said:

My hate for that “covered” Y-Wing design knows no bounds.

One of the earliest descriptions of Y-Wings I read in the '70’s mentioned the coverings being stripped for ease of maintenance, so it’s canon more or less. There might actually be a vintage design sketch showing a “covered” Y-Wing. I know I saw something many years before TCW.

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Ady, does the California unit need any extra hands to volunteer for crew or cast?