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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 10

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CDorius said:

darth_ender said:

I feel like I’m regurgitating a bunch of my favorite ideas from the ROTJ collaborative thread, but I’ve always liked the BTL-B Y-wing design and think it complements the OT’s Y-wing nicely.

That are the same ships.

The OT Y-Wings just have their armor panels removed because they are easier and faster to maintain this way.
Also the armor was total useless against modern fighters so it was already obsolete and just made the Y-Wings slower.

So it makes no sense to put them in ROTJ.

They are technically different ships: BTL-B vs BTL-A4. There probably is truth to what you say about the armor, but I don’t think Ady is beholden to any EU, nor does that lack of armor have to be consistently applied to all Y-wings. The Rebels are not as rag-tag a force as they used to be. That said, I personally am suggesting it because of the design, not out of any love for the EU.

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Adywan, may the force be with you. I am excited about ROTJ:R and ANH:R(HD) getting started. ESB:R was great, well done, and good use of a “special edition” star wars. ESB was/is my favorite and you did it justice. So I know you will do great with this and ANH:R(HD)! (Some MINOR things needs to be changed from your ANH:R, and it will be gold like ESB:R!)

From your original post, I like everything you are planning on doing and am curious what else you will come up with! ROTJ is nostalgic and fun, but compared to the other movies, it does have some issues that I look forward to you “fixing” or “adjusting.”

As a Boba Fett fan, I would love some touch up on him and his fate … Even if its something as “simple” as something like that fan made teaser trailer back in the day with the Boba Fett movie was being planned by disney.

(for those who didn’t see it: https://vimeo.com/137925493) It can be something short and needs no dialogue …

But whatever is done or not done, it will not disappoint me since your work is great!

For the battle of Endor, the Ewoks showing the back way is good. Even the “surprise” attack at the beginning of the battle is ok … since the element of surprise is effective at least at the very beginning of the battle against technically advance enemies. Making your own shots of rebels shooting/attacking the imperial troops would make it a battle instead of what should have been a slaughter for imperial troops/atst against little bears with stone weapons. (I love my ewoks, don’t get me wrong…)

Maybe troops land by use of a quick scene of a/some U-wings for the addition troops? Would tie in Rogue One a bit.

Other than that, that’s my thinking outside of what Ady stated at the beginning of his thread.

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doubleofive said:

I believe our Rogue Leader has a whole battalion of troops waiting.

Haha, well if the strike team ever needs reinforcements I’d love to apply, even if it was just to lug the equipment around. I think it would be great for someone to document the process throughout the project as well. I’m sure it’s already been discussed though.

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ben_danger said:

I imagine you’ve seen all these already ADY, but others who haven’t been on the forum so long may have not seen them.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B3yF2t_dm8BXUHNrY2wwMHNoa1E?usp=sharing

Years ago a member called SSWR made a bunch of small, yet effective, edit ideas. I didn’t manage to get hold of all of them before he took them offline, but there are some nice small ideas for ROTJ.

I have to say, these are really great mockups, and make changes seem remarkably feasible.

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Just thought I’d bring this across from the unofficial REVISITED suggestion thread.

I’ve read numerous posts in regards to removing Boba Fett from Jabba’s Palace during Jedi. While I understand the reasoning for this, I think it would be more interesting if he was their waiting for Luke to attempt a rescue Han.

After Luke arrives, Boba Fett can inform Vader that Luke is at Jabba’s Palace. I would probably place this after Luke has killed the Rancor, but before him and Han are reunited:

INT. DEATHSTAR. VADERS CHAMBERS

VADER sits in his mediation chamber. BOBA FETT appears on the view screen.

VADER:
What is it, bounty hunter.

FETT:
Skywalker is here.

VADER:
See to it that he remains there.

Vader leaves the Death Star aboard his shuttle.

Then I would place this after the barge explosion and falcon/ x-wing leaving Tatooine:

Vader can then arrive and enter through the main gates of the palace (mirroring Lukes entrance), however he snaps the necks of the guards using the force, and finds the palace practically empty. This would be after the barge explodes and skiff zooms away…

To me ROTJ has always felt a like a film of two somewhat disconnected halves, I think this would go a long way to remedying that.

Another idea for ROTJ would be to have C-3PO inform Han that the Ewoks were already preparing an assault on the Imperial base, therefore their weapons and traps are justified (I know this is something that bothers a lot of people.)

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TK42-WAN said:

Just thought I’d bring this across from the unofficial REVISITED suggestion thread.

I’ve read numerous posts in regards to removing Boba Fett from Jabba’s Palace during Jedi. While I understand the reasoning for this, I think it would be more interesting if he was their waiting for Luke to attempt a rescue Han.

After Luke arrives, Boba Fett can inform Vader that Luke is at Jabba’s Palace. I would probably place this after Luke has killed the Rancor, but before him and Han are reunited:

INT. DEATHSTAR. VADERS CHAMBERS

VADER sits in his mediation chamber. BOBA FETT appears on the view screen.

VADER:
What is it, bounty hunter.

FETT:
Skywalker is here.

VADER:
See to it that he remains there.

Vader leaves the Death Star aboard his shuttle.

Then I would place this after the barge explosion and falcon/ x-wing leaving Tatooine:

Vader can then arrive and enter through the main gates of the palace (mirroring Lukes entrance), however he snaps the necks of the guards using the force, and finds the palace practically empty. This would be after the barge explodes and skiff zooms away…

To me ROTJ has always felt a like a film of two somewhat disconnected halves, I think this would go a long way to remedying that.

Another idea for ROTJ would be to have C-3PO inform Han that the Ewoks were already preparing an assault on the Imperial base, therefore their weapons and traps are justified (I know this is something that bothers a lot of people.)

That sounds very interesting and I understand the reasoning behind it. Now, how feasible that is to implement, that would help tie it all in. Also it flows with Vader’s drive of seeking out Luke, like in ESB.

A small edit from that idea would be using the Executor and Vader’s chambers, instead of the intro of the death star 2.

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A small edit from that idea would be using the Executor and Vader’s chambers, instead of the intro of the death star 2.

Haha I had the same thought just as I reposted it, definitely makes more sense.

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I was sad to see that the PT:R is no more, but I’ll be extremely keen to see what Ady had in mind for it. I don’t want to put any pressure on him to change his mind; we should be more than grateful if he decided to pack it in now, and we’re still going to get two more (effectively) Revisiteds yet. But I do have an idea.

The Revisited project has become a collaborative project already; probably the biggest of all fan-edits in this regard by a considerable margin. I wonder if Ady might consider handing off the reins to someone else (005, perhaps? Ming?) to coordinate a group effort to realise his vision — after ROTJ:R and A:R:SE are finished, of course. I believe a sanctioned PT:R, “executive produced” if you like by Ady and following his plans and outlines (and with his definitive say to resolve disputes if necessary), would be much more likely to be successful than a bunch of competing solo attempts to match his work. I think we all underestimate how much work he’s put into this project, but I think together we might be able to get it done.

I’m on the other side of the world from most of the people here; my editing skills are extremely basic and I’ve no experience with VFX; my contribution would have to be in the area of planning and design. But I’d be eager to put my hand up as part of a group effort, if Adywan does decide to pass the lightsabre on.

Just putting it out there as a thought. I won’t say any more about this at this point, and if Ady rules it out then of course that would be that.

The Hobbit: Roadshow Edition

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jarbear said:

TK42-WAN said:

Just thought I’d bring this across from the unofficial REVISITED suggestion thread.

I’ve read numerous posts in regards to removing Boba Fett from Jabba’s Palace during Jedi. While I understand the reasoning for this, I think it would be more interesting if he was their waiting for Luke to attempt a rescue Han.

After Luke arrives, Boba Fett can inform Vader that Luke is at Jabba’s Palace. I would probably place this after Luke has killed the Rancor, but before him and Han are reunited:

INT. DEATHSTAR. VADERS CHAMBERS

VADER sits in his mediation chamber. BOBA FETT appears on the view screen.

VADER:
What is it, bounty hunter.

FETT:
Skywalker is here.

VADER:
See to it that he remains there.

Vader leaves the Death Star aboard his shuttle.

Then I would place this after the barge explosion and falcon/ x-wing leaving Tatooine:

Vader can then arrive and enter through the main gates of the palace (mirroring Lukes entrance), however he snaps the necks of the guards using the force, and finds the palace practically empty. This would be after the barge explodes and skiff zooms away…

To me ROTJ has always felt a like a film of two somewhat disconnected halves, I think this would go a long way to remedying that.

Another idea for ROTJ would be to have C-3PO inform Han that the Ewoks were already preparing an assault on the Imperial base, therefore their weapons and traps are justified (I know this is something that bothers a lot of people.)

That sounds very interesting and I understand the reasoning behind it. Now, how feasible that is to implement, that would help tie it all in. Also it flows with Vader’s drive of seeking out Luke, like in ESB.

Well, Temuera Morrison is still alive if you need to record that line.

I’ll get my coat.

They told me they’d fixed it!

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RoccondilRinon said:

I was sad to see that the PT:R is no more, but I’ll be extremely keen to see what Any had in mind for it. I don’t want to put any pressure on him to change his mind; we should be more than grateful if he decided to pack it in now, and we’re still going to get two more (effectively) Revisiteds yet. But I do have an idea.

The Revisited project has become a collaborative project already; probably the biggest of all fan-edits in this regard by a considerable margin. I wonder if Ady might consider handing off the reins to someone else (005, perhaps? Ming?) to coordinate a group effort to realise his vision — after ROTJ:R and A:R:SE are finished, of course. I believe a sanctioned PT:R, “executive produced” if you like by Ady and following his plans and outlines (and with his definitive say to resolve disputes if necessary), would be much more likely to be successful than a bunch of competing solo attempts to match his work. I think we all underestimate how much work he’s put into this project, but I think together we might be able to get it done.

I’m on the other side of the world from most of the people here; my editing skills are extremely basic and I’ve no experience with VFX; my contribution would have to be in the area of planning and design. But I’d be eager to put my hand up as part of a group effort, if Adywan does decide to pass the lightsabre on.

My 2 cents:

Fan edits can and will continue, and I’d like to think Ady has considerably raised the bar quality-wise and other editors will take inspiration from him. However “Revisited” is Ady’s personal saga (notwithstanding the significant contributions of others) and, while the idea of a future collaborative edit with the many talented people in this forum is quite exciting, it should not be associated with the name “Revisited”.

They told me they’d fixed it!

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Since Ady is replacing the Tydirium with a cargo ship, how about one that is much bigger. Then it could hold a couple hundred rebel troopers. These could be the troops that defeat the imperial ground forces with just a little help from the ewoks.

It would be cool to see a shot of the rebel troops on route to endor strapped in like the drop ship scene from Aliens.

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DarthXenu said:

Since Ady is replacing the Tydirium with a cargo ship, how about one that is much bigger. Then it could hold a couple hundred rebel troopers. These could be the troops that defeat the imperial ground forces with just a little help from the ewoks.

It would be cool to see a shot of the rebel troops on route to endor strapped in like the drop ship scene from Aliens.

“We have stolen a small Imperial shuttle.”

They told me they’d fixed it!

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trimboNZ said:

DarthXenu said:

Since Ady is replacing the Tydirium with a cargo ship, how about one that is much bigger. Then it could hold a couple hundred rebel troopers. These could be the troops that defeat the imperial ground forces with just a little help from the ewoks.

It would be cool to see a shot of the rebel troops on route to endor strapped in like the drop ship scene from Aliens.

“We have stolen a small Imperial shuttle.”

Maybe the empire would consider a shuttle that can only carry 200 as small.

However, if the line needs changing to remove the word small, I am sure that could be done.

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Is anyone else bothered by the carbonite thawing? I’m not just talking about the effects, but also the body mold imprint that Harrison Ford fell out of. I always felt that it wasn’t very form fitting and that the “hole” was too large for Harrison. When all parts are taken as a whole, I don’t feel that the scene has aged particularly well.

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nhoj3 said:

Is anyone else bothered by the carbonite thawing? I’m not just talking about the effects, but also the body mold imprint that Harrison Ford fell out of. I always felt that it wasn’t very form fitting and that the “hole” was too large for Harrison. When all parts are taken as a whole, I don’t feel that the scene has aged particularly well.

That scene bothers me more because Boushh (Leia) lets Han fall out of the encasement straight onto the hard floor. I guess one could rationalize it by saying he needed a solid jolt to start his heart again, but it still seems rather… brutal.

They told me they’d fixed it!

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trimboNZ said:

nhoj3 said:

Is anyone else bothered by the carbonite thawing? I’m not just talking about the effects, but also the body mold imprint that Harrison Ford fell out of. I always felt that it wasn’t very form fitting and that the “hole” was too large for Harrison. When all parts are taken as a whole, I don’t feel that the scene has aged particularly well.

That scene bothers me more because Boushh (Leia) lets Han fall out of the encasement straight onto the hard floor. I guess one could rationalize it by saying he needed a solid jolt to start his heart again, but it still seems rather… brutal.

And now I’ll never be able to watch that scene without thinking about this. Dammit.

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My suggestion was only for an Adywan-approved project; I entirely agree that no one else’s project should carry the name “Revisited”. For that matter, there’s no reason a collaborative PT:R attempt would have to use the name if it was done with Ady’s approval, ideas and/or creative input.

Either way, it’d be quite a while off, even if ROTJ:R comes faster than anyone expects. I don’t want this to derail the thread; it was just food for thought.

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RoccondilRinon said:

My suggestion was only for an Adywan-approved project; I entirely agree that no one else’s project should carry the name “Revisited”. For that matter, there’s no reason a collaborative PT:R attempt would have to use the name if it was done with Ady’s approval, ideas and/or creative input.

Either way, it’d be quite a while off, even if ROTJ:R comes faster than anyone expects. I don’t want this to derail the thread; it was just food for thought.

I mean… Adywan doesn’t own the word “Revisited” or anything but yeah, I guess someone more passionate could do that. There are, however, several editors working on some pretty radical edits of the prequels already, I’d also check those out. There’s also some really mind-blowing suggestions in this thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Prequel-Radical-Redux-Ideas-Thread/id/9911

Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329

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Can Madine’s awful glued-on peach fuzz beard be erased? 😄

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TK42-WAN said:

Just thought I’d bring this across from the unofficial REVISITED suggestion thread.

I’ve read numerous posts in regards to removing Boba Fett from Jabba’s Palace during Jedi. While I understand the reasoning for this, I think it would be more interesting if he was their waiting for Luke to attempt a rescue Han.

After Luke arrives, Boba Fett can inform Vader that Luke is at Jabba’s Palace. I would probably place this after Luke has killed the Rancor, but before him and Han are reunited:

INT. DEATHSTAR. VADERS CHAMBERS

Vader leaves the Death Star aboard his shuttle.
Then I would place this after the barge explosion and falcon/ x-wing leaving Tatooine:
Vader can then arrive and enter through the main gates of the palace (mirroring Lukes entrance), however he snaps the necks of the guards using the force, and finds the palace practically empty. This would be after the barge explodes and skiff zooms away…

Another idea for ROTJ would be to have C-3PO inform Han that the Ewoks were already preparing an assault on the Imperial base, therefore their weapons and traps are justified (I know this is something that bothers a lot of people.)

Vader was ordered by the Emperor to make sure that the Death Star is operational, by the time the rebel fleet arrives.
He can’t leave. He must obay his master.
He might send some troups though, if he has any at his disposal mind you, since the legions are stationed on the Endor moon, waiting for the rebels.
Plus the Emperor knows that Skywalker will come to Vader, and he tells this to Vader exactly when he needs to. When Vader’s job is done on the Death Star, and has some time to kill before the rebels arrive.
So logically, Vader is not going anywhere.

The Threepio idea is really good, and would fill the gaping whole in the story, but as the Emperor asked Vader:
Can it be done?

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“Plus the Emperor knows that Skywalker will come to Vader, and he tells this to Vader exactly when he needs to.”

I think this is incorrect. The emporer doesn’t know Luke is there until Vader tells him he felt his presence. Then he tells him to go to endor. And he has for seen it, he is bsing Vader to make it seem like it is part of his plan.

Side note on Boba fett… wouldn’t that guy recognize Luke at Jabbas and relay to Jabba that the empire wants him bad, probably a pretty hefty price on his head.

My fan edit ideas
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Return-of-the-Sith-Revenge-of-the-Jedi-by-marduk666/id/17356

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Around 1h49m55s (Harmy), there’s a shot of a TIE Fighter crashing into a Star Destroyer, and every time I watch RotJ, I expect it to hit the Star Destroyer and leave a TIE-Fighter-shaped mark on it. But it blows up before it hits it. Can this be done?

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marduk666 said:

“Plus the Emperor knows that Skywalker will come to Vader, and he tells this to Vader exactly when he needs to.”

I think this is incorrect. The emporer doesn’t know Luke is there until Vader tells him he felt his presence. Then he tells him to go to endor. And he has for seen it, he is bsing Vader to make it seem like it is part of his plan.

Side note on Boba fett… wouldn’t that guy recognize Luke at Jabbas and relay to Jabba that the empire wants him bad, probably a pretty hefty price on his head.

He doesn’t know where Luke is, all he knows he is coming to visit Vader.
" – You’ve done well Lord Vader. And now I sense you wish to continue your searc hfor young Skywalker.
– Yes my Master.
– Patience my friend. In time he will seek you out. And when he does, you must bring him before me. …"

That is a good observation on Boba Fett. The question is what Jabba cares about. Prize money, or revenge. I’d bet on the latter.

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Boba Fett is a bounty hunter, he works for credits.

He would know Vader/Empire wants Luke based on the events of Cloud City. So it would be financially practical for him to go straight to the empire/vader with that info. He has credit with Vader, so there could be an “open” communication, or at least Vader would either take Fett’s calls or take the information seriously.

But that is also a good point Vader would not leave the Death Star II to search for Luke based on the Emperor’s orders.

Hmmm this one is a thinker.