Been a long time since I posted here (Firefox refuses to log me in for some reason).
Anyway. Love the escape clip! But in one of the shoots the sky is moving to the right and in all the other shoots it is moving to the left.
Am I missing something?
Screenies:
i can't stop looking at the flyby shot of the gantry, and get goosebumps every time.
what would people think to inserting a small shot during the duel, from a distance?
maybe not from such a distance, and would probably work only as they exited the building part.
Well I don't have those moving shots in front of me right now, but since the camera is looking the other way, it's understandable the sky is moving... the other way.
Zak said:
Been a long time since I posted here (Firefox refuses to log me in for some reason).
Anyway. Love the escape clip! But in one of the shoots the sky is moving to the right and in all the other shoots it is moving to the left.
Am I missing something?
Screenies:
It's because they're reverse angles. For instance, if you face north, the sky is moving to your right, but if you face south, it is moving to the left, yet the fact is it's moving east regardless of which way you face.
-NJM
Double post.
But if we assume that the sky is moving let's say, east in the first shoot than it is not moving east in the second (in the video). There sky changes the direction it's moving in. I could be wrong but it looks like this (excuse the crude image):
Aside from when there's a storm, when do clouds swirl around in a circle?
-NJM
Well they don't. I couldn't fit the line so I curved it. :P
Guys, I really don't think the sky is that big of a deal. To be honest, I never even noticed it. :)
EyeShotFirst said:
Adywan has a bad migraine and is experiencing what I hope is "temporary" blindness.
Yes, that was really scary. I get rarely get migraines but when i do it knocks me for six but i've never had the blindness issue happen before. Still being knocked about by the migraines though, which is odd, and haven't been out of bed much in the past few days.
AuggieBenDoggie said:
Just curious though, but the part where Lando addresses the city, and we cut to the SE shot of the crowd outside listening, the over all contrast of that scene seems to be a little bit on the light side. Now I don't know how much real-time passes between that moment, up until we see Lando and company blast off in the Falcon, I'm guessing just a couple of mineuts. If it is just a few mineuts, shouldn't contrast of crowd listening to lando address the city be pretty much the same as when the Falcon blasts off?
Just an observation thats all....
I think that there is a large part of time that passes between Lando's address and them reaching the Falcon. This is how i see it: The first door they go to when he addresses the city is where Lando's ship is docked. But they can't get to it so Lando then decides to head for the Falcon, which is in a different part of the city. Now he's only just addressed the city but in the next shot we see people running with some of their belongings. A bit too quick for them to have heard the announcement, gathered their stuff and started escaping, to be happening immediately after the announcement.
DarthBo said:
Is he also removing the center window?
I really don't know what they were going for in the original version. if the outer rings are supposed to show the sky then why on earth did they paint the centre circle blue? This only caused confusion for a lot of people and made it look like a mismatched bluescreen element that was supposed to be the sky. This is one thing i'm actually glad they changed in the SE, even though the rotoscoping wasn't too good. But i won't be returning it to a solid space even with the shadow problem as the GOUT is really bad quality in this shot as i found out when trying to combine the 2004 with the GOUT for this shot for my Theatrical version. There are unfortunately no good shots of this set so you can see the exact structure so its all guess work really. I did find a small pic in the Art of ESB book that shows a little extra
It looks like there is a centre cylindrical structure that rises from blue circle in the roof.
Many of the structures/ sets make no logical sense throughout the film. Scales are wrong, positions and outsides incompatible. So i've decided not to bother with all that stuff. It's just too much of a headache to even attempt to fix.
ben_danger said:
i can't stop looking at the flyby shot of the gantry, and get goosebumps every time.
what would people think to inserting a small shot during the duel, from a distance?
maybe not from such a distance, and would probably work only as they exited the building part.
An interesting idea but i don't think we really need another faraway shot as we really need to stay close to the action during this scene
Zak said:
But if we assume that the sky is moving let's say, east in the first shoot than it is not moving east in the second (in the video). There sky changes the direction it's moving in. I could be wrong but it looks like this (excuse the crude image):
I've never known a sky move in a direction like that. Here's my interpretation of your pic that shows that there is nothing wrong with the cloud movement between shots.
Now an easy way to prove this is this:
Go outside on a cloudy day, not a stormy day, when you can clearly see the clouds moving. Now you need to stand in a potion that you can see the clouds both in front and behind you. Now stand so that the clouds are moving in your vision from left to right (as they are in the first shot) now turn exactly 180 degrees and now you can see that the clouds are moving from right to left.
Sorry to hear about the migraines, Ady. I've never had one (thankfully), but I get incredibly bad ice cream headaches on occasion that attack the area around my eyes, and I've heard that migraines can be like that. So I definitely sympathize. :p I'm actually having to go for a CAT scan in a couple of weeks to try and figure out what this pressure is in my head. I'm hoping it's not vision-related. Maybe you had pressue in your eyes to the point where they pretty much blacked out?
I've never known a sky move in a direction like that. Here's my interpretation of your pic that shows that there is nothing wrong with the cloud movement between shots.
Now an easy way to prove this is this:
Go outside on a cloudy day, not a stormy day, when you can clearly see the clouds moving. Now you need to stand in a potion that you can see the clouds both in front and behind you. Now stand so that the clouds are moving in your vision from left to right (as they are in the first shot) now turn exactly 180 degrees and now you can see that the clouds are moving from right to left.
A... yes... quite right, quite right.
Sorry about the migraines. Did you see a doctor?
After watching the escape clip a few times, I began to wonder what door they were trying to get into when R2 plugs into the power socket. I was going to ask what you thought it was. It being the door to Lando's ship makes sense. Thanks!
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Well I don't believe this has been mentioned before (been reading the thread for about 2 years), but I was watching this wonderful theatrical reconstruction and I came across this:
If you look on the left of the picture, you can see... Lando. But was he not gone to open the top hatch? Has it been already fixed, or was it never noticed before? x)
Take care, Adywan... you're our only hope! :-D
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Bewy said:
Well I don't believe this has been mentioned before (been reading the thread for about 2 years), but I was watching this wonderful theatrical reconstruction and I came across this:
If you look on the left of the picture, you can see... Lando. But was he not gone to open the top hatch? Has it been already fixed, or was it never noticed before? x)
yeh that's been fixed.
Have you also noticed that it's a flipped shot. Just look at the door in the background in the original shot. The lights are on the incorrect side of the sliver panel. As you can see, that's been fixed also :)
Huh... interesting. I always liked that Leia was in the captain's seat, but I guess Chewie was the one actually sitting there on set.
To echo what Zak said, have you or will you be seeing a doctor about the migraines/vision loss? Sounds too serious to brush off.
Take care of yourself man. I hope you feel better soon.
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I third the recommendation of seeing a doctor, if your healthcare options are open.
Migraines like what you've had before would be one thing, but going blind for six hours and them lasting longer than usual? That would make me, at least, want to know what's going on inside my skull.
Or perhaps my addiction to films have taught me that all such instances are foreshadowing. :p
Hello,
As a long-time reader, but first time poster, I felt compelled to add my voice to those encouraging Adywan to see a doctor. In some people migraines can of course be associated with temporary sight issues, including seeing coloured 'auras' and even temporary loss of vision.
Hopefully what Adywan had was nothing more than a particularly bad attack of this sort with no long term adverse effects and with no underlying more serious medical cause. However, if it was me, I would certainly feel it worthwhile to have a medical expert check me out and give me the all-clear, if only for my own peace of mind.
Adywan, your work here is amazing; as skillfully and expertly done as it is massively appreciated by stunned, grateful Star Wars fans such as myself. 'ANH: Revisited' was a triumph and instantly became my preferred version of that film, easily surpassing any and all of the official versions. I have no doubts whatsoever that 'ESB: Revisited' will attain the same status in my heart with respect to Empire...
However, your health comes first! Please look after yourself and do what's best for you.
Kind regards,
Snaketibe
adywan said:
yeh that's been fixed.
Have you also noticed that it's a flipped shot. Just look at the door in the background in the original shot. The lights are on the incorrect side of the sliver panel. As you can see, that's been fixed also :)
You just notice everything don't you x)
Snaketibe said:
Hello,
As a long-time reader, but first time poster, I felt compelled to add my voice to those encouraging Adywan to see a doctor. In some people migraines can of course be associated with temporary sight issues, including seeing coloured 'auras' and even temporary loss of vision.
Hopefully what Adywan had was nothing more than a particularly bad attack of this sort with no long term adverse effects and with no underlying more serious medical cause. However, if it was me, I would certainly feel it worthwhile to have a medical expert check me out and give me the all-clear, if only for my own peace of mind.
Adywan, your work here is amazing; as skillfully and expertly done as it is massively appreciated by stunned, grateful Star Wars fans such as myself. 'ANH: Revisited' was a triumph and instantly became my preferred version of that film, easily surpassing any and all of the official versions. I have no doubts whatsoever that 'ESB: Revisited' will attain the same status in my heart with respect to Empire...
However, your health comes first! Please look after yourself and do what's best for you.
Kind regards,
Snaketibe
Wow. Good post.
I assume you manage to erase 3po being behind chewie in the next shot :)
I assume is a reused or missing footage from the asteroid chase :)
See this approach too :)
-Angel
vaderios said:
I assume you manage to erase 3po being behind chewie in the next shot :)
I assume is a reused or missing footage from the asteroid chase :)
See this approach too :)
-Angel
And on the very left of the picture, isn't there a starfield or sky that should be there, by the glass of the cockpit? :P
Love that new mockup, vaderios! So simple and effective. I think I like that even more than it being open in the middle! :) And that extra shadow can just be some sort of antenna on the roof.
