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I know I said I was going to stay out of this for awhile, but I couldn't help popping back in for a brief comment (was reading some of the old posts). ;)

 

I know the red tinted AT-AT cockpit controversy is long over, but I am thinking now PERHAPS the reason it was the way it was, could be explained by the windshield "reflecting" the red turbo laser it was firing in the shot? Sort of like how in ANH:R we have craft and turrets "lightning up" briefly with the glow of the shot fired.


Maybe not a perfect explanation, but if that's all it is, I can see why removing it as a "permanent" red screen made the most sense.

 

I also never answered somebody's question about a post-credits sequence. Looks like that's not happening in this edit but I believe it was the Darth Editious/ADM hybrid edit of ANH that had a sequence after the credits which was basically a reworked version of the Asteroid field hologram scene from ESB. It was a cool idea for that edit, anyhow.


PS: I'm digging the light blue TIEs in the ESB "Theatrical Reconstruction."

 

MTFBWY (and happy 30th, ESB!)

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Wow...that is bloody brilliant, Ady. Wasn't expecting another clip, but grateful for the surprise, and floored by how good this shot is looking.

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I know it's a strange request, but could we possibly get a split-screen version as a bonus disc, with the Revisited cut and the 2004 DVD, just as a comparison?

At least for me it would be a lot o fun to watch with friends, and admire every minute detail that may otherwise escape our attention... :)

The new clip looks great!

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If it wasn't done [by anyone] for ANH:R, I don't see it being done for ESB:R. But I'm sure he'd allow someone else to do it. But I think there were reasons why it wasn't done. (large sections of the 2004 version, such as the Jabba scene, being represented by nothingness in the ANH:R version, for example?)

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there are also dozens of tiny cuts and rearrangements that wouldn't show the differences as each video would have to be blanked at different times frames apart.

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I love checking in on this thread and finding that a new video or screen cap has been posted :)  Thanks for the extra surprise Ady... the clip looks really good.  How'd you accomplish it exactly?

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corellian77 said:

 How'd you accomplish it exactly?

3D camera projection?

 

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Whoa, that one change adds SO much to the shot!  Seeing it as a true 3D structure makes it so much more real, looking at the very end and knowing what's about to go on there in a matter of minutes... excellent, Adywan!

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Like I commented on YouTube, this adds a three dimensional depth to the shot.  Before, it was just a flat zoom in on the gantry, but now, it's an actual camera push in on it.  One of my gripes with the prequel cinematography is all the zoom ins.  I get George was going for an old 30s or 40s style, but no cinematographer would recommend doing that kind of thing.  While I have done the zoom in thing when I've been shooting my own films, it's only because I don't have a dolly track to do ths kind of camera move.  This demonstrates the added depth of field and quality of a push in over a zoom.

-NJM

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Nice 1 Ady, this is gonna be 1 hell of a movie, (thanks again DE for your proof of concept)

J

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Burdokva said:

I know it's a strange request, but could we possibly get a split-screen version as a bonus disc, with the Revisited cut and the 2004 DVD, just as a comparison?

Given all the "minor" things like a complete recolouring of everything, I don't think this would be feasable. You've probably also got the issue that Ady would then be distributing the original published material; Lucasfilm/MPAA might not appreciate that.

At best, a short comparison of some effects should be considered.

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Ady did do a visual effects multi-angle comparison feature on the DL ANH:R.  That's the most you should expect with ESB:R.

-NJM

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Jaitea said:


Nice 1 Ady, this is gonna be 1 hell of a movie, (thanks again DE for your proof of concept)

J


Eh, you're welcome, though that was actually my final version *miffed* ;)

DE

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Sorceror said:

You've probably also got the issue that Ady would then be distributing the original published material; Lucasfilm/MPAA might not appreciate that.

I know what you're getting at, but do you think color correcting and adding/fixing stuff at home makes it not the original published material? He doesn't own them. They could shut him down any time they felt like it. (what would someone say? 'You'll be hearing from my lawyers, Lucasfilm!'? Heh.) We're just glad they haven't said/done anything in this regard. There have been a lot of straight laserdisc transfers and stuff as well which they've never said anything about. There have even been other split-screen comparison versions made.

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Frankly, I'd sooner prefer Ady spend his time prepping ROTJ:R than slaving over a full length split screen comparison edition of the ESB.

-NJM

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Burdokva said:

I know it's a strange request, but could we possibly get a split-screen version as a bonus disc, with the Revisited cut and the 2004 DVD, just as a comparison?

The only way to ensure you get something is to do it yourself.

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Darth Editous said:

 

Jaitea said:


Nice 1 Ady, this is gonna be 1 hell of a movie, (thanks again DE for your proof of concept)

J


Eh, you're welcome, though that was actually my final version *miffed* ;)

DE

 

I've only ever seen the preview test one you did ages ago and i didn't know you had a finished version. Do you have a link to it?

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I was thinking about the suggestion of having the probot shooting at Rebels earlier.

When Chewie pops his head up the probe droid fires at him and only self destructs when Han fires at it.

It's possible that it confused Chewie with a Wampa so perhaps it would make sense to have it encounter a Wampa instead (the reaction in the base would be the same and Ady has a Wampa on the go).

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Whoa....really nice addition Ady. Great collaborative effort. It's a fine example of a small change that just adds a nice subtle touch. Thanks as always for sharing.

Speaking of little changes....a while back I suggested maybe when Vader uses the force & starts throwing things at Luke during their fight perhaps the objects could spark a bit as though they are being torn from their place...(something like when Vader goes nuts at the end of ROTS) might you be doing something like that?

 

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DF Shadow said:

Whoa....really nice addition Ady. Great collaborative effort. It's a fine example of a small change that just adds a nice subtle touch. Thanks as always for sharing.

All the hangar mattes will be replaced with props and models and that goes there ESB and ROTJ Wishlist

 

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Thanks...lol I actually changed q's while you were answering.

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Ripplin said:

Sorceror said:

You've probably also got the issue that Ady would then be distributing the original published material; Lucasfilm/MPAA might not appreciate that.

I know what you're getting at, but do you think color correcting and adding/fixing stuff at home makes it not the original published material? He doesn't own them. They could shut him down any time they felt like it. (what would someone say? 'You'll be hearing from my lawyers, Lucasfilm!'? Heh.) We're just glad they haven't said/done anything in this regard.

There's a difference between distributing modified footage with the disclaimer "you must own the original" and distributing the original footage.

After watching the special features on Robot Chicken Star Wars I & II, as well as Blue Harvest and Something Something Something Dark Side, I think if Adywan contacted George Lucas, the response would be "let's sell it".

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adywan said:


I've only ever seen the preview test one you did ages ago and i didn't know you had a finished version. Do you have a link to it?


Hmm, don't seem to remember owning a droid... I mean remember showing a clip I called a preview... anyway http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1TQ11frJ0A was pretty much finalised as far I'm concerned (though it'll need HDing for any new release I make). Comparison version is there as a response.

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Jeyl said:

So.....the blank shells stay?

As Kurgan said they add more realism. It makes the guns look like they are actually firing, which is more than can be said about the PT blasters. God, when Natalie portman is firing the blaster in AOTC it looks like she just can't be bothered to put any effort into it and it makes all the blaster battles look totally fake. So the shells will be staying.

elmshield said:

hey just been catching up and saw the new clip.  impressive..

just happens to be the one part in the film i've posted on previously - i suggested that once lando put out the warning it should go onto a continuous repeat so if you were, let's say....drying your hair or hammering a nail in something.. you may have missed what is quite an important, yet short message.  it would make sense to put it on repeat.  it could just be going on in the background while chewie kills lots of stormtroopers.

the last time i mentioned this, my post was lost in what was quite a heated debate about copyright issues and was ignored by all.  just a good time to mention it again i think.

unless you all think it's a rubbish idea.  if that's the case, then feel free to ignore it again!  :oD

really looking forward to seeing the full film.

I think it would be a distraction to have the same short message repeated over and over, even if it is in the background. It would become very irritating after a while and the focus should be on whats happening in the scene and not something going on in the background.

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Seriously, there is no reason to kill off anyone in ROTJ.  The MAIN CHARACTER OF THE ENTIRE SAGA dies... isn' t that enough? Luke has just lost his father, I think he's lost enough for one movie. 

Well Vader was not one of the heros of the OT saga and it would have added something to  ROTJ if one of the main characters was killed off, which that film really needed something. Harrison Ford wanted it to be Han early on in the movie and then there was suggestions that it should be Lando. I'm actually all for someone killing off one of the heroes in ROTJ, so maybe i wasn't joking after all;)

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Nicholas J. Michalak said:

Ady, mind if I ask a technical question?  How do you go about draining all those blue hues out of the film?  I've tried everything I have in Final Cut Pro.  Is it something that can be done in an NLE, or do you have to run through it a separate program?  I ask because I'd like to do this with my prequel edits.  Thanks much.

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I did a first pass colour correction in Sony Vegas and then switched to After Effects to do the bulk of it. I use the Hue/saturation filter which lets you control the levels for each colour separately, which is invaluable when working on one of the 2004 transfers.  But i had to do a lot of masking of areas to retain a colour where in other areas of a shot it needed to be altered or removed. I'll be moving the whole part of the colour correction over to after effects now as it does have a lot more control

thorr said:

Are there any plans to remove the lines on the ground when C3PO is dragged by R2D2?  I am sure this has been brought up before, but I just saw the new clip and nothing appears to be done with it.  This always took me out of the experience and reminded me I was watching a movie because I felt like they did that shot several times to get it right and every time they attempted the shot, they left a groove mark.

Great clip though!

Mike

You can't see the lines until 3P0 is being dragged over the top of them so i have never been able to see why a lot of people think this is a mistake and something that needs fixing. Looking at that shot frame by frame it does indeed look like that 3P0 is making those scratch marks and they were not there before. So no fix needed here

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adywan said:


I've only ever seen the preview test one you did ages ago and i didn't know you had a finished version. Do you have a link to it?


Hmm, don't seem to remember owning a droid... I mean remember showing a clip I called a preview... anyway http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1TQ11frJ0A was pretty much finalised as far I'm concerned (though it'll need HDing for any new release I make). Comparison version is there as a response.

DE

Sorry, i though i remembered you or someone saying it was a preview/test shot, but i guess that was 4 years ago now

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