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Ok, watching Empire on Spike just now and I noticed something else that can be fixed - not an error, just an "improvement suggestion".

When Luke goes out the window during the final duel, in the shot immediately before, his saber is still on and in his hand.  In the shot after, he's hanging onto the ledge and the saber is powered off and sitting at the bottom left.  Is there a way to animate a saber powering down and tumbling out the window along side him?

I'm sure Vaderios or someone else can whip up a before/after to show what I mean.

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vaderios said:

Well there is no hilt at all in that shot.

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The lightsaber should be in Luke's hand at this point- he only loses it when his hand gets cut off.

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i check it like i said. he doesnt holds nothing.

And as we know in the next shot the saber is landed on the bridge. So luke misses his saber for a while :)

 

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That's what I mean.  Add it in as if it blew out of his hand and it's mixed in with the debris that's blowing out the window.

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That's what I mean.  Add it in as if it blew out of his hand and it's mixed in with the debris that's blowing out the window.

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Ziz said:

That's what I mean.  Add it in as if it blew out of his hand and it's mixed in with the debris that's blowing out the window.

Right: after Luke gets blown out the window, he grabs onto this bridge/catwalk-- his lightsaber is still no where to be found.

 

Next scene, he has it again.

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Watch from 3:40 to 4:20 here to see what we're talking about.

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Enigmas said:

Ziz said:

That's what I mean.  Add it in as if it blew out of his hand and it's mixed in with the debris that's blowing out the window.

Right: after Luke gets blown out the window, he grabs onto this bridge/catwalk-- his lightsaber is still no where to be found.

 

Next scene, he has it again.

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take a look more closely and you can see that his lightsaber is on the ledge, so he does lose it .

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adywan said:

take a look more closely and you can see that his lightsaber is on the ledge, so he does lose it .

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It could make some sense to show some falling debris (behind luke)  in that shot.

Like we are trying to add some depth.


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Davnes007 said:

Lit eSbare

Just thought I'd post this again, seeing as this topic is brought up again.

It wouldn't be lit because sabers are supposed to have a "dead man switch" - they turn off when you let go of them.  Exception would be when Vader throws his saber at the gantry Luke is on in Jedi, but there you can say that Vader is using the force to keep pressure on the switch so he can throw it.  Any other time we see someone lose their saber - Vader killing Obi on the DS, Vader disarming Luke in the carbon chamber, Maul killing Qui on Naboo - the saber powers off when the user lets go of the hilt.

But, my point remains that it can be shown going out the window with Luke powering off as it goes, since the blade retracts upon power down...it doesn't instantly disappear.  That allows us to have a visual of the saber going out the window that also makes sense in the way sabers operate.

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I think Dave lit it so it could be seen with more ease and as a joke (his video mockups usually have at least one hidden gag in there somewhere).

It's straight out of Ric Olie's scrapbook (Ric you should turn your thread into a scrapbook it's such an obvious idea I'm surprised you haven't mentioned it yet).

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Bingowings said:

I think Dave lit it so it could be seen with more ease and as a joke (his video mockups usually have at least one hidden gag in there somewhere).

It's straight out of Ric Olie's scrapbook (Ric you should turn your thread into a scrapbook it's such an obvious idea I'm surprised you haven't mentioned it yet).

Ric Olie is confused.

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Ric Olie said:

Bingowings said:

I think Dave lit it so it could be seen with more ease and as a joke (his video mockups usually have at least one hidden gag in there somewhere).

It's straight out of Ric Olie's scrapbook (Ric you should turn your thread into a scrapbook it's such an obvious idea I'm surprised you haven't mentioned it yet).

Ric Olie is confused.

I think he's refering to my pic (with the arrow pointing at the lit lightsaber), and it's similar to you being there, saying "Hey, look...luke dropped his lightsaber, and it's still lit up".

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Davnes007 said:

Lit eSbare

Just thought I'd post this again, seeing as this topic is brought up again.

I agree on showing the debris that went out with Luke shown falling away towards the bottom of the shaft.. but on that note, shouldn't the shaft darken as it deepens?

         

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NL197 said:

Darth Chronus said:

Oh and a little off the point here - there was a guy in The Dark Knight who pointed out the most obvious things too (the cop that was with the 'undercover' Lt. Gordon). I wonder who played him. Hmmmm.....

Ric's probably his ancestor from a galaxy far away, lol :D

You mean Nicky Katt?

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ImperialFighter said:

adywan said:


ImperialFighter said:


I don't know if you've got round to working out what you want to do with this particular scene yet, but here's a possible solution to Luke's 'missing' Lightsaber as he crashes through the 'window' during his duel with Darth.

His sabre is already on the gantry in the birds eye shot so no fix needed for this (Oh and the pics posted are just for reference.  No colour correction has been done on these.  i just brightened them so you can see them better)
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Hands up all those in the world that didn't notice it there before.... (mine certainly is!) Throughout numerous viewings on various screens and displays in the past, I just didn't realise that was meant to be it, lol. Having checked both GOUT and SE releases, I find it is still not obvious as the Lightsaber due to it's position and shadowing. I always thought that particular object was an item with a 'hose'/'tubing' attachment lying there with the other debris, rather than the hilt lying ON TOP of 'hose'/tubing'....and obviously could have done with your yellow arrow in the past!

Ady, I am using a very nicely set up television screen with excellent colour, brightness and contrast levels adjusted, and the whole gantry walkway on the SE release is coloured/shadowed in such a way where the shadowed Lightsaber seems to merge into it too much to be obvious. It does seem more noticeable in your vibrantly-coloured shot above though, especially with that arrow! Even though this seems to be it, the shot is so brief that your eye is distracted by either the struggling Luke in the centre, or the flashing gantry light on the left.  I would ask you to consider moving it over a bit nearer where Luke is clinging on, which is the area viewers focus on, so that it's more easily seen as a stand-alone item. If you choose to leave it where it is, then I would ask that you perhaps 'bring it out' a bit from the shadowing and 'hose'/tubing' beside it.

I'd still love to see an added 'falling' Lightsaber deactivating near Luke as he goes backwards through the window though, so that it's easily identifiable amongst the debris during that brief shot....because it could be a very neat-looking, subtle addition to the proceedings, and help to more easily identify that it would be deactivated on the walkway seen in the 'birds-eye' shot.

And thanks for that, as I can now make the Lightsaber out! ;)

 

Adding a hint of a 'deactivating' saber was definately something I'd love to see too.  These were my thoughts from page 42 previously.

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ImperialFighter said:Adding a hint of a 'deactivating' saber was definately something I'd love to see too.  These were my thoughts from page 42 previously.

I think the shot is fine the way it is. The attention is focused on where it needs to be. Luke clinging to dear life!

If the deactivating saber needs to be put in, I like the idea of it happening when Luke gets sucked out the window

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pg 525 and we can still find things to argue about. amazing uh?

lets push for 600 pages!    ;)

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Jeyl said:

ImperialFighter said:Adding a hint of a 'deactivating' saber was definately something I'd love to see too.  These were my thoughts from page 42 previously.

I think the shot is fine the way it is. The attention is focused on where it needs to be. Luke clinging to dear life!

If the deactivating saber needs to be put in, I like the idea of it happening when Luke gets sucked out the window

 

Er....I think you'll see in the post I quoted, that I did say that I'd like to see it 'deactivating' during the shot that Luke goes backwards through the window....

To be honest, it wouldn't even need to be in the position where vaderios showed in his nice mock-up, but could even be a mere glimpse of the last remnant of the blade's deactivation added to a bit of the debris seen in the shot, seeing as the shot itself is so brief.  I don't even think a 'deactivation' sound effect is necessary as the wind howls so loudly during the shot it would be drowned out anyway.

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Monroville said:

 

shouldn't the shaft darken as it deepens?

That's what she said.

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ron2112 said:

Monroville said:

 

shouldn't the shaft darken as it deepens?

That's what she said.

LOL!

I've just finished reading the ENTIRE ANH:R thread, and boy am I envious of all you guys who were here when the finished project was unveiled. It's given me a renewed sense of excitement for when the same happens with this edit :)

I can't wait!

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brash_stryker said:



ron2112 said:


Monroville said:

 
shouldn't the shaft darken as it deepens?


That's what she said.


LOL!

I've just finished reading the ENTIRE ANH:R thread, and boy am I envious of all you guys who were here when the finished project was unveiled. It's given me a renewed sense of excitement for when the same happens with this edit :)

I can't wait!

I think I was here for the DVD5 release, but the entire concept was new to me, I was brought in by my curiosity. There was no anticipation for ANHR for me because I came in too late. I read through the whole thread shortly afterward and it made me appreciate the project a lot more. Seems to me that a lot more people have had suggestions for ESB and the edit seems a lot grander. "Anticipation" barely covers my feelings now for this project.

EDIT: This edit IS a lot grander. Just clarifying.

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