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Just to throw in one thing I didn't see mentioned about the galaxy shot (please forgive me if I missed it)... is there a reason they would be traveling intergalactically at that (or any) point in the story?  Presumably that's their galaxy (far, far away) and not some other galaxy, right?  I can't imagine there's a neighboring galaxy that close, or we would have seen it in countless shots throughout the trilogy.  How long would it take a ship, at Star Wars speeds, to get that far outside the galaxy?  And what would be the point?

 

Again, sorry if this has been covered.  I try to read every post, but I'm trying to have a life as well. ;)

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Whoops- ignore me.

 

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Darth Venal said:

He's not getting rid of the FX shot, just using a non-rotating version of it.

I haven't said i'm using a non rotating version.  I like the way it rotates

vaderios said:

Logicaly, the walls we see in the far shot are orange brown color. but in the close up they are white/lighter color.

What can be done to this shot anyway?

No idea if answered before

 

-Angel

It's already been fixed Angel :)

ron2112 said:

Just to throw in one thing I didn't see mentioned about the galaxy shot (please forgive me if I missed it)... is there a reason they would be traveling intergalactically at that (or any) point in the story?  Presumably that's their galaxy (far, far away) and not some other galaxy, right?  I can't imagine there's a neighboring galaxy that close, or we would have seen it in countless shots throughout the trilogy.  How long would it take a ship, at Star Wars speeds, to get that far outside the galaxy?  And what would be the point?

 

Again, sorry if this has been covered.  I try to read every post, but I'm trying to have a life as well. ;)

I like the idea that it is a forming star instead of galaxy. makes more sense to me.

 

 

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Well, either way, there is absolutely no way they travel outside their own galaxy, whether that phenomena is a galaxy or something much more local.

I really don't mind if it is a galaxy, because it's a nice romantic image, but it would have to be seen from other parts of the galaxy too, which of course we have never seen.

Adywan:

I haven't said i'm using a non rotating version.  I like the way it rotates

I was only quoting someone else, I didn't have any reason to think it wasn't true.

I'm glad you're keeping it rotating. As I said before, I wouldn't change that shot at all.

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adywan said:

It's already been fixed Angel :)

Holy Potato! You are the man Ady :D

 

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Darth Venal said:

Another problem with all this discussion about what the phenomena at the end of Empire is, is that we're evaluating it based on astronomical photography, which isn't really that reliable as it is rarely standard optical photography. However, that is the common conception of what interstellar phenomena look like, and perhaps the wisest choice artistically.

One of the physicists talking about it over on theforce.net says it can't be a galaxy because galaxies don't really look like that to the naked eye, which is what we're seeing in that scene. But he completely overlooks the fact that 99.9% of people sitting in a movie theatre won't have any idea that a spiral galaxy is substantially dimmer and actually pretty hard to see with the naked eye. Most of us think they're bright white (sometimes yellowish) with spiral arms around a bright bulbous centre, but that's not true.

Not that any of this matters a jot, as long as the image looks good on screen while not negatively impacting on the narrative.

 

My problem is, if we are to accept that a galaxy can be seen like that to the naked eye, then wouldn't that same galaxy be shown a LOT in all of the movies? It would be something you would always see if it were that close to the Star Wars galaxy, just as no matter which part of earth you're on you are able to see the sun.

However, as a forming star, it would only be visible if you were near it. Get far enough away and it can't be seen (or at least as noticeable) anymore. Sorta like seeing a car on the side of the road. Drive along far enough away and that car fades out of sight.

I hope I'm making sense... but that's why I choose to believe it is a forming star, and not some neighbor galaxy, billions of miles away, yet close enough to be in view from the galaxy where the story takes place.

EDIT: Nevermind... guess I should read the next page before typing up a reply.

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vaderios said:

Holy Potato! You are the man Ady :D

 

Agreed! :)

 

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adywan said:
Darth Venal said:

He's not getting rid of the FX shot, just using a non-rotating version of it.

I haven't said i'm using a non rotating version.  I like the way it rotates

vaderios said:

Logicaly, the walls we see in the far shot are orange brown color. but in the close up they are white/lighter color.

What can be done to this shot anyway?

No idea if answered before

 

-Angel

It's already been fixed Angel :)

ron2112 said:

Just to throw in one thing I didn't see mentioned about the galaxy shot (please forgive me if I missed it)... is there a reason they would be traveling intergalactically at that (or any) point in the story?  Presumably that's their galaxy (far, far away) and not some other galaxy, right?  I can't imagine there's a neighboring galaxy that close, or we would have seen it in countless shots throughout the trilogy.  How long would it take a ship, at Star Wars speeds, to get that far outside the galaxy?  And what would be the point?

 

Again, sorry if this has been covered.  I try to read every post, but I'm trying to have a life as well. ;)

I like the idea that it is a forming star instead of galaxy. makes more sense to me.

 

 

Hey dunno if its been mentioned but has anyone noticed that the first picture the door has black stripes and then on lando close ups they are more a dotted line?

 

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Adywan said :

It's already been fixed....

Just open the door you stupid lump!

DuTwan said: Hey dunno if its been mentioned but has anyone noticed that the first picture the door has black stripes and then on lando close ups they are more a dotted line?

Could call there!

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DuTwan said:
adywan said:
vaderios said:

Logicaly, the walls we see in the far shot are orange brown color. but in the close up they are white/lighter color.

What can be done to this shot anyway?

No idea if answered before

 

-Angel

It's already been fixed Angel :)

 

Hey dunno if its been mentioned but has anyone noticed that the first picture the door has black stripes and then on lando close ups they are more a dotted line?

 

I'm glad you're fixing it Adywan, I think there are other inconsistencies in the Bespin art, I'll try to get some screenshots.

Good point DuTwan!

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Angel Blue01 said:

I'm glad you're fixing it Adywan, I think there are other inconsistencies in the Bespin art, I'll try to get some screenshots.

 

Make sure that if already covered ;)

 

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Ripplin said:

I think it's just the way the light is hitting them, creating more shadow in the first instance.

But how much did the light change on those doors in those 20-30 seconds?  I think the long shot is all a matte painting, and they got the door wrong.

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Do we see those doors open? I think the wall is a matte painting, but if we see the doors open, then it's not.

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Darth Venal said:

Do we see those doors open? I think the wall is a matte painting, but if we see the doors open, then it's not.

So it is the same, real door.  The lighting brightens up considerably, but if it is sunrise as Ady as made it, then this all makes sense.

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Hey Ady,

How about you do something similar to Luke's hand. Come on it looks like crap LOL.

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Doubleofive:

So it is the same, real door.  The lighting brightens up considerably, but if it is sunrise as Ady as made it, then this all makes sense.

 

Well, sunrise or not, it wouldn't brighten up that quickly, unless it was the very moment the sun comes over the buildings and reaches that spot. But then, even if it's actually feasible, it has to look right in the movie. The walls really need to be the same colour throughout the scene.

Thanks for the screen caps, I thought I remembered that door opening.

 

Eyeshotfirst:

How about you do something similar to Luke's hand. Come on it looks like crap LOL.

 

The new hand looks dead, I'd recolour the prosthetic bit to look lifelike.

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EyeShotFirst said:

Hey Ady,

How about you do something similar to Luke's hand. Come on it looks like crap LOL.

This looks like another job for Ady's Hand!  It should have a cameo in every movie!

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doubleofive said:
Darth Venal said:

Do we see those doors open? I think the wall is a matte painting, but if we see the doors open, then it's not.

So it is the same, real door.  The lighting brightens up considerably, but if it is sunrise as Ady as made it, then this all makes sense.

 

 Gdgd thats ok then, wouldnt want a simple door to delay Adywan on ESB. One thing that i feel should be altered in that hairless guy's head piece thing, if i remember correctly isnt he a cyborg? maybe we could have the headpiece more flashy (flashy as in more technological rather than blinding stormtroopers)? Bit more like Vaders chest piece?

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doubleofive said:
EyeShotFirst said:

Hey Ady,

How about you do something similar to Luke's hand. Come on it looks like crap LOL.

This looks like another job for Ady's Hand!  It should have a cameo in every movie!

 

 Hey doubleofive maybe you could make those tubes glow a bit too? as if the tube is filled with the liquid makin the inside glow?

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DuTwan said:
doubleofive said:
EyeShotFirst said:

Hey Ady,

How about you do something similar to Luke's hand. Come on it looks like crap LOL.

This looks like another job for Ady's Hand!  It should have a cameo in every movie!

 Hey doubleofive maybe you could make those tubes glow a bit too? as if the tube is filled with the liquid makin the inside glow?

That's EyeShot's mockup, not mine.  I think they could glow, but it would be weird to install lights on something that goes INSIDE a person.

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