STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW — Page 424

As long as we're previewing covers, here's my series.

Star Wars is just a minor tweak of my original cover on the ANH:R DVD with new logos and Adywan is now credited as "Adrian Sayce".  The Empire Strikes Back is in its final state, and Return of the Jedi is now in a holding pattern as I am in need of a few screenshots from Ady's final version in order to complete it (and that will be a long time from now, lol). :)

adywan said:

Monroville said:

Maybe you could just replace the mountains and/or the AT-ATs, since those would be relatively more stationary than the ground itself.  Even if you didn't "replace" the AT-ATs with new model shots (or from different scenes) could the images of the AT-ATs themselves be worked a bit to appear less faded?

this is what's impossible about it. There are no definite points to track to add anything to the background. the camera is moving all over the place .the only way to fix these shots would be for all outside cockpit elements to be brand new. i would need a lot more space than i have available to create a new snow floor to film.

I know, I know... we ask the impossible (or improbable?)...

But Vaderios had a good point in that the outside cockpit shot he uses in his mock-up comes from the following scene.  I think what V was saying was you could possibly use THAT shot for the cockpit view.

In regards to the camera moving all over the place, you have stable cockpit shots you could use for the cockpit element.  Rather than keep the original shot  or any part of it (such as blue-screening the mock-up background onto the original shot) maybe you could do one of 2 options:

(1) take an earlier cockpit scene (Luke's strafe of the first AT-AT or inside Zev's cockpit during the search) where the camera is stable; delete the external image and replace with the new background.  Afterwards, any sort of camera shakes could be added to recreate the original shot.

(2) take the new mock-up shot but excise the cockpit. There were shots from inside Zev's cockpit when he was searching for Han and Luke where all we saw was the terrain.  You could in essense put the camera right outside the cockpit window so the only element to mess with would be the outside image... as well as add the shaking and other elements afterwards...

TK99 said:

That's it I'm sorry Ady I can't wait.

 

Lets hope by 2015 you have the first 3 done.

 

 

Then he can do Back to the Future I, II, and III Revisited! Great Scott!

adywan said:

well i'm thinking of building a TIE Bomber because i want to see them in ROTJ:R bombing the shit out of the rebel cruisers.

 

I keep only that!!!!

Also more Sets ady? Carefull with all these tasks. Even lucas go to hospital for excaustion. (jk)

Great news as always.

Monroville said:

In regards to the camera moving all over the place, you have stable cockpit shots you could use for the cockpit element.  Rather than keep the original shot  or any part of it (such as blue-screening the mock-up background onto the original shot) maybe you could do one of 2 options:

(1) take an earlier cockpit scene (Luke's strafe of the first AT-AT or inside Zev's cockpit during the search) where the camera is stable; delete the external image and replace with the new background.  Afterwards, any sort of camera shakes could be added to recreate the original shot.

(2) take the new mock-up shot but excise the cockpit. There were shots from inside Zev's cockpit when he was searching for Han and Luke where all we saw was the terrain.  You could in essense put the camera right outside the cockpit window so the only element to mess with would be the outside image... as well as add the shaking and other elements afterwards...

Yeah it can work. No need to track the footage. Just create a plate and imitate the movement.

-Angel

vaderios said:

Monroville said:

In regards to the camera moving all over the place, you have stable cockpit shots you could use for the cockpit element.  Rather than keep the original shot  or any part of it (such as blue-screening the mock-up background onto the original shot) maybe you could do one of 2 options:

(1) take an earlier cockpit scene (Luke's strafe of the first AT-AT or inside Zev's cockpit during the search) where the camera is stable; delete the external image and replace with the new background.  Afterwards, any sort of camera shakes could be added to recreate the original shot.

(2) take the new mock-up shot but excise the cockpit. There were shots from inside Zev's cockpit when he was searching for Han and Luke where all we saw was the terrain.  You could in essense put the camera right outside the cockpit window so the only element to mess with would be the outside image... as well as add the shaking and other elements afterwards...

Yeah it can work. No need to track the footage. Just create a plate and imitate the movement.

-Angel

no it can't work. you can't just create a plate & imitate the movement  because you need long enough footage of fast moving ground for this to be able to work. There isn't any shots in ESB what i could use because of all the other elements in the shots. I can't use the snowspeeder search because the speeder is flying over the mountains so the ground isn't flat like the AT-AT battle so a total mismatch.  the only way to do this would be to find a movie that has a long enough flyover of flat snow covered ground.

Hmm..

Any footage from planet earth?

Or The day after tomorow?

-Angel

vaderios said:

Hmm..

Any footage from planet earth?

Or The day after tomorow?

-Angel

funny you mention that because i was checking out The Day After Tomorrow before posting and there is only one shot of a snow scape flyover and that is right at the beginning. unfortunately it has the opening credits covering up the section i would need to use and the ground is CGI and wouldn't match ESB

dbuck said:

'fraid not.  Actually I wasn't sure how it worked, I had never ignored anyone before.  I certainly don't mind many of the ideas or suggestions presented on this thread, even off the wall ones, or any attempt at mock-ups, etc, even when I do not agree with them personally.  It's Ady's job to choose which ideas are good or bad, or fit within the vision that is ESB-R.  Throw those ideas out and see what sticks.  But you do have the responsibility to think those ideas through first.  Obviously early on there were plenty of ideas and mistakes to fix, but now it has been so thoroughly dissected that most ideas now discussed are minor tweaks, matte lines, minor effects, and so on while we wait for Ady to build his models. 

Janskreet came in late (not a crime) skipped over hundreds of pages of posts and seemingly started throwing out random stuff previously covered.  (Again. not a crime but certainly lazy)  Janskreet has desperately been trying anything ever since, and early on I considered it trolling, and I wasn't alone.  That obviously is not the case, but I felt it necessary for my own sanity, to make the leap, break my streak, and for once hit the ignore button.

I'm certain I am not alone, and someone out there probably ignores me, as well.  Heck, this post alone might earn me one or two.

And now back to our regular scheduled programming.

Ok, this really is very well formulated post indeed. I agree with you completely. There are some people from time to time throwing different kind of stuff in here that sometimes seems weird. That hungarian fan approx. half a year ago agressively insisting in very long posts to "go back to screenplay" as it would be some kind of bible or something... that guy didn't get any reactions and simply dissapeared... maybe it will with time happen with Janskeet too incl. his weird avatar (for a european person really weird avatar-idea - what does it mean anyway?) But - it's a democratic forum, so if ignoring happens , it's going to happen without mobbing anyway.

Adywan: I am telling different people which are SW fans and not members of any SW forums about your progress. All of them are awaiting ESB:R wit greatest anticipation and exitement.

Cheers everybody.

Darth Wagner said:

maybe it will with time happen with Janskeet too incl. his weird avatar (for a european person really weird avatar-idea - what does it mean anyway?) But - it's a democratic forum, so if ignoring happens , it's going to happen without mobbing anyway.

I agree with your post but is like the same thing from the other side. I mean he came and pointed up spelling errors and now you say about his avatar. Im not telling that is wrong or to get me wrong. I believe that we give to this matter too much attention after the mods gave us the opportunity of the ignore button. And you can know if someone has ignored you so this ends here :) This topic have gone in madness this last days... :P

Now move along

-Angel

brash_stryker said:

Janskeet said:

Adywan, I watched this interview, I didn't realize how strong of a british accent you have.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSmjxa-5ujc

Haha. I hate the term "british accent". Implies that everyone in Britain sounds the same.

I'm Welsh, so I sound Completely different to Adywan :)

 

Same thing in America. I sound way different than someone in new york would. Most big city people would have a hard time understanding what I say sometimes AND THEY DO.

adywan said:

vaderios said:

Monroville said:

In regards to the camera moving all over the place, you have stable cockpit shots you could use for the cockpit element.  Rather than keep the original shot  or any part of it (such as blue-screening the mock-up background onto the original shot) maybe you could do one of 2 options:

(1) take an earlier cockpit scene (Luke's strafe of the first AT-AT or inside Zev's cockpit during the search) where the camera is stable; delete the external image and replace with the new background.  Afterwards, any sort of camera shakes could be added to recreate the original shot.

(2) take the new mock-up shot but excise the cockpit. There were shots from inside Zev's cockpit when he was searching for Han and Luke where all we saw was the terrain.  You could in essense put the camera right outside the cockpit window so the only element to mess with would be the outside image... as well as add the shaking and other elements afterwards...

Yeah it can work. No need to track the footage. Just create a plate and imitate the movement.

-Angel

no it can't work. you can't just create a plate & imitate the movement  because you need long enough footage of fast moving ground for this to be able to work. There isn't any shots in ESB what i could use because of all the other elements in the shots. I can't use the snowspeeder search because the speeder is flying over the mountains so the ground isn't flat like the AT-AT battle so a total mismatch.  the only way to do this would be to find a movie that has a long enough flyover of flat snow covered ground.

 

 

Is there any footage from Firefox that could be used !?

Vaderios / Angel, you have PM.

adywan said:

vaderios said:

Hmm..

Any footage from planet earth?

Or The day after tomorow?

-Angel

funny you mention that because i was checking out The Day After Tomorrow before posting and there is only one shot of a snow scape flyover and that is right at the beginning. unfortunately it has the opening credits covering up the section i would need to use and the ground is CGI and wouldn't match ESB

 

 

How about John Carpenter's The Thing? Lots of shots in that film with helicopters used. Maybe there is something there?

The thing has not proper shots. All the flybys are chasing the damn dog.

No luck

Who wants to be a pro? http://www.artbeats.com/

many good stuff even for ROTJ:R

-Angel

Maybe an IMAX documentry/ National Geographic on Anartica or Alaska?  I know there are some that are in 720p...