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Perhaps as with AHN:R, Ady will release a purist version which is colour corrected but with blue tie fighters instead of grey...but let's let him finish the work rather than hold him here debating it! :p

Monroville said:

    Kurgan, it's not a matter of making SW look black and white so much as the whitish TIES stand out better (as in they stand out, not STAND OUT and make your eyes bleed).

Without the video to demonstrate it, how am I going to take your word for it? Gray makes the TIE blend in with the other objects (Falcon, ISD's, gray asteroids). Are you saying he's lightening them too so they appear "white"?

Without the imposed blue tints from the 2004 edition, I would think that the blue would stand out more against the other gray objects. I don't know about you, but the color blue doesn't make my "eyes bleed." Perhaps you should get that condition looked at?

  While it's evident that Adywan will need to do some tweeking on the FX other than simply recoloring the TIEs to grey or whatnot (some of those asteroid shots look a bit "modelly"), I can understand liking a bluish tint to the TIEs.  Its just that those things are like Jimi Hendrix blue!

What's he going to do, put in CGI asteroids? ;)

It's funny that most people never had  a problem with them being blue. In fact, before this thread came about I'd never heard anyone complain about them. Sure a few people forget if they don't watch the movies in a long time and just play the video games, but that's about it. Many of us as kids had the toys and remember that some of the TIEs were blue. As a kid I thought the old gray TIEs in SW looked less realistic (of course the 1997 tweaked versions were more detailed and cleaner looking).

   So here we go:

    (1) while I would like the AT-AT green lasers, red are perfectly fine too.

Why would they need to be green? They could be blue, or purple too. Those are pretty colors.

I say if you're going to change something, you don't change it just to change it, but you need a good reason to do so. The fixes that make sense are the ones that undue the "damage" done by Lucas' arbitrary changes from 1997 and 2004, or obvious SFX gaffes that weren't fixed due to budget or time constraints. The minute consistency changes that Ady has been done mostly go unnoticed, which is fine, but it's in keeping with what the SE's ought to have done (instead they haphazardly fixed some stuff and forgot to fix other stuff).

There's no point in changing the color of the lasers except you're bored or like another color better. We could change the Death Star beam to red, for example, but why?

It reminds me, way back in the day somebody posted a screenshot of changing the computer panels on the Death Star from red to blue, because they thought it looked better. That to me isn't a good enough reason to do it... not because it's somehow immoral, but I think that a classic film like this deserves a certain amount of respect, even when it's a fan edit done by somebody in their spare time for free, for laughs.

    I need some sleep...

We all should. If anybody is getting upset over this, it's not worth it! I just hate to see an otherwise promising fanedit fall short because of something like this. To me it's removing information from the original version, and that's about the lowest rung of change you can make. Since the blue color wasn't a gaffe (only the uniformity of the shade, but that is like any other color that is off from shot to shot, as applies to a lot of things in these movies), I just don't agree with a change like this, and I'm sorry if that offends anyone.

Oh for Zod's sake!

It's Ady's fan edit, he can put pink TIE fighters in with yellow spots on if he wants.

He has made his justification for going with grey and that is surely enough for a fan edit.

If other people want to have ESB:R with blue TIE fighters they can (giving credit where it is due) put them back in themselves.

Some of the people posting on here seem to act as if this the Adywan Pizza Palace where you can insist on the toppings you demand.

These threads are for making suggestions, not barking orders at the poor chap.

We aren't paying him for these fan edits so there isn't any space for foot stomping.

PS. Remember the spinach, olives and extra Jalapenos on mine or else!

adywan said:

 

The Revisited edits were started so i can get versions of the saga that i have always wanted to see ( not counting the the OUT of course), so removing blue TIEs fits into that perfectly. I toyed with the idea of keeping blue TIEs only due to nostalgia but after seeing the completed colour correction for those sequences i just didn't like them.

 

Whew, I'm exausted after all that too!  I reckon that the above statement by Adywan is the ONLY explanation he needs to give anyone, and that goes for any future suggestions too, that any of the good folks here have in the future. 

Like his amazing ANH:R edit, there eventually may be a couple of certain little things in this latest planned edit of his that I would have liked to have seen done differently, but I realize that I'm just so damn lucky that there is someone out there with the talent and commitment to generally improve on this whole saga in the first place....and making it available for myself and everyone else to enjoy.  The fact is that his decisions can't please EVERY differing preferrence from everyone interested....BUT we can rest assured that overall, his own personal ones will probably improve things a lot, and are sure to beat the hell out of the many slip-ups that have been made in the past!

Thanks for your continued interaction here Ady, as you are doing marvellous work for us all.

Though honestly if he's the type who'd seriously decide it'd be a good idea to make TIE fighters in ESB white (the TIEs in SW are white only to resolve technical issues with blue screen photography: the fighters were originally supposed to be blue) then maybe he's not entirely the best sort of person to be helming a project like this. You'd think he would have done the research to prove him wrong.

Kurgan, Im having a hard time understanding why adywan would engage you in such a courteous and professional manner after comments like that.   Helm your own edit if you think this one isn't in the best hands....I for one will be watching his.

Bingowings said:

rortiz77 said:

I made a video time ago trying to sync the opening scenes from TESB with the John Williams music cue "The ice planet Hoth" (that's supposed to be heard there). I changed some shots order, added two new shots and extended one shot in order to make the music fit. Maybe it can give some ideas, maybe not.

In case you are interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhie3MEXvzY

BTW, Ady, in case you are interested I will translate the subtitles for TESB Revisited to spanish (as I did for ANH).

There's a few jump cuts in there but on the whole it works a treat, a great piece of work.

The music might be even more in sync if the surplus to requirements shot of Han's Tauntaun was removed.

We can hear him on Luke's comlink, we see him ride the thing into the base, do we really have to see the model (and it's not a very good shot) stomping around far, far away?

 

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. I agree, the "Han on Tauntaun from a distance" shot seems totally out of place, it has always bugged me. Maybe the music sync would be better without it, I'm not sure. I did this video quite long ago even though I published it on Youtube three months ago.

And the jump cuts are due to my limited knowledge on video/audio editing.

Well said professa.

Im with you on that one this time.

I dont think you need to rise to his argument any longer Adywan.

rortiz77 said:

Bingowings said:

rortiz77 said:

I made a video time ago trying to sync the opening scenes from TESB with the John Williams music cue "The ice planet Hoth" (that's supposed to be heard there). I changed some shots order, added two new shots and extended one shot in order to make the music fit. Maybe it can give some ideas, maybe not.

In case you are interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhie3MEXvzY

BTW, Ady, in case you are interested I will translate the subtitles for TESB Revisited to spanish (as I did for ANH).

There's a few jump cuts in there but on the whole it works a treat, a great piece of work.

The music might be even more in sync if the surplus to requirements shot of Han's Tauntaun was removed.

We can hear him on Luke's comlink, we see him ride the thing into the base, do we really have to see the model (and it's not a very good shot) stomping around far, far away?

 

 

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. I agree, the "Han on Tauntaun from a distance" shot seems totally out of place, it has always bugged me. Maybe the music sync would be better without it, I'm not sure. I did this video quite long ago even though I published it on Youtube three months ago.

And the jump cuts are due to my limited knowledge on video/audio editing.

It might be worth giving it another go and even attempting to eliminate the double impact to see what it's like too.

I'm no expert on video/audio editing either (I'd love to be able to seperate music tracks from the rest of the sound mix for example, some films are wrecked by too much, too loud or inappropriate music) but little mini projects like yours A) help you gain new skills and you already have a degree of flair in that department B) serve as illustrations to other editors like Adywan about what might work in their projects.

It was nice to hear the music cues in the place that Williams intended them to be.

Advanced Video Codec High Definition, sir. Aint it?

I am all for the green lasers.  The Rebellion has red lasers, the Empire has green lasers.  Simple as that. 

Ok, it's not that simple.  In space, the Empire has green lasers.  The storm troopers shoot red lasers, and the Sith carry red light sabers (and Luke had a green one in ROTJ).  Now we need Star Wars ANH Revisited Revisited to fix these anomalies.  ;-)

In all seriousness, the AT-AT's are much larger than hand-held weapons and deserve the green lasers in my opinion.

Adywan (or anyone who knows) when doing ESB revisited, is the source material HD or SD?  In other words, will we see an HD version of ESB Revisited?

Thanks!

Mike

I personally can't wait for this edit ANH:R is now my definitive version of A New Hope i can't wait until your revisited edits are complete maybe you should rename it ADYWANS Definitive Collection.

All this talk of TIE colour is making this thread sound like Savile Row.