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doubleofive said: Even so, if you were a probe droid and landed on a planet, would you immediately go after the faint life signs you're picking up all the way down a mountain (if you could see them at all), or the HUGE power generator giving off all kinds of energy?

but if that was the probe landing by luke it was no distance away from the base, han made the journey by tauntaun twice and spent time talking to chewie, threepio, reiken and leia and changed his clothes twice and a night passed and the rescue took place and luke healed in bacta all before the probe droid got to the power generator.

timewise doesn't make sense that it was the probe

now if ady wants to edit the timing of things to make it fit that it was the probe it's gonna take some pretty good editing

also i think it would be too dumb of the empire to send out thousands of probe droids looking for the rebel base that aren't capable of detecting human life, they should be able to detect pretty much anything in a given range, that's their only function, the com traffic may have been encrypted but there should have been no com traffic on hoth therefore would have been reported

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Episode IV had 'The Great Hand/Flipper Debate'

Episode V has 'The Great Green/Red Laser AND Meteor/Probe Droid Debate'...! 

I wonder what Episode VI will bring....

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astromech said:

Episode IV had 'The Great Hand/Flipper Debate'

Episode V has 'The Great Green/Red Laser AND Meteor/Probe Droid Debate'...! 

I wonder what Episode VI will bring....

I have a list of debates just from the little Ady has told us about what he plans for VI...

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I made a video time ago trying to sync the opening scenes from TESB with the John Williams music cue "The ice planet Hoth" (that's supposed to be heard there). I changed some shots order, added two new shots and extended one shot in order to make the music fit. Maybe it can give some ideas, maybe not.

In case you are interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhie3MEXvzY

BTW, Ady, in case you are interested I will translate the subtitles for TESB Revisited to spanish (as I did for ANH).

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An easy way to get around the whole "why didn't the probe droid come after luke and start shooting (or after Han and Luke and the Snowspeeders)" is that the probot's mission is to detect and record - kind of like a Forward Air Controller.  FACs are sent behind enemy lines to record enemy locations and give latitude and longitude info for military bombardment. 

So who is to say that the probot picked up Luke, Taun-Taun and Wampa and ever since was hiding behind the hills watching and recording.  Hell, one could say that it was the whole events from Wampa to snowspeeder rescue that led the probot to the rebel base to begin with; all it had to do was track the snowspeeders and follow them to where they went.

It is the same meteor landing, or at least the same exact FX shot.  That's why to take care of the "jump back in time" issue, just overlay a macro-binocular readout to the second meteor landing, take out the impact and replace it with a column of smoke (as we've already seen the probot land and leave) and then Luke gets womped.  Being that the probot's first mission is to remain undetected so as to scour an entire planet for the rebels AND not alert them to it's presence, it would make sense that the probot could have flown over the hill that we see and was watching the entire Wampa attack all along.  All it would need to do is wait to see if anything pans out, thus once the Snowspeeders arrived, it could follow them to their base.

Also remember that while it may have picked up Han and Chewie (in fact, it could have been approaching them for investigation after picking them up on its sensors), it blew itself up when Han and Chewie not only acknowledged it's existence but shot back.  It was discovered and thus self-destructed to prevent capture.

         

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I like the "the droid's been following Luke" argument Monroville makes there.

but about the whole "star wars movies do not jump around in time like that" thing: Yes they do. We're talking about it right now. It's been like that since 1980.

Some people here never thought of it as the same crash happening twice, others did. So if that worked for everybody before, why change it? It doesn't need to be explained. Both interpretations work. Changing something as silly as that'll only make people angry because it's "not the way they remember it".

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sgdelta1771 said:

Recoloured Executor

 

I really like this. The difference in color always bothered me, so this just looks so much better to me.

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TheoOdo said:
sgdelta1771 said:

Recoloured Executor

 

I really like this. The difference in color always bothered me, so this just looks so much better to me.

 

ditto

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rortiz77 said:

I made a video time ago trying to sync the opening scenes from TESB with the John Williams music cue "The ice planet Hoth" (that's supposed to be heard there). I changed some shots order, added two new shots and extended one shot in order to make the music fit. Maybe it can give some ideas, maybe not.

In case you are interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhie3MEXvzY

BTW, Ady, in case you are interested I will translate the subtitles for TESB Revisited to spanish (as I did for ANH).

There's a few jump cuts in there but on the whole it works a treat, a great piece of work.

The music might be even more in sync if the surplus to requirements shot of Han's Tauntaun was removed.

We can hear him on Luke's comlink, we see him ride the thing into the base, do we really have to see the model (and it's not a very good shot) stomping around far, far away?

 

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astromech said:

Episode IV had 'The Great Hand/Flipper Debate'

Episode V has 'The Great Green/Red Laser AND Meteor/Probe Droid Debate'...! 

I wonder what Episode VI will bring....

Probably the great Boba fett dies/ lives debate.

This whole "probe droid" debate is getting a bit out of hand. There is no need to do an editing to that scene whatsoever. It is the same crash seen from 2 different points of view. The whole suspense thing is built up because we have already seen what emerged from the crater . Now when the Taun taun begins to get jumpy we think that it has sensed the probe approaching. You are expecting that to attack and then WHAM its something completely different. This is how i have always thought since seeing it in 1980, and as Darth Bo said before me.

It wouldn't have gone after Luke because its probably not programmed to detect life signs but instead technology. The Empire is searching for the new Rebel base so sending out hundreds of probe droids that scan for life forms on all these planets and report back would be a huge amount of time wasted sifting through all the information. But if it were only programmed to detect certain types of technology then only important information would be sent back to the Empire. If it could have detected Luke then why didn't it detect Han & Chewie waiting ready to ambush it? It wasn't going to investigate them but just steadily going about its business.It only reacted when Chewie stood up and roared. Then knowing it was ambushed and the high percentage of it being disabled or captured, the self destruct set in. If it could detect them then it wouldn't have fallen into the trap.

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but if that was the probe landing by luke it was no distance away from the base, han made the journey by tauntaun twice and spent time talking to chewie, threepio, reiken and leia and changed his clothes twice and a night passed and the rescue took place and luke healed in bacta all before the probe droid got to the power generator.

There is a picture of a storyboard somewhere from ESB where the Probe is caught in the snowstorm and gets buried in snow which would explain why it took so long to get to the generator. The cold could well have affected its systems.

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If you look at the background of this shot, you can see what looks like a destroyed defense turret, which seems odd since the battle hasn't started yet.

Yeh, i noticed that. I will be doing something with the background on that shot

doubleofive said:

Wait a minute:

Are those footprints from the guys who set the explosive charge?

I didn't notice that one though.  I will have to do something about that.

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sgdelta1771 said:

Recoloured Executor

 

I really like this. The difference in color always bothered me, so this just looks so much better to me.

 

ditto

Sorry, but i have always preferred the Executor to be blue (as it was originally, not the mess it became in the 2004 release). It really makes this ship stand out as something important. Having it grey just makes it another stardestroyer.  This is how it will look in ESB:R. Taken from my colour corrected version:

The TIEs though, after colour correcting, i really don't like them blue at all. They just don't look right at all. That was the good thing about ANH that the space battles were very muted in colours, almost like watching a black & white movie and gave the feel of old world war 2 dogfights. The TIE colours were boosted to the point of oversaturation in ESB but in many shots they are grey (and that's in the original version and not just the 2004 version). So the TIEs are now definitely going to be back to grey. The Bombers will have the original colouring because they are different ships. TIEs were grey in ANH, so i want to keep the consistency there

Some good news: I have now completed 1hr 43 minutes of the colour correction on ESB. Totally worked my ass off but it has been great to be able to get back to it. Probably just after X-mas you may start to see a few new FX clips appearing :)

 

 

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Awesome - can't wait to see it.

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adywan said:

TIEs were grey in ANH, so i want to keep the consistency there

That's good to hear. I already knew you wanted to keep the SSD a bit blue, too, as it is a special ship. I like the blue lights/windows all over it, too. Very unique.

 

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One thing i did forget to mention: Recently i have been flooded with both PM's and emails regarding suggestions and questions about my edits. Well i have to say that if you do have questions or suggestions that you please ask in the appropriate thread. Its just become too many now. So from today i will no longer be replying to any PM's or emails that is about anything that belongs in the Revisited (or its offspring threads)or AVCHD threads. I'm sorry but, not only is it causing me to lose track of things, but there are just too many now, with most covering things that have already been discussed in here and they are just filling up my PM's & email way too fast.

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So the TIEs are now definitely going to be back to grey. The Bombers will have the original colouring because they are different ships. TIEs were grey in ANH, so i want to keep the consistency there

 


Argh, why do the space battles need to look like black & white? Anyone can just dial down their color contrast, right?

The TIEs were originally intended to be blue, and this gave ESB & ROTJ a unique look.

 

Glad you're keeping the Executor color, but I say, bad idea on the monochrome TIEs in ESB.... :(

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Kurgan said:

 

So the TIEs are now definitely going to be back to grey. The Bombers will have the original colouring because they are different ships. TIEs were grey in ANH, so i want to keep the consistency there

 


Argh, why do the space battles need to look like black & white? Anyone can just dial down their color contrast, right?

The TIEs were originally intended to be blue, and this gave ESB & ROTJ a unique look.

 

Glad you're keeping the Executor color, but I say, bad idea on the monochrome TIEs in ESB.... :(

The colour correction i am doing at the moment has all blue TIEs. This video will be available on my AVCHD release in 1080p HD glory. But for revisited the TIEs will be grey. You have to remember this isn't a restoration its just a fan edit. I hate the blue TIEs in ROTJ & ESB. no amount of pressuring will make me change my mind on this (and yes i have just been pointed to  the topic you started over at stardestroyer.net, Kurgan, that links to this thread to get people there to try and change my mind.). I have always preferred the TIEs to be grey. ANH:R has grey TIEs so suddenly jumping to having all blue TIEs really doesn't fit with continuity with my edit. The whole bollox explanation that the Death Star TIEs were a different squadron so were white/ grey is just more EU bullshit to explain an error. If that's the case then why did ILM add the CG TIEs for the SE as blue/grey ones? That totally screwed up that theory.

And as you can see from the pic you posted Kurgan the TIEs in ESB & ROTJ aren't even that colour. The TIES were artificially coloured for many shots. Its really obvious when comparing the model to the screen version. That colouring would have been almost grey when filmed. Like i said before they forgot in a lot of shots to recolour them and they are grey. This was the start of ILM finding out they could do something new and then totally overdoing it. They can recolour the TIES so they oversaturate them, but forget some shots; they find out that they can eliminate the black matte lines for the Hoth Battle by making the matte slightly transparent, but then use the same technique during the space scenes and the falcon & TIEs become transparent.

 

 

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Hey, I'm sure you can deal with a little constructive criticism. ;)

 

The Empire has millions of TIE Fighters... why do they have to all be the same color? The interceptors too? I don't see how it looks better (maybe it's easier?) to desaturate every one of the blue TIEs, rather than making them a uniform blue color, as you just said yourself that they're all already blue in the high def edit that a tiny percentage of people will be able to view.



If anything, you should be changing the ones in ANH to blue, for consistency's sake!

The less of the movie that looks like black & white, the better...

 

 

 

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Kurgan said:

Hey, I'm sure you can deal with a little constructive criticism. ;)

 

The Empire has millions of TIE Fighters... why do they have to all be the same color? The interceptors too?



If anything, you should be changing the ones in ANH to blue, for consistency's sake!

The less of the movie that looks like black & white, the better...

yeh but theres constructive critisism and then theres stuff like this:

Though honestly if he's the type who'd seriously decide it'd be a good idea to make TIE fighters in ESB white (the TIEs in SW are white only to resolve technical issues with blue screen photography: the fighters were originally supposed to be blue) then maybe he's not entirely the best sort of person to be helming a project like this. You'd think he would have done the research to prove him wrong.

I have done my research and as your pic shows (which you have now removed)the TIEs are not the colour we see in ESB or ROTJ. I won't bow down to any form of pressure, in fact im a stubborn bugger and would probably do the complete opposite that was i was being told to do ( and that doesn't mean that everyone should start telling me the TIEs have to be grey just so i'll keep them blue. lol). If i was the sort of person that did bow to pressure then i may as well just hand the edit to someone else and i just do the work. That will never happen. :)

ANH is finished and i will never go back to that, so recolouring the TIEs will never happen

I love the muted tones used in ANH. more and more colour began to be used as the movies went on and that became a huge problem with the PT. They are just too colourful and lose the feel of the OT completely. Not everything has to be colourful

here's some shots taken from the GOUT. Just look how many times the colouring changes in this short sequence from shot to shot. They're all over the place. The last 2 of the asteroid chase are the same TIE. its starts grey until the next shot when it turns dark blue (and it has nothing to do with the sparking because the previous shot it is still light blue/ grey right up until the last frame). then we see them bombing the surface. the bombers are light blue and the TIEs are grey, and look much better IMO

 

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I didn't remove the pic, just resized it (hit refresh). It's one of several shots you can easily find with google image search from that show. You said before you wanted to tone down the blue, but still leave them blue, before. Then you said you wanted it gray after a few people seemed up for that idea... then when I mentioned it last time, you said you were making them blue and I'd just misunderstood. Now we're back to gray again?

As for the "muted" stuff:

I thought you said that the removal of color was due to the aging of the film and the crappy restoration jobs of the past...

 

I have nothing against Black & White, it just isn't what Star Wars was meant to be, and when you have a scene of black & white it stands out sandwiched between scenes of color.

I think you had the right idea with making all the TIEs blue. Why are you making them all gray in one version and all blue in another? Your HD edition is also a fan edit... I just don't understand the back & forth. Blue just looks better. Heck, even if you just left the TIEs as is (how they looked in 1980) that'd be cool. There's been nothing wrong with them all this time. To suddenly make them all gray just makes it more boring, visually. Gray TIEs next to gray asteroids, gray ISDs on a black background with white stars, chasing other gray objects. Yawn.

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Grey TIEs in ESB/ROTJ!  Thank God!  I'm with you on that one, Ady, I've always HATED the 'blue' TIEs (sorry Kurgan, I don't care what color the models may have been, on film they look like shit compared to the ANH TIEs).

And I don't understand why people are getting so worked up over the probe droid crash - just because 99% of the Star Wars films are apparently entirely linear doesn't mean that we can't have a small, insignifigantly non-linear sequence for the sake of suspense.

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Why exactly does blue look "like shit" compared to gray? If anything, gray is closer to the color of feces... unless you've been eating some weird food!

 

Seriously though, the models are closer to blue, the ships have been blue since 1980, the toys based on the movie were blue, the comics based on it showed them blue... it's clear that was always the intention... this wasn't some johnny-come-lately SE screw up, like so many of the other things we complain about. The majority of TIEs we've ever seen onscreen were some shade of blue. This makes the white/gray ones in ANH the odd ones out.

 

ANH is finished and i will never go back to that, so recolouring the TIEs will never happen

 

 

But you went and recolored the TIEs for the HD ESB, and now you're going to re-color (or desaturate) them again? And do the same for ROTJ? Look, I know you don't want to go back to ANH:R, but it sounds like you're saying you're locked into "consistency." But that's saying you're doing this to cover a mistake you made (in not making the TIEs in ANH blue to match the rest of the saga).

 

I can understand you hating blue because of the tints that Lowry Digital/Lucasfilm put in in 2004, but don't hate on the original TIE fighters for something those guys screwed up 24 years later!

 

The only reason I can think of for people preferring gray is because of the video games, that uniformly show gray ships (prior to the prequel era). But the games are notoriously inaccurate in virtually all areas...

So the Executor gets to be the only colored object in the night sky?

 

How about this: Blue Executor, blue TIEs... maybe gray is the default color, but Vader's Squadron uses blue?

 

 

The probe droid thing is cool, you won't get any complaints from me on that one!

 

PS: You ought to watch WWII in color... ;)

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Kurgan said:

I didn't remove the pic, just resized it (hit refresh). It's one of several shots you can easily find with google image search from that show. You said before you wanted to tone down the blue, but still leave them blue, before. Then you said you wanted it gray after a few people seemed up for that idea... then when I mentioned it last time, you said you were making them blue and I'd just misunderstood. Now we're back to gray again?

Well for one i hadn't even started the colour correction on any of the FX scenes when i originally said that the TIEs would be blue. I was still planning what i was going to do. it wasn't until i saw what they look like blue that i made my final decision

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I thought you said that the removal of color was due to the aging of the film and the crappy restoration jobs of the past...

Well i have never said that anywhere. I'd love to know where you think i am supposed to have said that.

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I think you had the right idea with making all the TIEs blue. Why are you making them all gray in one version and all blue in another? Your HD edition is also a fan edit... I just don't understand the back & forth. Blue just looks better. Heck, even if you just left the TIEs as is (how they looked in 1980) that'd be cool. There's been nothing wrong with them all this time. To suddenly make them all gray just makes it more boring, visually. Gray TIEs next to gray asteroids, gray ISDs on a black background with white stars, chasing other gray objects. Yawn.

The HD version is a restoration of the theatrical SE and not a fan edit at all. I never liked the blue TIEs since ESB's release. The Revisited edits were started so i can get versions of the saga that i have always wanted to see ( not counting the the OUT of course), so removing blue TIEs fits into that perfectly. I toyed with the idea of keeping blue TIEs only due to nostalgia but after seeing the completed colour correction for those sequences i just didn't like them. If you find having grey TIEs boring then i'm not forcing you to watch it.Its not like i'm saying "This is the only version of the Star Wars saga that exists". I'm not George you know. :) This is just a fan edit. It's nothing special and not an official release. I'm getting more and more sympathetic towards George Lucas everyday. lol. Somedays i wish i'd never even done ANH:R

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But you went and recolored the TIEs for the HD ESB, and now you're going to re-color (or desaturate) them again? And do the same for ROTJ? Look, I know you don't want to go back to ANH:R, but it sounds like you're saying you're locked into "consistency." But that's saying you're doing this to cover a mistake you made (in not making the TIEs in ANH blue to match the rest of the saga).

 

I can understand you hating blue because of the tints that Lowry Digital/Lucasfilm put in in 2004, but don't hate on the original TIE fighters for something those guys screwed up 24 years later!

yes i recoloured the TIEs for the restoration only. I have said this already. And i did not make a mistake by not colouring the TIEs blue in ANH at all. And i'm certainly not trying to cover anything by having the TIEs grey for consistency. It also has nothing to do with the 2004 restoration either. Check the pics i posted from the non restored version. Total screw up there. And another thing Lucasfilm screwed the colouring as they sent out a colour corrected version to Lowry, which was unthinkable as the colour correction should have been done after the restoration. They added the blue tint, not Lowry, which screwed the colouring up.

I guess we can add another to the lsit now:

The great probot/ meteor debate
The great green laser debate
The great TIE fighter blue / grey debate. lol

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DarthBo said:

I like the "the droid's been following Luke" argument Monroville makes there.

but about the whole "star wars movies do not jump around in time like that" thing: Yes they do. We're talking about it right now. It's been like that since 1980.

Some people here never thought of it as the same crash happening twice, others did. So if that worked for everybody before, why change it? It doesn't need to be explained. Both interpretations work. Changing something as silly as that'll only make people angry because it's "not the way they remember it".

Ummm, that's the point of the whole REVISITED thing... I mean, SW:ANH:R had some pretty radical changes in there, namely yet another Alderaan explosion ring (among a million other changes, for better or worse) that wasn't in the original movie.

To me, this could be changed in a minor way to remove a small niggle.  It's pretty damn obvious that its the same meteor impact, but what you do from there is up to whoever wants to edit it.  Regardless, it will be Adywan's call.

 

         

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adywan said:

      
Kurgan said:

        I thought you said that the removal of color was due to the aging of the film and the crappy restoration jobs of the past...


    Well i have never said that anywhere. I'd love to know where you think i am supposed to ahve said that.



    I cannot locate the original posts, but I KNOW you've said before that the color information has been lost in some scenes (when you were talking about ANH revisited). People pointed out that some scenes look like black & white with color "pasted on." There are some shots where this is glaringly obvious, like the one where the TIE pilots follow Vader down that hallway to meet the Rebels.


Are you saying you just did this for stylistic reasons, not because of the loss of color information?



           
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            I think you had the right idea with making all the TIEs blue. Why are you making them all gray in one version and all blue in another? Your HD edition is also a fan edit... I just don't understand the back & forth. Blue just looks better. Heck, even if you just left the TIEs as is (how they looked in 1980) that'd be cool. There's been nothing wrong with them all this time. To suddenly make them all gray just makes it more boring, visually. Gray TIEs next to gray asteroids, gray ISDs on a black background with white stars, chasing other gray objects. Yawn.


The HD version is a restoration of the theatrical SE and not a fan edit at all.



    Oh, okay, you took the 2004 edition and modified it to create a pseudo-1997 SE...  did you put Luke's "scream" back in there? ;)

 

 

Sounds like it's as much a fan edit as the "Classic Editions,"...

 

 

I never liked the blue TIEs since ESB's release. The Revisited edits were started so i can get versions of the saga that i have always wanted to see ( not counting the the OUT of course), so removing blue TIEs fits into that perfectly. I toyed with the idea of keeping blue TIEs only due to nostalgia but after seeing the completed colour correction for those sequences i just didn't like them.




Maybe you should post some clips to show us how much better they look?

If you find having grey TIEs boring then i'm not forcing you to watch it.Its not like i'm saying "This is the only version of the Star Wars saga that exists". I'm not George you know. :)




    Hey, I'm just trying to help you make it the best it can be! Nobody is forcing you to do this, either...



        Kurgan said:

        But you went and recolored the TIEs for the HD ESB, and now you're going to re-color (or desaturate) them again? And do the same for ROTJ? Look, I know you don't want to go back to ANH:R, but it sounds like you're saying you're locked into "consistency." But that's saying you're doing this to cover a mistake you made (in not making the TIEs in ANH blue to match the rest of the saga).


        I can understand you hating blue because of the tints that Lowry Digital/Lucasfilm put in in 2004, but don't hate on the original TIE fighters for something those guys screwed up 24 years later!


    yes i recoloured the TIEs for the restoration only. I have said this already. And i did not make a mistake by not colouring the TIEs blue in ANH at all. And i'm certainly not trying to cover anything by having the TIEs grey for consistancy.

 

So it's not for consistency, it's just because you didn't like blue TIE Fighters in 1980?

Apparently that's not a widespread phenomenon... more people were upset about the "Correllian Blood stripe" fiasco... (and for the record, that doesn't need tinkering with either!)

 

 

It also has nothing to do with the 2004 restoration either. Check the pics i posted from the non restored version. Total screw up there.

 

But they're obviously meant to be blue in the movie. We might as well argue that C3PO is really meant to be silver, because in a few shots he doesn't look as vibrantly gold, and changes color from one shot to the next. R2D2's panels are black in a lot of shots, maybe, someone would argue, they should always be black? Or someone could bring up the lightsabers and say they should all be white like the props, or all blue as originally planned (or all red like the comic book).

Again, I think you had the right idea deciding to make them uniformly blue.

 

And another thing Lucasfilm screwed the colouring as they sent out a colour corrected version to Lowry, which was unthinkable as the colour correction should ahve been done after the restoration. They added the blue tint, not Lowry, which screwed the colouring up.

 

Is that why the menus and the "Bonus Materials" disc show the correct colors?

 

 

    I guess we can add another to the lsit now:

    The great probot/ meteor debate
    The great green laser debate
    The great TIE fighter blue / grey debate. lol

    :)

 

If you sell the T-shirts...

 

Well anyway, if you really insist on making all the TIEs gray, I guess it won't be too hard for someone to make "ESB:R v1.1 DVD" with blue TIEs restored...

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Kurgan said:

 

adywan said:

      
Kurgan said:

        I thought you said that the removal of color was due to the aging of the film and the crappy restoration jobs of the past...


    Well i have never said that anywhere. I'd love to know where you think i am supposed to ahve said that.



    I cannot locate the original posts, but I KNOW you've said before that the color information has been lost in some scenes (when you were talking about ANH revisited). People pointed out that some scenes look like black & white with color "pasted on." There are some shots where this is glaringly obvious, like the one where the TIE pilots follow Vader down that hallway to meet the Rebels.


Are you saying you just did this for stylistic reasons, not because of the loss of color information?

I thought you were talking about prior to the 2004 restoration because you said "of the past.." and it was after i posted the pics of the TIEs from the GOUT. Its almost 9am here now and i've been up for the past 24 hours working on this damn edit so my brain is pretty fried.

Kurgan said:

 

adywan said:

      
Kurgan said:

        I thought you said that the removal of color was due to the aging of the film and the crappy restoration jobs of the past...


    Well i have never said that anywhere. I'd love to know where you think i am supposed to ahve said that.



    I cannot locate the original posts, but I KNOW you've said before that the color information has been lost in some scenes (when you were talking about ANH revisited). People pointed out that some scenes look like black & white with color "pasted on." There are some shots where this is glaringly obvious, like the one where the TIE pilots follow Vader down that hallway to meet the Rebels.


Are you saying you just did this for stylistic reasons, not because of the loss of color information?

I thought you were talking about prior to the 2004 restoration because you said "of the past.." and it was after i posted the pics of the TIEs from the GOUT. Its almost 9am here now and i've been up for the past 24 hours working on this damn edit so my brain is pretty fried.

Kurgan said:

         Oh, okay, you took the 2004 edition and modified it to create a pseudo-1997 SE...  did you put Luke's "scream" back in there? ;)

Sounds like it's as much a fan edit as the "Classic Editions,"...

 

Fan edits and restorations are 2 separate things. A fan edit changes the movie where as a restoration returns it to its original state or , as in the laserdisc transfers, archives a movie that is only available on an obsolete format and transfers it to a modern day format in the best possible quality. The revisited saga is a fan edit, my AVCHD is a restoration. They even include their theatrical audio from the laserdiscs, so yes, Lukes scream is restored

 

I really need to end this now. I've spent so much time on this subject i'm exhausted now and lost time i should have been spending on the edit. :)

 

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