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Wait a minute:

Are those footprints from the guys who set the explosive charge?

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Ripplin said:

I made a VIDEO folder on my SD card and also made sure it was in the VIDEO folder on my memory stick and it still didn't do somefin' or nuffin'. My PS3 has firmware 2.30 on it. Does it need something newer to recognize that format?

 

 Instead of hitting X to open the SD card, hit TRIANGLE and select "Display All", this will show all the folders on your SD card and you should be able to navigate through them and find the file regardless of where you placed it.

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frendon said:
Ripplin said:

I made a VIDEO folder on my SD card and also made sure it was in the VIDEO folder on my memory stick and it still didn't do somefin' or nuffin'. My PS3 has firmware 2.30 on it. Does it need something newer to recognize that format?

 

Instead of hitting X to open the SD card, hit TRIANGLE and select "Display All", this will show all the folders on your SD card and you should be able to navigate through them and find the file regardless of where you placed it.

I tried that and navigated directly to where the file is and it still says 'there are no titles to display' or whatever it says. I'll have to try upgrading the firware and see what happens. It's just not recognizing that file type, it seems.

 

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I found this on the IMDB trivia of ESB

"Further scenes with the Wampa were shot, and later cut. R2-D2 encountered one within the Rebel base, where it was killed by troopers. Later, the beasts were lured into a prison within the complex. In the completed film, a medical droid is seen examining the wounds of a tauntaun killed by a Wampa, and Princess Leia mentions the "creatures" while discussing the Imperial probe droid. A scene filmed but cut had Han, Leia and C-3PO running through a corridor. Han went to take a short-cut through a door with a sign on it, but Leia warned him "that's where those creatures are kept". They run off, but not before C-3PO rips off the sign, hoping that the stormtroopers will enter the room. They did."

It would be awesome if someone could get a hold of this footage somehow

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adywan said:

You're actually spot on with what i want to do with that scene. i always felt that the shots should have been in that order. It just makes so much more sense

Now the extra 3PO line that's been mentioned will be remaining. The thing is that this line was in the movie when i went to see it in 1980. I was lucky enough to see the 70mm version about 5 times. Now it always seemed odd to em when i saw the 35mm version and then the home video releases that this line was suddenly gone. None of my mates every believed me when i told them about this extra line, as well as a few other differences in both dialogue and the end sequence being shorter.  I guess it all comes down to what version you are most familiar with. I've also never got use to Leia saying " I know where Luke is" instead of repeating "we've got to go back" when they rescue Luke from Cloud City

Work is just flying along at the moment. I've even been able to re-create the original Emperor scene in HD for my AVCHD release of Empire. I posted the link in that thread but if anyone wants to see it then here is the link:

ESB ORIGINAL EMPEROR SCENE 1080P AC3 5.1 .ts stream

 

 

Can someone please upload this to YouTube? I'm having trouble watching it.

Ladyferry, can you help?

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doubleofive said:

Wait a minute:

Are those footprints from the guys who set the explosive charge?

Wampa tracks perhaps?  ;)

 

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The Golden Idol said:
adywan said:

Work is just flying along at the moment. I've even been able to re-create the original Emperor scene in HD for my AVCHD release of Empire. I posted the link in that thread but if anyone wants to see it then here is the link:

ESB ORIGINAL EMPEROR SCENE 1080P AC3 5.1 .ts stream

Can someone please upload this to YouTube? I'm having trouble watching it.

Ladyferry, can you help?

Honestly Idol, if you lower it to YouTube quality, you might as well just watch the GOUT.  That's how seamless the insertion of the original head is.  The colors are better though.

 

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My friend Adam May (Hasbro made a Star Wars figure of him recently!) from galactichunter.com (of BMF expose fame) has run a blurb about Adywan's Star Wars Revisited with a link to the newspaper article and all the videos so far on youtube.com so check it out guys?

http://www.galactichunter.com/

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I collect the figures and I frequent that site all the time.  In their forums, there's an Original Trilogy sub forum where I started a Revisited thread a while ago.  Sent at least a half-dozen copies to people there, who then sent copies to others.

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Hey Adywan, and before I forget sorry about your nephew.

 

Here's something I noticed while watching one of your earlier previews and that you might want to tweak : the shot below takes place before the beginning of the battle of Hoth, right after we can see the tiny Imperial walkers in the distant background.

 

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If you look at the background of this shot, you can see what looks like a destroyed defense turret, which seems odd since the battle hasn't started yet. Another strange thing that you can't see on this shot (you'd need to look at a video of it), but there is also some black smoke flowing accross the field of view. Looks to me that this shot was supposed to happen later during the battle and was moved before it.

 

Very nice job on the colour correction so far.

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Just watched your new clip and it is impressive indeed!  A few points to consider though:

(1) please make sure to make the MF's engines blue in color.  In a lot of the asteroid sequences the engines are white (I'm sure this will be fixed along with the blue-to-grey TIEs after the color correction).

a) also consider modifying the star fields ala ANH as well.  It seems as the star field outside the MF windows and other FX shots either don't move very much to suggest movement or the star fields are enemic.
b) PLEASE keep the rotating star field at the end when the MF makes the jump to HS.


(2) in regards to the probe droid landing sequence referenced earlier (with photos), maybe you could edit it in such a way as to negate the repeat landing explosion scenes.  For example, you could edit it as such:

a) probe pod is shown heading towards Hoth (maybe push Hoth further away from camera to give time for next shot to happen)
b) cut to overhead of Luke on Taun-Taun running across landscape
c) he looks through macro-binocs and sees the pod landing explosion.  You could extend the more distant landing shot to show the probot briefly exiting the smoke, thus negating the first probot scene.  It could also add a WTF? shock moment for the audience since it would also mean a smaller/more distant and quicker glimpse of the probot.
d) everything then carries on as normal, with Luke mentioning he's going to check it out and gets womped by the Wampa.
e) you will probably want to edit out the "footprints" as seen in the earlier screen caps too.


One last note: should the MF be so yellowish?  In ANH, it had more of a grey/white cast - during the asteroid sequence the MF looked light brown.

 

 

         

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Great to have you back Adywan........I've been busy lately, as my wife gave birth to our new little baby boy this past Tuesday morning.....the greatest thing ever.....just wanted to say that the clips look great....peace....

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Thanks man....the force is strong with this one.....

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I watched the test clips this week and I am quite pleased with the progress.  Keep up the good work!

 

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Someone a few pages ago brought up the idea of seeing Snowtroopers and AT-ST's in the thick of Battle on Hoth.  This would be an amazing addition to the battle scene.

 

I would seriously consider this option.

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First of all, my condolences to you and your family adywan. Having lost someone myself several years back, I know how bad it can be and my thoughts go out to you.

adywan said

Now the extra 3PO line that's been mentioned will be remaining. The thing is that this line was in the movie when i went to see it in 1980. I was lucky enough to see the 70mm version about 5 times. Now it always seemed odd to em when i saw the 35mm version and then the home video releases that this line was suddenly gone. None of my mates every believed me when i told them about this extra line, as well as a few other differences in both dialogue and the end sequence being shorter.  I guess it all comes down to what version you are most familiar with. I've also never got use to Leia saying " I know where Luke is" instead of repeating "we've got to go back" when they rescue Luke from Cloud City

Totaly off topic but WOW! You saw a 70mm print of Empire. I must admit to being a little obssesed with finding hard facts on the diffrences between this version and the 35mm/home video version. Would you be able to offer your thoughts/opinions on it as I can't remember anyone who actualy saw it commenting on it before. If not here, then maybe over in the 70mm Empire Thread.

Back on topic and the subject of the probe droid crash. Back before it was mentioned here, I always assumed the second impact was a diffrent meteorite but after everyone here said it was the same, I decided to check out The Annotated Screenplay. It confirms that it's the same crash but it reads a little diffrent to what apears on screen. (Well to me at least.)

One of these probes zooms toward the planet Hoth and lands on its ice-covered surface. An explosion marks the point of impact. A weird mechanical sound rises above the the whining wind. A strange probe robot with several extended sensors emerges from the smoke-shrouded crater. The ominous mechanical probe floats across the snow plain and disappears.

Then, after a quick description of Luke on his tauntaun

Luke Skywalker notices something in the sky. He takes a pair of electrobinoculers from his utility belt and through them sees smoke rising from where the probe robot has crashed.

There's no mention of a second crash, Luke could just as easily noticed the smoke on the horizon. I don't know if removing the 2nd crash would mess up the editing of the scene but it might be an idea to remove it so we don't have to witness the same crash twice.

Just my two cents on the subject.

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ladyferry said:

My friend Adam May (Hasbro made a Star Wars figure of him recently!) from galactichunter.com (of BMF expose fame) has run a blurb about Adywan's Star Wars Revisited with a link to the newspaper article and all the videos so far on youtube.com so check it out guys?

http://www.galactichunter.com/

 

This was actually my article... Thanks again, Ady! =)

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Back on topic and the subject of the probe droid crash. Back before it was mentioned here, I always assumed the second impact was a diffrent meteorite but after everyone here said it was the same, I decided to check out The Annotated Screenplay. It confirms that it's the same crash but it reads a little diffrent to what apears on screen. (Well to me at least.)

One of these probes zooms toward the planet Hoth and lands on its ice-covered surface. An explosion marks the point of impact. A weird mechanical sound rises above the the whining wind. A strange probe robot with several extended sensors emerges from the smoke-shrouded crater. The ominous mechanical probe floats across the snow plain and disappears.

Then, after a quick description of Luke on his tauntaun

Luke Skywalker notices something in the sky. He takes a pair of electrobinoculers from his utility belt and through them sees smoke rising from where the probe robot has crashed.

There's no mention of a second crash, Luke could just as easily noticed the smoke on the horizon. I don't know if removing the 2nd crash would mess up the editing of the scene but it might be an idea to remove it so we don't have to witness the same crash twice.

Just my two cents on the subject.

You know, maybe a cheaper way around this scene would be to remove the second "meteor hitting the hill" scene and edit it as follows.

(1) everything is as-is, but when we get the close-up of Luke on the Taun-Taun, just add a bass sound effect as we hear the audio of the probe impact in the distance. 

(2) Instead of the shot that we see, adjust it so it is through the lens of his macro-binocs ala ANH when Luke is looking for R2 at night time on his uncle's ranch.

(3) you could also take out the meteor impact and have him looking at the smoke coming out post-impact, suggesting that Luke just missed the initial landing and thus the previous scene showing the probot emerge.  That way you don't have a repeating scene issue and it flows with the probot entrance a minute or so before as a continuous shot as opposed to a brief jump back in time.

- so delete the meteor coming down and explosion in the second shot, and add a macro-binoc overlay and smoke coming out of the impact crater to indicate its been there for at least a few minutes.

So scrap my first suggestion; I think this would be the quickest and easiest way to edit this scene so it flows better.

         

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In the oficial dvd the second meteor shot was flipped, I believe to fix the issue of seeing the same thing happen twice.

Ady flipped it back so we'd understand/know/see that it is in fact the SAME crash.

I prefer it that way. It really isn't hard for me to see the same thing twice but from a different perspective...

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if it was the probe droids impact luke saw, wouldn't the probe droid have come to have a look at the lifeforms it would have detected so close by?

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It wouldn't be very scary if the droid landed at the other side of the planet now would it?

When Luke says "What's wrong, you smell something?" you think the tauntaun smells the droid, which makes the appearance of the wampa much more of a surprise - at least I thought so the first time I saw ESB.

If you want an explanation for something that really doesn't need explaining I'll make up a story: the droid's sensors were all messed up due to the inpact - calibrating would take another 30 minutes. During calibration it just went a random direction - away from where Luke was.

How's that? :p

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i don't need an explanation

because what luke saw was just a meteor

star wars movies do not jump around in time like that

i'm just saying the fact that the probe droid doesn't approach luke and the wampa adds to the case of it not being just a few hundred yards away at that time - and it is conspicuously absent through the whole of the rescue of luke and han. if it had been around it would have recorded the transmissions broadcast from zev and the other rogues (commander skywalker do you copy? captain solo do you copy?) and transmitted them to the empire rather than just an image of a power generator. it didn't do it coz it wasn't in that area at the time.

what are the chances of it landing within spitting distance of vaders number one target when it would have had a vast (maybe planetwide)area to cover

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professa adyfan said:

i don't need an explanation

because what luke saw was just a meteor

star wars movies do not jump around in time like that

i'm just saying the fact that the probe droid doesn't approach luke and the wampa adds to the case of it not being just a few hundred yards away at that time - and it is conspicuously absent through the whole of the rescue of luke and han. if it had been around it would have recorded the transmissions broadcast from zev and the other rogues (commander skywalker do you copy? captain solo do you copy?) and transmitted them to the empire rather than just an image of a power generator. it didn't do it coz it wasn't in that area at the time.

what are the chances of it landing within spitting distance of vaders number one target when it would have had a vast (maybe planetwide)area to cover

 

 I agree with everything said here. In fact, it never even occured to me that it MIGHT not have been a meteor Luke saw. Gen. Reiken even says 'sure are a lot of meteors around here.'

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professa adyfan said:

i don't need an explanation

because what luke saw was just a meteor

star wars movies do not jump around in time like that

i'm just saying the fact that the probe droid doesn't approach luke and the wampa adds to the case of it not being just a few hundred yards away at that time - and it is conspicuously absent through the whole of the rescue of luke and han. if it had been around it would have recorded the transmissions broadcast from zev and the other rogues (commander skywalker do you copy? captain solo do you copy?) and transmitted them to the empire rather than just an image of a power generator. it didn't do it coz it wasn't in that area at the time.

what are the chances of it landing within spitting distance of vaders number one target when it would have had a vast (maybe planetwide)area to cover

 

 I agree with everything said here. In fact, it never even occured to me that it MIGHT not have been a meteor Luke saw. Gen. Reiken even says 'sure are a lot of meteors around here.'

Interesting, because my experience has been quite the opposite.  Ever since childhood, I figured it was the probe because of the exact same explosion being used.  I always felt dread at Luke wanting to check out the meteor, knowing that the probe would recognize him and start shooting.  Thankfully he was distracted and pulled in the opposite direction by the Wampa.

The probe droid may not have picked up Luke due to interference (from the sensors that Han placed?) and no Rebel sensors picked up the Wampas at all.  Also, the probe didn't pick up that it was surrounded by Han and Chewie until they started yelling and shooting, so maybe its not configured to pick up life forms (or maybe to just ignore them until they pose a threat).  I'm sure all comm chatter was encoded, so the probe may not have picked it up.  So the only thing it could have found was the huge power generator whose signature and size they could not cover up.

Even so, if you were a probe droid and landed on a planet, would you immediately go after the faint life signs you're picking up all the way down a mountain (if you could see them at all), or the HUGE power generator giving off all kinds of energy?

This is the kind of thing Revisited should fix / change definitavely.  If Lucas can't be bothered to clarify anything, Ady can.

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<quote> Interesting, because my experience has been quite the opposite.  Ever since childhood, I figured it was the probe because of the exact same explosion being used.  I always felt dread at Luke wanting to check out the meteor, knowing that the probe would recognize him and start shooting.  Thankfully he was distracted and pulled in the opposite direction by the Wampa.

This is the kind of thing Revisited should fix / change definitavely.  If Lucas can't be bothered to clarify anything, Ady can. </quote>

 

 I wish we could get Kershner of Lucas to tell us what was intended (although Lucas would probably just lie about it).

It's funny we can watch the same shots and get totally different meanings. I bet someone could make a psychological test out of the opening to ESB.