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For those of you that are having problems downloading and playing this clip, I have downloaded the clip to youtube. You can watch it at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4Hm1QTjF-k I know its not 1080p but you can now watch it in high quality on youtube, the button for HQ is just below the video player, enjoy! x

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Just a word regarding voices...

A person's voice has nothing to do with their genetics.

You only have to look at geneticaly identical twins, (in other words, *natural* clones), they rarely have exactly the same voice.

(Similar? Maybe, but not identical).

Your voice comes down to societal factors; background, upbringing, social circles etc. (Even personal choice).

In essence, there is NO need for Boba to sound like Jango.

 

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I also have a playlist on youtube of virtually every Star Wars Revisited/Empire Strikes Back Revisited clip that Adywan has placed on this forum, the link is: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=4DB0EA9A58709519 this is really useful for those members who have problems downloading or viewing a clip, enjoy! x.

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doubleofive said:

adywan said:

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doubleofive said:

I couldn't resist posting the two changes I noticed. I won't directly put them on here till everyone has had a look, but I'll post the links for the curious:

Change 1

Change 2

change 2 looked really shopped in that video. I guess HD is a lot less forgiving! Of course, it's still in early development as well.

 

actually thats the best i'm going to get it at the moment. trying to find horns to match the wampa is hard enough but to get them in HD res then thats the killer.i ahven't got a clue whwre i'd find some horns to match or come even close. i had to use a mixture of wampa & taun taun to do those shots. then tracking those shots...man thats tough. if you think it looks crap then if i can't get it any better then i'll just have to drop it. This is the big hurdle i have to face now i'm working in HD. its a whole new ball game.

 

I've heard ideas given that the wampa that brought Luke to the cave is a different one that tried to stop him from escaping. Perhaps even different sexes, like the female would have small tusks from the side of the mouth while the males have horns that come from the top of its head, or vice versa. Honestly, I would just scrap it, though the tracking looked really good at the half speed I watched it at! I'd hate to lose all that work I'm sure you did, but it may be for the best.

The horns look fine to me but I was looking at it on my laptop.

It's a shame that a edit can't be done (presumably because of the soundtrack cues) so that the impact that Luke notices is actually the Probe droid landing (which he assumes is just another meteorite).

Probe enters the atmosphere Luke sees impact but gets attacked by Wampa, Probe rises out of crater, would be my prefered order but that's a lot of work for very little story flow.

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The horns look fine to me but I was looking at it on my laptop.

It's a shame that a edit can't be done (presumably because of the soundtrack cues) so that the impact that Luke notices is actually the Probe droid landing (which he assumes is just another meteorite).

Probe enters the atmosphere Luke sees impact but gets attacked by Wampa, Probe rises out of crater, would be my prefered order but that's a lot of work for very little story flow.

 

I've always figured that Luke is watching the probe droid land, even from childhood.  I mean, they both have the exact same plume of smoke that shoots out, just from another angle (which Adywan's flipping shows is actually the same angle).  The editing you mentioned would be cool and I wish we could do something like that, but it wouldn't really work with the movie starting following the probe headed for Hoth.  I think Luke seeing the probe is what they intended, not just a "meteor".

My problem now is that the General mentions all the meteor activity, but we never see any meteors, just one probe droid twice!  I think I mentioned it before, but it'd be cool to have some meteors falling in some of the scenes outside, and maybe adding a few in space headed towards the planet.

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Adywan - It was really nice to see that you added 'horns' to the 1st 'original' Wampa suit scenes near the beginning, to tie it in better with when we see it in the 'ice cave' scene.  However, I see that there is a bit of doubt over them so far.  As this is one of the touches that I personally hoped to see included, I'd like to offer a last suggestion on this aspect -  Firstly, as we have seen these shots so many times over the years, every addition is going to pop out at first.  However, I always wished that the various 'looks' of the Wampa had been more uniform overall.  As far as your added 'horns' on this preview go, I think you could amend them a little, so that they are even better.  What I think could improve them, is if you did the more rounded, more tapered, and more 'gnarly' ones that seem to start quite thickly, higher up on the sides of the Wampa's head, that were seen on the SE suit version.  The ones that you presently have, reminded me immediately of the shape of the 2nd 'original' Wampa suit, as seen 'lunging' at Luke, just before he cuts it's arm off.  I always thought that was the least- successful looking version of the suit, and the horns, along with it's 'sticking up' ears....  I see that in the initial reveal of the Wampa, that you have indeed added the other ear, so that it protrudes noticeably, just like the 2nd 'original' suit....but I think this is not as good a look as where we see LESS of the ears in the 1st 'original' suit, and that they look better half-glimpsed, and closer to the fur....as seen even in the SE version of the suit.

If you refer back to page 62, to my post third from the top, there are some amended comments about all this, along with the relevant screenshots that show at a glance, what I'm getting at.  It's not a big issue, but I'd be sorry to see nothing added here.  See what you think. 

 

ladyferry -  Thanks very much for your link.  Adywan's preview looks great.  Lots of great subtle touches already, and one that I notice now, is how the Hoth Planet 'rotates' a little, as the Probe closes in.  The 'rotation' of Tattooine Planet as the Falcon escaped from Mos Eisley was a big hit with me on his ANH:R!

doubleofive and Adywan - I'm having to do some rearranging of the screenshots due to some unforeseen software/'coding' issues on some.  Nothing that can't be overcome, but it's taking up a little more time I don't have enough of at present.  Soon enough though.  

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As far as your added 'horns' on this preview go, I think you could amend them a little, so that they are even better. What I think could improve them, is if you did the more rounded, more tapered, and more 'gnarly' ones that seem to start quite thickly, higher up on the sides of the Wampa's head

 

That's what I was going to say as well.  The idea of adding the horns is fine.  The problem is that this is a first pass, so maybe better elements could be found for the final horns.  The ones in there now look way too smooth, too even and symmetrical to be natural.

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In ImperialFighter's patented bolding important things way, here is what he means:

Adywan - It was really nice to see that you added 'horns' to the 1st 'original' Wampa suit scenes near the beginning,

 

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7512/ifpart1001eh6.jpg

 

to tie it in better with when we see it in the 'ice cave' scene.  However, I see that there is a bit of doubt over them so far.  As this is one of touches that I personally hoped to see included, I'd like to offer a last suggestion on this aspect -  Firstly, as we have seen these shots so many times over the years, every addition is going to pop out at first.  However, I always wished that the various 'looks' of the Wampa had been more uniform overall.  As far as your added 'horns' on this preview go, I think you could amend them a little, so that they are even better.  What I think could improve them, is if you did the more rounded, more tapered, and more 'gnarly' ones that seem to start quite thickly, higher up on the sides of the Wampa's head, that were seen on the SE suit version.

 

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4499/ifpart1005ry1.jpg

 

The ones that you presently have, reminded me immediately of the shape of the 2nd 'original' Wampa suit, as seen 'lunging' at Luke, just before he cuts it's arm off.

 

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3936/ifpart1007wr3.jpg

 

I always thought that was the least- successful looking version of the suit, and the horns, along with it's 'sticking up' ears....  I see that in the initial reveal of the Wampa, that you have indeed added the other ear, so that it protrudes noticeably, just like the 2nd 'original' suit....but I think this is not as good a look as where we see LESS of the ears in the 1st 'original' suit, and that they look better half-glimpsed, and closer to the fur....as seen even in the SE version of the suit.

 

I think that since you're probably cutting out the SE suit, it's better that it matched the "2nd 'original' suit" (actually the only original suit since the first is a puppet) if anything.  Seeing the horns at full speed on YouTube looked good, but I'm not sure how it looks at full 1080p.

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/931/wampaik4.jpg

Again, I think its fine if they were different wampas of perhaps even different sexes.  Like the female hunts while the male eats at home, like lions, but the horn differences more like the difference between cows and bulls.

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Very quickly before I have to leave for today -  this idea of 'different' Wampas sounds plausable enough when it's scrutinized here, but I myself never thought about all that on my first few viewings of the movie, and I'm not sure most others who saw it, did either, and the same goes for most who will see it for the first time in the future.  As it seemed to me at the time (and still is, I must say), that there was only one single Wampa involved, it has always 'jarred' that the appearance isn't the same, either during the original, nor in the SE version.  If this idea of different Wampa's is followed, then I'd rather just see the 1st appearance left alone altogether, to fully distinguish it from the 'other one' (presumably the 2nd original suit, with the smooth, sticking out horns and pointed ears), who's facial features don't even match at the end of the day.  However, in that event, it would be good if we could get the subtle 'glimpse' of a 'second one' in the cave, to really sell that idea then. 

Adywan -  Can you take the time to have a quick refresh of all the shots and comments on page 62, and rather than have the ears 'sticking up' so pointedly as seen in the 'lunging' 2nd original suit.... consider having them protrude no more than is seen in the third shot down there, where the second glimpse of the 1st original suit ('puppet') is pictured.  Whatever you decide will be fine, as it's definately a tricky one overall.

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ladyferry -  Thanks very much for your link.  Adywan's preview looks great.  Lots of great subtle touches already, and one that I notice now, is how the Hoth Planet 'rotates' a little, as the Probe closes in.  The 'rotation' of Tattooine Planet as the Falcon escaped from Mos Eisley was a big hit with me on his ANH:R!

 Thats okay babe! I keep them all together on youtube for all Adywan's fans to see, and also to be used for future reference to show how much an effect or scene has progressed. The only one that I haven't managed to get is the super extended Alderaan explosion, the one where the planet cracks open before blowing up. If theres anyone out there with it please post it so I can download it and put it on youtube with the rest? and If theres any others that I've missed please let me know also?

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ImperialFighter said:

ladyferry - Thanks very much for your link. Adywan's preview looks great. Lots of great subtle touches already, and one that I notice now, is how the Hoth Planet 'rotates' a little, as the Probe closes in. The 'rotation' of Tattooine Planet as the Falcon escaped from Mos Eisley was a big hit with me on his ANH:R!

Thats okay babe! I keep them all together on youtube for all Adywan's fans to see, and also to be used for future reference to show how much an effect or scene has progressed. The only one that I haven't managed to get is the super extended Alderaan explosion, the one where the planet cracks open before blowing up. If theres anyone out there with it please post it so I can download it and put it on youtube with the rest? and If theres any others that I've missed please let me know also?

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Troopermans back, below this in his fourm (sorry, just letting you know, he's here) And Great Work Ady.

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I think LadyFerry is speaking of the "deleted scene" version on the DVD.  Erik's archive version lacks the cracking from Star Trek: Enterprise.

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doubleofive said:

I think LadyFerry is speaking of the "deleted scene" version on the DVD.  Erik's archive version lacks the cracking from Star Trek: Enterprise.

 Yeah! thats the one, I have actually checked all of the videos kindly put up on: http://www.erikstormtrooper.com/adywan-anh/adywan-anh.htm but it hasn't got the deleted scene that I'm asking about. If you have a link to that particular download that would be fab?

I found this on youtube - it took some hunting! this is the clip I need to make the Revisited collection complete: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcWBVZIWfCk

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Not I.  I just have it on the DVD-9.  Someday I'll play with ripping DVDs so I can try my hand at some editing, but not today.

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I believe that the Wampa hand-puppet prop used in the attack-short had horns, just that they were covered over with white fur a little bit too much when the prop was made. What could be perceived as darker patches in his high cheek bones (...) are the horns.

I think those features should be used as starting points when painting the new horns, and let remain somewhat obscured, but not as much as before.


Btw, the hand-puppet has quite prominent ears, just that they are not seen from the angle used in the first shot.

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I think the horns look good in motion, I Don't mind if they were gone or if they stayed! By the way you remember Trooperman, well he is back, somebody say hi! Please.

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Darn double post!

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ok,

this was the best i could on short notice....

i'm not doing a frame by frame change...that would be too much for now..

 

the point is to give you an idea of the pacing, the color, the shots etc....

 

i'll be posting 3 short clips...check them out....pretty cool seeing the differences...[NOTE : THESE ARE NOT FRAME ACCURATE DUE TO CORRECTIONS************]

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link : http://rapidshare.com/files/134355818/esb-adySplit1080-1.avi.html

 

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Darth Lars said:

I believe that the Wampa hand-puppet prop used in the attack-short had horns, just that they were covered over with white fur a little bit too much when the prop was made. What could be perceived as darker patches in his high cheek bones (...) are the horns.

That's exactly what I was thinking when looking at those stills.

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