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doubleofive said:

Fjodin said:

Adywann, why you have decided to return original Boba voice... i mean he is a clone of Jango and his adult voise should be like jango and clones... or not?

 

Basically, it comes down to Temura Morrison's Boba voice was literally phoned in, and he just didn't have the same emotion for the lines.  So Ady's logic is who's to say that clones sound exactly like their "parent" or that Boba's and Jango's helmets maybe have a voice modulater built in.  The plan is to redo the voice of JANGO in the prequels to better match the OT, as it should have been in the beginning.

you said it all for me :)

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adywan said:

doubleofive said:

Fjodin said:

Adywann, why you have decided to return original Boba voice... i mean he is a clone of Jango and his adult voise should be like jango and clones... or not?

 

Basically, it comes down to Temura Morrison's Boba voice was literally phoned in, and he just didn't have the same emotion for the lines.  So Ady's logic is who's to say that clones sound exactly like their "parent" or that Boba's and Jango's helmets maybe have a voice modulater built in.  The plan is to redo the voice of JANGO in the prequels to better match the OT, as it should have been in the beginning.

you said it all for me :)

 

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Octorox said:

Fjodin said:

Sorry fro doble post, but adywan wahat do you think about this suggestions:

- Mynock in cave (maybe some small shots)

- Some At-ST at background in Hoth Battle, becausethere only 2 small shots.

- Star Destroyers bombard planet like here ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSSNonaBw-8  ) after destroying shealdor omething like this.

- Centinels Shutles from E4 (they re not EU) leaving hanger and going towards plaet, or something like this. Because there is no scene how Wader and snow trooper apeare on planet... They just entered the door :(

- Dagobah from E3 Deleted scene 

I have to second the suggestion about Dagobah from the deleted scene. The E3 look as viewed from space was green and lush and gave the planet a character of it's own. The E5 look was pretty bland and actually pretty indistinguishable from Hoth.

But the E3 version looked nothing like Dagobah looks in ESB . Just see just how misty and cloud covered Dagobah is. Luke can't see a thing when he enters the atmosphere so you wouldn't have seen all the surface from space. plus, don't forget that the colouring of the 2004 DVDs screw the planet up anyway.

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How much of Dagobah's surface do we see? A few square miles, tops? Who's to say it's all the same, all covered in cloud? Real planets aren't all uniform, nor are most of the planets in the series. I don't mind you keeping the E5 Dagobah, especially if you're planning to reinstate that deleted scene in E3, but there's no continuity reason for not using it.

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Adywan  Watched ESB last night noticed a couple of things both things are before Vader revels he is Lukes father " hope I didnt ruin it for anybody" anyway when Vader is coming out on the walkway he hits the wall on the right of him and there are sparks but in the next close up there are no marks on the wall also the three pipes the Vader cuts through the burn marks on whats left of the pipes look like black spray paint. I can give you the exact times later if need be.  

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Adywan  Watched ESB last night noticed a couple of things both things are before Vader revels he is Lukes father " hope I didnt ruin it for anybody" anyway when Vader is coming out on the walkway he hits the wall on the right of him and there are sparks but in the next close up there are no marks on the wall also the three pipes the Vader cuts through the burn marks on whats left of the pipes look like black spray paint. I can give you the exact times later if need be.  

Thanks, but it's ok i already know about these problems. i'll be doing something to fix it. :)

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How much of Dagobah's surface do we see? A few square miles, tops? Who's to say it's all the same, all covered in cloud? Real planets aren't all uniform, nor are most of the planets in the series. I don't mind you keeping the E5 Dagobah, especially if you're planning to reinstate that deleted scene in E3, but there's no continuity reason for not using it.

one of the biggest reasons not to use it for this is because its only available in DVD res and i'm working with 1080p. But also my thoughts about dagobah is that it was an ordinary swamp planet when Yoda first reached there but he needed to do something so he couldn't be detected and somehow, maybe through the force, made the atmosphere more dense so he wouldn't be detected, so the E3 version would look a lot different than the E5 version. 

 

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This Dagobah discussion brings up a question I had looking at all these screenshots for ImperialFighter.

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/705/bespincc4.jpg

Are there any plans to bring some more color to Bespin?  I mean besides better color balance.  It just looks so much like every other planet in this movie.

 

As for Dagobah, maybe you could put some cloud cover on the E3 one?  That would keep the two planets from looking so much alike.  I don't know, there's just so many CLOUDS in this movie...

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Youve  probably watched  it frame by frame with the color corrections so I dought there is much I could cath that you havent already, but if you dont mind I will throw my 2 cents in  so I can feel like I contributed something. There is also a shot when the snow speederes are takeing off and there looks to be some cables pulling one of them. I also noticed the PAL speed up With the opening crawl music, Am I right ?

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Fjodin said:

Adywann, why you have decided to return original Boba voice... i mean he is a clone of Jango and his adult voise should be like jango and clones... or not?

 

...if we keep to this logic, then ALL the stormtroopers dialogue would have to be re-recorded with Morrison's, Vader's voice should be re-recorded w/Hayden's, and Boushh's voice should be re-recorded with Carrie's etc. etc.

Simple fact that should shoot this argument down...wait for it...

 

The helmets have voice mods in them!

 

Vader and Boushh should be enough to debunk this 'myth' that his voice "has to sound like Jangos"

I don't have much experience with real life cloning and how identical one is from the other when both grow up separately, but I can guesstimate looking at twins, that there is no real proof to assume that his voice would be identical.

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Nice. Post more pics O5, because I can't play it Right it my VLC or that Media Player Adywan talked about.

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Besides "TEMP" no longer being written on the macrobinocular readout and the video of it flipped to match, there isn't anything else I noticed except some better color in a few places.

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doubleofive said:

I couldn't resist posting the two changes I noticed.  I won't directly put them on here till everyone has had a look, but I'll post the links for the curious:

Change 1

Change 2

change 2 looked really shopped in that video. I guess HD is a lot less forgiving! Of course, it's still in early development as well.

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Octorox said:

doubleofive said:

I couldn't resist posting the two changes I noticed.  I won't directly put them on here till everyone has had a look, but I'll post the links for the curious:

Change 1

Change 2

change 2 looked really shopped in that video. I guess HD is a lot less forgiving! Of course, it's still in early development as well.

 

I agree, and since it's such a good change, I hope Change 2 will look better in the finished product.

Also, if any other changes were made, please post pics.

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The part about the E3 scene not being available in HD is a good point. This is going to seriously limit your options when it comes to doing the PT — do you plan to do that in HD as well? Is the official PT available in HD? Are you banking on the films and/or deleted scenes becoming available between now and then? I'm particularly in favour of reinstating the scenes in ROTS that deal with the rise of the Rebellion.

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Octorox said:

doubleofive said:

I couldn't resist posting the two changes I noticed.  I won't directly put them on here till everyone has had a look, but I'll post the links for the curious:

Change 1

Change 2

change 2 looked really shopped in that video. I guess HD is a lot less forgiving! Of course, it's still in early development as well.

actually that's the best i'm going to get it at the moment. trying to find horns to match the wampa is hard enough but to get them in HD res then that's the killer.i haven't got a clue where i'd find some horns to match or come even close. i had to use a mixture of wampa & taun taun to do those shots.  then tracking those shots...man that's tough. if you think it looks crap then if i can't get it any better then i'll just have to drop it. This is the big hurdle i have to face now i'm working in HD. its a whole new ball game.

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Also, if any other changes were made, please post pics.

well you got those two. change 1 has 2 differences in it. 1 the taun taun runs faster and 2 i added footprints. apart from a slight change to the starfields & planet in the probe scenes at the beginning, nothing else has been changed

 

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adywan said:

Octorox said:

doubleofive said:

I couldn't resist posting the two changes I noticed.  I won't directly put them on here till everyone has had a look, but I'll post the links for the curious:

Change 1

Change 2

change 2 looked really shopped in that video. I guess HD is a lot less forgiving! Of course, it's still in early development as well.

actually thats the best i'm going to get it at the moment. trying to find horns to match the wampa is hard enough but to get them in HD res then thats the killer.i ahven't got a clue whwre i'd find some horns to match or come even close. i had to use a mixture of wampa & taun taun to do those shots.  then tracking those shots...man thats tough. if you think it looks crap then if i can't get it any better then i'll just have to drop it. This is the big hurdle i have to face now i'm working in HD. its a whole new ball game.

 

I've heard ideas given that the wampa that brought Luke to the cave is a different one that tried to stop him from escaping.  Perhaps even different sexes, like the female would have small tusks from the side of the mouth while the males have horns that come from the top of its head, or vice versa.  Honestly, I would just scrap it, though the tracking looked really good at the half speed I watched it at!  I'd hate to lose all that work I'm sure you did, but it may be for the best.

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Ady,

I'm not worried about Wampa horns, personally. Given the amount of perfection you demanded for SW:R, I have no doubts you'll either perfect or scrap the horns as you see fit. Seems to me that the majority of Empire's current problems all lie with the SE plague (color problems, Vader's shuttle, Boba's voice, Luke's joke removal, lightsaber inconsistencies) and maybe a handful of needed recomposites in the asteroid chase to remove junk mattes. The nice thing about Empire is that it was so finely crafted, Lucas can't seem to totally wreck it, no matter what kinds of bullets he fires, so you won't have to reinvent the wheel on this one like with all the other films.

 

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Wow, that file is too rich for MY computer, and I can manage to play 720p without dropping frames.

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adywan said:

Octorox said:

doubleofive said:

I couldn't resist posting the two changes I noticed.  I won't directly put them on here till everyone has had a look, but I'll post the links for the curious:

Change 1

Change 2

change 2 looked really shopped in that video. I guess HD is a lot less forgiving! Of course, it's still in early development as well.

actually that's the best i'm going to get it at the moment. trying to find horns to match the wampa is hard enough but to get them in HD res then that's the killer.i haven't got a clue where i'd find some horns to match or come even close. i had to use a mixture of wampa & taun taun to do those shots.  then tracking those shots...man that's tough. if you think it looks crap then if i can't get it any better then i'll just have to drop it. This is the big hurdle i have to face now i'm working in HD. its a whole new ball game.

 


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It looks very good to me. I agree with nohandluke about the wampa horns. If it wasn't for the still that was posted, I probably would not have noticed.

I don't know if anyone had trouble playing the file still but GOM Player is great - it plays just about anything.

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here's a set of comparison pics, of adywans hi-def sample, compared to an older HDTV version, 1080p also..based on the SE colors....

[i've reduced all pictures by 50% for easier posting/less bandwidth]

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and a few more..............

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The shot of the Star Destoyer looks so good it looks like a new shot !