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The Golden Idol said:

Fettclone1 said:

I haven't seen this brought up yet so I thought I'd chime in.

Vader only refers to Boba Fett as "bounty hunter", which then seems odd after Fett's character is built up due to popularity.

Any chance that Vader could refer to him by name?

With all due respect, that would be pointless. The movies should not be tailored simply to provide fan service for popular characters.

Perhaps a compromise could be reached, with Vader referring to him as "Bounty Hunter Fett"?

While I agree that providing fan service is unnecessary, I do feel that a character as important to the plot as Boba Fett should be named at least once, especially considering that he is referred to by name in RotJ without any proper introduction.

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nightstalkerpoet said:

 

The Golden Idol said:

Fettclone1 said:

I haven't seen this brought up yet so I thought I'd chime in.

Vader only refers to Boba Fett as "bounty hunter", which then seems odd after Fett's character is built up due to popularity.

Any chance that Vader could refer to him by name?

With all due respect, that would be pointless. The movies should not be tailored simply to provide fan service for popular characters.

Perhaps a compromise could be reached, with Vader referring to him as "Bounty Hunter Fett"?

While I agree that providing fan service is unnecessary, I do feel that a character as important to the plot as Boba Fett should be named at least once, especially considering that he is referred to by name in RotJ without any proper introduction.

"Bounty Hunter Fett?"

 Sounds pretty silly if you ask me.

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Really though, Boba Fett is a CHARACTER? Boba Fett is a PLOT DEVICE.

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whoa....who let the kids in?.......happy new year!!

J

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It's a title followed by a last name, seems pretty standard to me...

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Page 1000 on New Year's Eve!
Our edits can't repel fate of that magnitude!

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Vladius said:

Page 1000 on New Year's Eve!
Our edits can't repel fate of that magnitude!

Haha! Awesome. Happy 2012, everyone!

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nightstalkerpoet said:

 

It's a title followed by a last name, seems pretty standard to me...

 

I dunno, maybe it just sounds weird in my head.

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nightstalkerpoet said:

 

The Golden Idol said:

Fettclone1 said:

I haven't seen this brought up yet so I thought I'd chime in.

Vader only refers to Boba Fett as "bounty hunter", which then seems odd after Fett's character is built up due to popularity.

Any chance that Vader could refer to him by name?

With all due respect, that would be pointless. The movies should not be tailored simply to provide fan service for popular characters.

Perhaps a compromise could be reached, with Vader referring to him as "Bounty Hunter Fett"?

While I agree that providing fan service is unnecessary, I do feel that a character as important to the plot as Boba Fett should be named at least once, especially considering that he is referred to by name in RotJ without any proper introduction.

1. As ben_danger said: Boba Fett is not important as a character. He is simply a plot device.

2. There is no need for compromise because there is nothing missing. This is Ady's edit and it is not a democracy.

3. The true makers of The Empire Strikes Back respected their audience and knew they were smart enough to get into the character without having it all spelled out for him.  If you want things spelled out for you, go watch the Prequels.

4. Boba Fett not being named on-screen in ESB created a sci-fi version of "The Man with No Name" where fans could project their own imagination about how much of a mysterious badass he was. 

The truth is, the more we learned about Boba Fett from the movies, the less we liked him.  Just look at his pathetic origin story in the Prequels ("Get him, Dad! Get him! FIRE!!! Heheheheh...")

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1. A character as a plot device is still a character.

2. I have a huge amount of respect for Adywan. This may not be a democracy, but he has been very gracious in considering the different ideas and concepts presented to him on these forums. By attempting to fix what Lucas has corrupted, he exemplifies an anti-Lucas approach to his works by allowing others' input. By "compromise", i simply meant just another idea presented to Ady, that was a compromise of two other concepts/ideas.

3. I really don't feel passionate about Boba Fett one way or the other... but that's not a question of intelligence, simply a personal preference on storytelling/narrative techniques.

4. Because there wasn't enough to his character to intrigue me, I didn't really care that much to project my imagination on it. 

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^Boba Fett has been ruined by this "explain everything" attitude. Lucas could have still preserved the mystery of this character whilst making shit prequels, but he chose to take a shit on this fan favourite "cult" character as well as everything else. Urgh.

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I think Adywan is wise enough to keep Boba mysterious. And wise enough to make Jango mysterious, when he is up to doing the prequels.

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nightstalkerpoet said:

1. A character as a plot device is still a character.

Sort of missing the point though. Ultimatley every character is a Plot Device, but really, what does Boba Fett do other than add a bit of eye candy and remind us of Han Solo's plotline from ANH?

There will always be an issue of perspective with the OT as most of us played with out Boba Fett action figures and read about his wider exploits more than we watched the films.

Compare Boba Fett's role in ESB and the Holiday Special Cartoon. He is the story, therefor his naming is essential as we do not know his job role until much later on.

Also - how many things in ANH and ESB is never named? Tatooine, Lars (the surname), The Executor, Tie Bombers, Lobot etc etc. Conversely stuff is named but never shown which works awesomely - but that is something completely different.

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Fettclone1 said:

I haven't seen this brought up yet so I thought I'd chime in.

Vader only refers to Boba Fett as "bounty hunter", which then seems odd after Fett's character is built up due to popularity.

Any chance that Vader could refer to him by name?

Where could you find Vader/JEJ saying those lines?

J

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Happy New Year everyone. :)

 

Fingers crossed that this project will proceed without a hitch. Good luck Ady!

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One thousand pages! Is there any other thread this huge on the whole board?

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Long time lurker and frequent poster/donator on the Facebook page.  It's taken long enough to leave a post but at 1,000 pages and the start of the New Year, heck better now than never! ;)

Personally I like the idea of Vader referring to Fett as Bounty Hunter.  Actually I would have preferred it if Han referred to Fett by name the moment he shows himself at Cloud City.  A shame there was never a shot of Han saying his name in the next shot especially seeing him back at Mos Eisley.  Then again I do think Fett shouldn't have made an appearance during that Jabba scene.  Guess it's a good thing Ady had the scene deleted in his previous edit in the first place.

Going back to Han Solo.  Would have loved a look of chagrin on his face the moment Boba comes into the shot next to Vader - and then saying his name with disgust (reminds me of Wolverine and his past encounters with numerous villains). :)

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Jaitea said:

Fettclone1 said:

I haven't seen this brought up yet so I thought I'd chime in.

Vader only refers to Boba Fett as "bounty hunter", which then seems odd after Fett's character is built up due to popularity.

Any chance that Vader could refer to him by name?

Where could you find Vader/JEJ saying those lines?

J

 Eh, I figured it would be a matter of vocoder work.

 

As for the discussion of Fett's back story, yeah, Lucas killed teh "mystery man".

It's the same character, it's just certain people's attachment to their vision of him that's the problem.

Here's food for thought: When there was a poll on BobaFett.com years ago, the majority of people said they felt the same way about Boba after Ep II.

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Fettclone1 said:


Here's food for thought: When there was a poll on BobaFett.com years ago, the majority of people said they felt the same way about Boba after Ep II.
People on sites named after things tend to have opinions that they will always like the things on the site.

See "originaltrilogy.com". ;-)

But on topic, there is no reason for Vader to say or even acknowledge Boba except for "fan wankery". Such things are not what this edit is for. This is coming from the guy who is leading the charge on removing Boba from RotJR completely, so take from it what you will.

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Removing boba from jedi would not be a good move IMO. He has been part of Jedi since 83, And for the little time we saw him in jedi ( for better or for worse ), it would be a shame to take him out completely.

Ady could always change the events that caused boba's death. Anybody with an accurate constume and a HD camera can film some new footage for ady to insert in his edit.

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AuggieBenDoggie said:

Removing boba from jedi would not be a good move IMO. He has been part of Jedi since 83, And for the little time we saw him in jedi ( for better or for worse ), it would be a shame to take him out completely.

Ady could always change the events that caused boba's death. Anybody with an accurate constume and a HD camera can film some new footage for ady to insert in his edit.

Well, consider the character in question. Why would Boba Fett, one of the most ruthless and efficient Bounty Hunters in the galaxy, be at Jabba's Palace doing nothing? He comes off more like a Body Guard to Jabba than a Bounty Hunter for hire. His very presence was all about keeping a cool character in the story no matter how illogical it was. There's no reason for him to be there, and there certainly isn't any reason for him to be on the sail barge during the sarlacc battle.

The only way I can see Boba Fett working in ROTJ is if the following conditions are met.

1. He just delivered a bounty for Jabba JUST before Luke made his entrance and was going to enjoy Jabba's hospitalities for one day.

2. He gets invited to the sarlacc execution, but doesn't take part in the battle when Luke and company break out. Jabba than makes Bobba a HUGE offer if he captures/kills Luke, Han and Chewie, which Boba finally agrees and takes part in the battle.

Coincidental? Maybe, but at least it's not out of character.

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Maybe he just hung around to 'play' with the chicks!!  I would...Even Bounty Hunters need time off!!!

As for the Sail Barge...Watching Solo and his pals die is a way of keeping entertained for a while...and when things went to shit, he tried to help out...Sort of like getting brownie points off Jabba....

 

 

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HotRod said:

Maybe he just hung around to 'play' with the chicks!!  I would...Even Bounty Hunters need time off!!!

That's a pretty long time to hand around, especially since this film is supposed to take place years after ESB. And why Tatooine of all places, especially with a gang lord?

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I don't think Fett needs to be in RotJ.  He is a mysterious character and needs no formal entrance or fanfare exit.  He is just there to do a job, gets it done, and then is gone.  End of story.  However, Lando's line (in ESB) about '...catching up with that bounty hunter...' would certainly appear to be a lead-in to seeing Fett in RotJ.

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