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vaderios said:
HotRod said:

Ok, I'm confused by the above pic. Who's that sitting behing Leia?

Luke!

 

Yep, that's me being up to early with my kids. Was still half asleep.

 

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adywan said:
Dangerous Incorporated said:
adywan said:
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Uncanny Antman said:
Dangerous Incorporated said:

Yes its just before Han enters the command center. It was shown on the 1997 theatrical release but removed on the VHS release.

Mmmm.   Not to sound doubtful, but the "I saw it once but it was cut out on the VHS/DVD" memory phenomenon seems to happen a lot in the SW community.

 

 

It wasnt just me but a group of us that went and noticed we had never seen that shot before but when the VHS came out it wasnt on it.

there was only ever one version of the 1997 theatrical SE which all prints were taken from. the VHS & laserdisc were exactly the same as the theatrical release as they were taken from those prints. there was never an extra shot added before han enters the command centre. there was a bootleg VHS copy of ESB SE floating around which was filmed in the cinema and there was no extra shots. it was exactly the same as the VHS which is why i never kept it.  This is the same type of thing that happened with ANH when people swear that they saw Luke miss with the grappling hook and that the Luke & Biggs scene was shown in theatres. memory is a funny thing.

 

Some Canadian theatrical prints of the 1997 "Special Edition" contained an added scene just before Han is shown entering the command centre on Hoth. The shot is inside the command centre and focusses on a "white C-3PO" using a penlight on a glass map. Then, the movie continues as normal and Han is shown entering the command centre. This scene was not present on the video release.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080684/alternateversions

 

 I googled it and found on IMDB that there was a shot before Han entered the command center and that this isnt just me and my 5 friends thinking we remembered something. Its true that there was another scene.

Don't believe everything you read on IMDB. Anyone can add so called facts on this site. they add them all the time and many have been proved wrong.

 

Well I would love to be proved wrong here because as I said its not just me that remembers it but a group of us and then I find online verification which cant be all coincidence.

 

I also just saw this on IMDB. Is this footage available anywhere even in rough form?:

Further scenes with the Wampa were shot, and later cut. R2-D2 encountered one within the Rebel base, where it was killed by troopers. Later, the beasts were lured into a prison within the complex. In the completed film, a medical droid is seen examining the wounds of a tauntaun killed by a Wampa, and Princess Leia mentions the "creatures" while discussing the Imperial probe droid. A scene filmed but cut had Han, Leia and C-3PO running through a corridor. Han went to take a short-cut through a door with a sign on it, but Leia warned him "that's where those creatures are kept". They run off, but not before C-3PO rips off the sign, hoping that the stormtroopers will enter the room

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080684/trivia

 

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"They said to me: There will be a movie and we need a scene of a bunch of people rising their hands. Just wait for the signal!" So i did it! Oh no I looked to the camera... :(

 

-Angel

 

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Dangerous Incorporated said:
adywan said:
Dangerous Incorporated said:
adywan said:
Dangerous Incorporated said:
Uncanny Antman said:
Dangerous Incorporated said:

Yes its just before Han enters the command center. It was shown on the 1997 theatrical release but removed on the VHS release.

Mmmm.   Not to sound doubtful, but the "I saw it once but it was cut out on the VHS/DVD" memory phenomenon seems to happen a lot in the SW community.

 

 

It wasnt just me but a group of us that went and noticed we had never seen that shot before but when the VHS came out it wasnt on it.

there was only ever one version of the 1997 theatrical SE which all prints were taken from. the VHS & laserdisc were exactly the same as the theatrical release as they were taken from those prints. there was never an extra shot added before han enters the command centre. there was a bootleg VHS copy of ESB SE floating around which was filmed in the cinema and there was no extra shots. it was exactly the same as the VHS which is why i never kept it.  This is the same type of thing that happened with ANH when people swear that they saw Luke miss with the grappling hook and that the Luke & Biggs scene was shown in theatres. memory is a funny thing.

 

Some Canadian theatrical prints of the 1997 "Special Edition" contained an added scene just before Han is shown entering the command centre on Hoth. The shot is inside the command centre and focusses on a "white C-3PO" using a penlight on a glass map. Then, the movie continues as normal and Han is shown entering the command centre. This scene was not present on the video release.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080684/alternateversions

 

 I googled it and found on IMDB that there was a shot before Han entered the command center and that this isnt just me and my 5 friends thinking we remembered something. Its true that there was another scene.

Don't believe everything you read on IMDB. Anyone can add so called facts on this site. they add them all the time and many have been proved wrong.

 

Well I would love to be proved wrong here because as I said its not just me that remembers it but a group of us and then I find online verification which cant be all coincidence.

 

I also just saw this on IMDB. Is this footage available anywhere even in rough form?:

Further scenes with the Wampa were shot, and later cut. R2-D2 encountered one within the Rebel base, where it was killed by troopers. Later, the beasts were lured into a prison within the complex. In the completed film, a medical droid is seen examining the wounds of a tauntaun killed by a Wampa, and Princess Leia mentions the "creatures" while discussing the Imperial probe droid. A scene filmed but cut had Han, Leia and C-3PO running through a corridor. Han went to take a short-cut through a door with a sign on it, but Leia warned him "that's where those creatures are kept". They run off, but not before C-3PO rips off the sign, hoping that the stormtroopers will enter the room

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080684/trivia

 

I GUARANTEE you that you're just thinking of the pan & scan version, which cuts off the sides of the film to fit it on a "fullscreen" 1.33:1 TV.  That shot has always been there, I remember it, it's on my GOUT DVD.  IIRC it's *after* Han enters the base, but I could be wrong.  If not, I highly, highly doubt that there were two identical shots, one right before Han enters, and one right after.

And about the extra Wampa stuff, I don't believe much of the footage has ever been released other than a few moments in trailers (like C-3PO tearing the sign off the wall).

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I GUARANTEE you that you're just thinking of the pan & scan version, which cuts off the sides of the film to fit it on a "fullscreen" 1.33:1 TV.  That shot has always been there, I remember it, it's on my GOUT DVD.  IIRC it's *after* Han enters the base, but I could be wrong.  If not, I highly, highly doubt that there were two identical shots, one right before Han enters, and one right after.

And about the extra Wampa stuff, I don't believe much of the footage has ever been released other than a few moments in trailers (like C-3PO tearing the sign off the wall).

Do they show P&S versions at the theatre? Cuz thats were I saw it and Im sure it was widescreen.

 

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Ady a note: The wall behind lando appears to be white instead of orange. and the lights has two colors. Any chance the colors to be more unite betwin shots?

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Dangerous Incorporated said:
ChainsawAsh said:

I GUARANTEE you that you're just thinking of the pan & scan version, which cuts off the sides of the film to fit it on a "fullscreen" 1.33:1 TV.  That shot has always been there, I remember it, it's on my GOUT DVD.  IIRC it's *after* Han enters the base, but I could be wrong.  If not, I highly, highly doubt that there were two identical shots, one right before Han enters, and one right after.

And about the extra Wampa stuff, I don't believe much of the footage has ever been released other than a few moments in trailers (like C-3PO tearing the sign off the wall).

Do they show P&S versions at the theatre? Cuz thats were I saw it and Im sure it was widescreen.

Well, if you saw it in theaters and it wasn't there on video, you saw the P&S version on video which cropped out the protocol droid.  That was my point.  It's there on the widescreen version, it's not there on the P&S version.

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vaderios said:

...just a thought:

Why the falcon is heading upwards when the hyperdrive is active again? Perhaps they tried to achieve the boost.

But what if the camera has a more straight angle?

Monroville said:

Shouldn't the stars be "streakier" (to match the front cockpit shots with the long star streaks)?

The MF is heading upward because when R2 're-fixed' the hyperdrive, the Nava-computer altered the course of the ship before they actually made the jump to lite-speed.

 

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Davnes007 said:

The MF is heading upward because when R2 're-fixed' the hyperdrive, the Nava-computer altered the course of the ship before they actually made the jump to lite-speed.

 

That doenst means that a ship is behave like a car...

From the Boost the crew should be pushed back.

 

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adywan said:
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Something that CAN fixed. Obvious he is not David. Armor and mask floating...

Even when he rotates there is a previous shot that can be used reversed.

 

-Angel

what's throwing this scene off is the fact that the helmet is underneath the chest plate armour for some reason. i'm going to leave it as it is though. It looks to me more that Vader had to quickly replace the helmet when Piette entered and that the suit isn't on correctly. Not only that but changing the helmet in a shot where he spins around in the chair probably couldn't be pulled off

 

Boo! I really hoped that the helmet and armor screw up would be fixed. :(

 

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vaderios said:
Davnes007 said:

The MF is heading upward because when R2 're-fixed' the hyperdrive, the Nava-computer altered the course of the ship before they actually made the jump to lite-speed.

That doenst means that a ship is behave like a car...

From the Boost the crew should be pushed back.

-Angel

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They are moving upwards, AND forwards. That's why they get pushed back into their seats.

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They are moving upwards, AND forwards. That's why they get pushed back into their seats.

I still disagree with the up move. Anyways.

Boo! I really hoped that the helmet and armor screw up would be fixed. :(

Yeah. I still insist that its way to fixed. Even when vader spins..

 

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adywan said:
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vaderios said:

Something that CAN fixed. Obvious he is not David. Armor and mask floating...

Even when he rotates there is a previous shot that can be used reversed.

 

-Angel

what's throwing this scene off is the fact that the helmet is underneath the chest plate armour for some reason. i'm going to leave it as it is though. It looks to me more that Vader had to quickly replace the helmet when Piette entered and that the suit isn't on correctly. Not only that but changing the helmet in a shot where he spins around in the chair probably couldn't be pulled off

 

Boo! I really hoped that the helmet and armor screw up would be fixed. :(

 

I don't see it as a goof! it's his posture, and he somehow looks even more pissed in the hunched down original one, I hope it stay the way it is!

 

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vaderios said:
Davnes007 said:

The MF is heading upward because when R2 're-fixed' the hyperdrive, the Nava-computer altered the course of the ship before they actually made the jump to lite-speed.

 

That doenst means that a ship is behave like a car...

From the Boost the crew should be pushed back.

 

-Angel

Edit: Here is my try on the wall.

I just noticed the wall on the far left goes out a bit further than the wider shot showing the city buildings, nobody noticed that???

 

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Sevb32 said:I just noticed the wall on the far left goes out a bit further than the wider shot showing the city building, nobody noticed that???

 

I dont see that is  wider. Just it messed with the closed up.

 

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Looks ever so slightly wider, a tiny crop would fix it.

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vaderios said:

They are moving upwards, AND forwards. That's why they get pushed back into their seats.

I still disagree with the up move. Anyways.

Boo! I really hoped that the helmet and armor screw up would be fixed. :(

Yeah. I still insist that its way to fixed. Even when vader spins..

 

-Angel

If someone could do a simple GIF showing the corrected helmet it might show how viable the change is and how much it adds to the scene.

 

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Monroville said:

(2) Could you do some mock-ups to show something like 8 to 12 (or more, like an entire squadron of) TIEs following after the MF (maybe one shot underneath Bespin, one in planet orbit and a third by the side of the Executor)?

"12 fighters against a millennium falcon?" I think the fighters lead the ship to Executor for the tractor beam not meant to destroy it :)

-Angel

But that's my point: they wouldn't be ordered to DESTROY the MF, but to herd it to the Executor.  The whole idea is that Piett and the Executor crew are so determined NOT to screw up that they overkill the situation and as a result the TIEs that are herding the MF to the Executor get in the way of making a tractor beam lock.  The TIEs would fire but wouldn't have to hit the Falcon (just shoot around it), much less hit it at full power.

 

         

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It always bugged me the complete lack of tie fighters sent after the Falcon all throughout Empire. Were there financial cutbacks or something? Why send only 4-5 tie fighters after the Falcon when it leaves Hoth? There are three star destroyers out there and I believe (dont quote me) that those SDs hold something in the neighborhood of 72 tie fighters a piece and they only send 4? Send 20, they could all run into each other and rocks in the asteroid field but at least it would be more logical.

Same goes with leaving Bespin. I like the idea of them hearding the Falcon with multiple ties. It would make the fact that the Falcon ends up 3 feet from that one Destroyer make a lot more sense. ALOT more. Then R2 fixes the hyperdrive and away they go.

As far as the Falcon going up AND forward after the HD is activated....well, no that doesnt make any sense but Im so used to that scene doing that...I think it should be left alone.

My two cents....

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AxiaEuxine said:

 Were there financial cutbacks or something?

Probably seems the Empire had to build a 2nd Death Star. Those things arent cheap!!

 

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AxiaEuxine said:

It always bugged me the complete lack of tie fighters sent after the Falcon all throughout Empire. Were there financial cutbacks or something? Why send only 4-5 tie fighters after the Falcon when it leaves Hoth? There are three star destroyers out there and I believe (dont quote me) that those SDs hold something in the neighborhood of 72 tie fighters a piece and they only send 4? Send 20, they could all run into each other and rocks in the asteroid field but at least it would be more logical.

Same goes with leaving Bespin. I like the idea of them hearding the Falcon with multiple ties. It would make the fact that the Falcon ends up 3 feet from that one Destroyer make a lot more sense. ALOT more. Then R2 fixes the hyperdrive and away they go.

As far as the Falcon going up AND forward after the HD is activated....well, no that doesnt make any sense but Im so used to that scene doing that...I think it should be left alone.

My two cents....

With reason why entire stardestroyers pursuit a small ship like the MF. Ah yes TIEs are short range fighters....

 

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vaderios said:

They are moving upwards, AND forwards. That's why they get pushed back into their seats.

I still disagree with the up move. Anyways.

-Angel

I did a really quick & dirty edit of that particular moment, and in my eyes, the ship staying straight looks really silly.

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