STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW — Page 99

so have him prep his comments, send them to you,and you post them all together

he's the one who asked you to take them, if I'm not mistaken... so he should already have an idea of what you have and what to comment on them...

GoodMusician said:

so have him prep his comments, send them to you,and you post them all together

he's the one who asked you to take them, if I'm not mistaken... so he should already have an idea of what you have and what to comment on them...

I'll try to convince him of that.

Darth Solo said:

*Sigh*

Thing is, to Mr. Joe Pubilc, I dont get the full HD, brand.

If my current set-up thats cost me a measly couple of grand, upscales a DVD9 and im happy with it, that doesnt outshine the lastest benchmark 'full HD' transfer in any major groundbreaking way, i ask, why now?  

There has not been anywhere near the impact of showing any of my friends a full HD movie, compaired to showing them YOUR Star Wars:Revisited (and most of them dont really 'get' Star Wars, but we all love movies). So, for me, why alter a formula you have already mastered? And, expecially if it makes some things youve mastered difficult, then why?

Dont for one second see DVD as old technology (as then the industry that gave us DRM has already won, and would we even been discussing this?), until im inevitably proved wrong (and i even buy most of their crap).

You still have HD encodes tackle it again when (A):storage is cheeper than it is now. (B):you have pushed your bounderies beyond your limitations. (3):Blu-Ray re-writable media maybe readily accessible. And, (IV):ultimatly, when Lucas film out-do you with their eventual, long way off, enough adopters of HD technology, release of their SE Blu-Ray original trilogy, that most of us will buy, but never really love, like what YOU can do now, why not out-do them using their HD source after they release it too all us suckers, and show them up a second time?

Well today i was pondering giving up on the 1080p transfer and switch back to the 720p version. I ran some tests to see how much detail would be lost when downconverting to 720p and i was surprised that there was a noticeable difference.  here's a screenshot that demonstrates what i mean. The DVD res & 720p has been upconverted to 1080p for a side by side comparison. Just look at the detail lost on his hat.

That's a noticable difference.Upconverting will never recover the lost detail no matter how good the upconverter is. So i think i'll just have to suffer the extra space and rendering time needed to retain this detail. Having a 1080p Tv myself i want the best quality for this edit .

I don't see DVD as old technology as there will still be DVD versions of this edit but i have HD technology and a HD version is what i want.

Something i did find out about HD is that the quality will always depend on what it is watched on. A mate of mine has a 1080p 42" samsung HDTV and was always moaning about how little difference there was between DVD through his PS3 and the Blu-Rays & AVCHDs he has watched on it. I was surprised by this so took my copy of the AVCHD i did of AOTC and i was shocked at how bad it looked on this Sammy (3 month old). I checked his settings on the TV and there was nothing wrong with them. So i told him to come round and see it on my 42" 1080p LG TV . needless to say he was a bit pissed off when he saw how good it looked on mine and now wishes he'd gone with the LG (like i had tried to tell him before). Even on my next door neighbours Sony Bravia 42" its wasn't as clear (but close) as on mine.

ben_danger said:

makes sense. one thread to rule them all...

 

personally id prefer to see it on the terminal, it would most likely get buried in this thread and lost within a few days.:P

I can post a link to the screenshots on the first page so it will be asy for anyone to find them

My vote is, YES for 1080p!  It's as close as we can get to "future proofing" this edit for future generations!  Future generations who deserve to see every thread in Ozzel's hat!

of course go for 1080p if that's what makes you happy - i'm sure if you don't, you'll regret that in a few years

what i wonder is - am i the only one who thinks the dvd pic looks better than the 720p???

sorry for the double post

damn those invisible buttons

professa skiving at work said:

of course go for 1080p if that's what makes you happy - i'm sure if you don't, you'll regret that in a few years

what i wonder is - am i the only one who thinks the dvd pic looks better than the 720p???

I think that there's not enough noticable difference in 720p to 480i to make that worth it if you just go by that screenshot, but the difference between the 1080p and the 480i is pretty awesome.

doubleofive said:

professa skiving at work said:

of course go for 1080p if that's what makes you happy - i'm sure if you don't, you'll regret that in a few years

what i wonder is - am i the only one who thinks the dvd pic looks better than the 720p???

I think that there's not enough noticable difference in 720p to 480i to make that worth it if you just go by that screenshot, but the difference between the 1080p and the 480i is pretty awesome.

 Blimey! that screenshot really shows greasy pores! shame there wasn't any pore minimiser moisturiser in those days...

When Ozzel's age you reach, look as good your pores will not, hmm? *cough cough*

the dvd quality makes his lips look clearer than the 780... how strange is that... and the hair by his ear looks clearer...

are you sure you put them in the right order?

Maybe the downconversion from 1080 is the problem... maybe something that'll preserve more quality...

GoodMusician said:

the dvd quality makes his lips look clearer than the 780... how strange is that... and the hair by his ear looks clearer...

 

are you sure you put them in the right order?

 

Maybe the downconversion from 1080 is the problem... maybe something that'll preserve more quality...

 

 

Yeh, they're definitely in the correct order. Just look at the horizontal detail on his hat in the 720p version compared to it being non existent in the DVD version. The vertical detail may have been lost in the 720p pic due to the positioning in photoshop (maybe a 0.5 pixel difference which can cause the vertical detail to blur slightly.) but i wanted to show the horizontal detail in the hat so i didn't check that.

ImperialFighter said:

Adywan -  Just to clarify, do you mean you would still prefer this sequence featuring some 'mock-up' proposals, put on here, rather than GoodMusician's thread?

I know you didn't want a seperate one for them, and I'd suggested to doubleofive that we ask yourself and GoodMusician if we could perhaps put it at the end of his related Adywan's 'Empire' edit:SUMMARY CONTROL one, where the ideas are gathered in an at-a-glance manner.   Basically, because we wouldn't have been restricted with the screenshot sizes we then chose.  There are indeed 63 shots in total, but we have a compromise in sizes ready for this main thread if you still wish it on here.  We would show the 'mock-ups' at a certain moderate size, and the 'unaltered' ones would be done in a smaller 'thumbnail' manner.  This is still okay to show what I intended, and won't take long to scroll down past at the end of the day.

Thanks for offering to put a link to them on your first page, but that isn't really necessary, as it is really just something showing some ideas that you may or may not like, for you to consider along the way.  If we were indicated to put them on a seperate thread or GoodMusicians, we were just going to indicate on here where they were, so that everyone else could go to have a look too, if interested.  I can't wait to see what you end up putting in these 'mocked-up' areas yourself (if anything at all!), but it's just to show a couple of possibilities that don't need extensive, complicated work (easy for me to say!) for you to mull over.

Either way, the whole thing is very nearly ready, and I will make time to add the comments (or give them to doubleofive to also include for me) very soon, for you and others to have a look at.

If you can post the screenshots in here then that would be best then we can use GoodMusicans thread to remain as text based which will make things easier. Don't worry about the screenshot sizes. just post them whichever size you were going to post them

adywan said:

ImperialFighter said:

Adywan -  Just to clarify, do you mean you would still prefer this sequence featuring some 'mock-up' proposals, put on here, rather than GoodMusician's thread?

I know you didn't want a seperate one for them, and I'd suggested to doubleofive that we ask yourself and GoodMusician if we could perhaps put it at the end of his related Adywan's 'Empire' edit:SUMMARY CONTROL one, where the ideas are gathered in an at-a-glance manner.   Basically, because we wouldn't have been restricted with the screenshot sizes we then chose.  There are indeed 63 shots in total, but we have a compromise in sizes ready for this main thread if you still wish it on here.  We would show the 'mock-ups' at a certain moderate size, and the 'unaltered' ones would be done in a smaller 'thumbnail' manner.  This is still okay to show what I intended, and won't take long to scroll down past at the end of the day.

Thanks for offering to put a link to them on your first page, but that isn't really necessary, as it is really just something showing some ideas that you may or may not like, for you to consider along the way.  If we were indicated to put them on a seperate thread or GoodMusicians, we were just going to indicate on here where they were, so that everyone else could go to have a look too, if interested.  I can't wait to see what you end up putting in these 'mocked-up' areas yourself (if anything at all!), but it's just to show a couple of possibilities that don't need extensive, complicated work (easy for me to say!) for you to mull over.

Either way, the whole thing is very nearly ready, and I will make time to add the comments (or give them to doubleofive to also include for me) very soon, for you and others to have a look at.

If you can post the screenshots in here then that would be best then we can use GoodMusicans thread to remain as text based which will make things easier. Don't worry about the screenshot sizes. just post them whichever size you were going to post them

I have the forum code ready and everything uploaded to Photobucket (which I've not used before, I hope everyone can see them).  I also sent the code to Imperial Fighter, so either way we're going to try to combine them together the best we can.  He may have forgotten some things, but we could just edit the main posts.

I too, can't wait to see what you do with these suggestions, because we worked hard on these, mostly because we tried doing it pretty unorganized through random emails.  If there is a next time (which there might be!), we're going to plan this out much better, streamline it a bit.  If you're interested, of course.

I hope these live up to the hype ImpFight and I are making...

I'll add a teaser, some unaltered shots to test Photobucket for everyone.

It's just typo-age. IMP needs to be IMG, and you need to add a ] at the very end.

[IMG not [IMP

and you forgot the close bracket ] on the end there.  Copy and paste, all the info is there for you!

That's what I said.

RoccondilRinon said:

That's what I said.

Yes but I mentioned copy and pasting because I already worked out all the coding FOR him! :-P

Fjodin said:

Does it possible to add At-At Barge into movie

Sorry, but no. i won't be adding anything from the EU