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Ady; just curious, is the HD version the only version thats going to use the x264 codec?
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Sevb32 - Patience, you must learn patience....I think you'll find this baby's got a few surprises to come....
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Sevb32 said:
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Sevb32, what the hell are you talking about? How is this a dead thread? I posted here yesterday and added new screenshots the same day. I can't be here 24/7. i have had a great deal to do with the colour correction and have just started to render the first pass (which is estimated by after effects to take 47 hours to finish so far). So please stop posting such stupid remarks like that.
Don' make me angry. you won't like me when i'm angry.
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AuggieBenDoggie said:
Ady; just curious, is the HD version the only version thats going to use the x264 codec?
yes.
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Man, it's already been four minutes since someone last posted... You know what that means.
Oh, I was wondering if anyone has any pictures handy of Vader's old school shuttle. I couldn't really find anything , though I haven't done a real exhaustive search or anything. I'd love to see the detail on the model. Kinda reminds me of an episode of Reading Rainbow where Mr. Burton went behind the scenes on TNG and showed the model for a shuttlecraft. The thrusters were disposable razors. :)
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I just said that so someone would prove me wrong today. lol
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Sevb32 said:
I just said that so someone would prove me wrong today. lol
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Shall I get Rid of the meatbag master? Oh ya, LOL
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Further to my previous post, is there anything that can be done to matte paintings like the one I mentioned (other than time consuming CGI replacements)? I'm not sure if that one and the similar one in ROTJ look so bad because of the painting or whether is just the way it was composited with the live action footage (other paintings work beautifully throughout the saga). Viewing that particular scene again I'm not even sure if the scene is essential and perhaps the easiest clean up is just to remove it alltogether.
I'm also divided as to whether Empire would be better starting with the Star Destroyer slowly crawling overhead as in ANH and ROTJ (only not getting cut off as in Jedi) or leaving it as it is.
The Star Destroyer does look a bit lost and lonely in that opening shot.
Another possible option would roll down from the scroll to reveal the surface of Hoth and then see the Star Destroyer jump into the system (possibly with a few back up ships) in one shot rather than just have the poor dear hanging there.
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Bingowings said:
Further to my previous post, is there anything that can be done to matte paintings like the one I mentioned (other than time consuming CGI replacements)? I'm not sure if that one and the similar one in ROTJ look so bad because of the painting or whether is just the way it was composited with the live action footage (other paintings work beautifully throughout the saga). Viewing that particular scene again I'm not even sure if the scene is essential and perhaps the easiest clean up is just to remove it alltogether.
I'm also divided as to whether Empire would be better starting with the Star Destroyer slowly crawling overhead as in ANH and ROTJ (only not getting cut off as in Jedi) or leaving it as it is.
The Star Destroyer does look a bit lost and lonely in that opening shot.
Another possible option would roll down from the scroll to reveal the surface of Hoth and then see the Star Destroyer jump into the system (possibly with a few back up ships) in one shot rather than just have the poor dear hanging there.
I see no problem with the stardestroyer at the beginning. It is, after all, deploying several probe droids. I think that the Empire would scatter the Stardestroyers throughout the galaxy to give the widest search range for the probes, so it would be on its own.It also wouldn't make sense having the stardestroyer jump out of hyperspace above Hoth at the beginning because the rebels would have been alerted immediately to the imperials presence which would contradict most of the first part of the movie
I am going to be trying to do something with all the matte paintings in the movie. The main problem with the live action with the paintings is because using old bluescreen technology, the mate edges are very harsh and this makes any movement in front of the painting looks strange because any of the motion blur edges are gone.
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are you going to add a more interesting background for when boba is loading hab into slave I? its not like the camera is looking up at him, and it would look a bit less plain if there is some buildings behind him.
i really love the claustrophobic interiors of cloud city, almost like a polished white dungeon. but the exterior was always a bit empty feeling. it shouldnt become a mini coruscant, but perhaps just a bit more intimidating, like they are being watched by the looming architecture.
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I Will start adding to the input train once Ady say's he's done the color work. Untill then, I will sit down with A cup of Blue Milk and read on!
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Josh said:
I Will start adding to the input train once Ady say's he's done the color work. Untill then, I will sit down with A cup of Blue Milk and read on!
I think its going to be a long time yet before the colour work is done. Hard drive space is a huge factor with this along with rendering times. I've almost finished the first pass colour correction on ESB. Rendering times are horrendous even with a quad core. Its taking 17mins per 1 minute of footage on average. But thats down to the amount of colour filters i'm using. Now the resulting size is a major issue too. almost 300gb per render which is eating up any space i had. So i have to use 1 uncorrected layer, 1st pass colour corrected layer, colour correction mask layers, final colour corrected layer then output to the final render with all editing done. So thats around 1.5TB needed just for the main video layers alone. On top of that there are all the minor tweaks to some shots after tha correction passes are done. So it all mounts up. I just haven't got enough space at the moment so i'm trying to free up some, if i can, or i'll have to get more storage space.
Maybe switching to 1080p wasn't such a good idea after all
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Maybe you could steal a Supercomputer for the day.
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adywan said:
I see no problem with the stardestroyer at the beginning. It is, after all, deploying several probe droids. I think that the Empire would scatter the Stardestroyers throughout the galaxy to give the widest search range for the probes, so it would be on its own.It also wouldn't make sense having the stardestroyer jump out of hyperspace above Hoth at the beginning because the rebels would have been alerted immediately to the imperials presence which would contradict most of the first part of the movie
Agreed.
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perhaps you could take donations to include token adverts for sponsorship?
"maybe you will like to join me for a little refreshment?"
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LOL thats good. But 1.5 TB! Im not even going to mention about making backups of your masters after what happened last time then!
Did you not have some indication of how big this maybe on the strength of your last edit though, before touting an all singing all dancing full HD release. Sorry if your thinking im speaking out of term just by asking.
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Adywan - you seem to be a guy that thinks BIG! However, I for one was more than delighted with the eventual quality of your 'Star Wars:Revisited' DVD-9.... Don't overstretch if it's gonna give you too many headaches on this whole thing. Just saying. Good luck.
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Josh said:
I Will start adding to the input train once Ady say's he's done the color work. Untill then, I will sit down with A cup of Blue Milk and read on!
If we over tax poor Adywan he might end up colour correcting the entire universe (you know, the real one?).
In which case your blue milk will turn white.
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adywan said:
I'm hoping to do something with the mattes in most of the bespin shots as they really stick out as paintings. The clouds need to be real and i'm hunting around in my HD collection for movies that feature above the cloud shots that i can use. It would have been so much easier if i had stuck to DVD res instead of 1080p.
I'm almost done with the first pass colour correction so here's a few screenshots of how its going so far:
I'm going to miss that blue-ish hue on Dagobah :) - Great work Ady!
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Perhaps if you decide to go back to a 480p release, you can encode the HD color corrected work at 480p, and start on that as your master file. There shouldn't be any quality loss, since it's been down-converted from a 1080p source, and it would free up a ton of space, and speed up rendering time, having excised the multiple layers of color passes. Of course it wouldn't be free of further tweaking after the first few passes, but it seems as though it would free up a lot of work.
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adywan said:
Bingowings said:
Further to my previous post, is there anything that can be done to matte paintings like the one I mentioned (other than time consuming CGI replacements)? I'm not sure if that one and the similar one in ROTJ look so bad because of the painting or whether is just the way it was composited with the live action footage (other paintings work beautifully throughout the saga). Viewing that particular scene again I'm not even sure if the scene is essential and perhaps the easiest clean up is just to remove it alltogether.
I'm also divided as to whether Empire would be better starting with the Star Destroyer slowly crawling overhead as in ANH and ROTJ (only not getting cut off as in Jedi) or leaving it as it is.
The Star Destroyer does look a bit lost and lonely in that opening shot.
Another possible option would roll down from the scroll to reveal the surface of Hoth and then see the Star Destroyer jump into the system (possibly with a few back up ships) in one shot rather than just have the poor dear hanging there.
I see no problem with the stardestroyer at the beginning. It is, after all, deploying several probe droids. I think that the Empire would scatter the Stardestroyers throughout the galaxy to give the widest search range for the probes, so it would be on its own.It also wouldn't make sense having the stardestroyer jump out of hyperspace above Hoth at the beginning because the rebels would have been alerted immediately to the imperials presence which would contradict most of the first part of the movie
I am going to be trying to do something with all the matte paintings in the movie. The main problem with the live action with the paintings is because using old bluescreen technology, the mate edges are very harsh and this makes any movement in front of the painting looks strange because any of the motion blur edges are gone.
Sorry, It's been a funny week for me so my fingers aren't always typing what my brain is thinking.
I really meant we see the Star Destroyer jump in (but not actually into the system, as you rightfully point out that would be a fast one way ticket to the Executor apology morgue for the Captain) and seeing Hoth would confuse the viewer into thinking that was exactly what happened (so please edit me into a universe where I didn't type that either).
In a nutshell what I really was suggesting was scroll, empty space, Star Destroyer jumps in and then play as is.
I shall now hide behind this stangely blue snow drift and hope no one notices me until the next time my fingers do my inner eye a disservice.
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PaulisDead2221 said:
Perhaps if you decide to go back to a 480p release, you can encode the HD color corrected work at 480p, and start on that as your master file. There shouldn't be any quality loss, since it's been down-converted from a 1080p source, and it would free up a ton of space, and speed up rendering time, having excised the multiple layers of color passes. Of course it wouldn't be free of further tweaking after the first few passes, but it seems as though it would free up a lot of work.
The thing is, now i've seen what the 1080p looks like and the fact that i can make an AVCHD DVD-9 that will play in its 1080p glory on my PS3 there is no way i can go back to lower res. i'll just have to put up with the slow render rate and the extra space needed. If the HD versions had been around a few years ago the ANH:R would have been HD too (and maybe once the saga is complete it will be)
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adywan said:
If the HD versions had been around a few years ago the ANH:R would have been HD too (and maybe once the saga is complete it will be)
So much for "I'm never going back to ANH:R" :p
You shouldn't tease us with such things, especially given the HUGE amount of work you've already committed yourself to.
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ANHR in HD would be all we could ever ask for considering the rest of thr trilogy will be as close to perfect as can be.