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Savage said:

RoccondilRinon said:

Han seems more like a browncoat character to me. *hides*

How 'bout Serenity being blown up by TIEs as it flees Cloud City? j/k :)

 

Oh yes! That would be seven different kinds of awesome.

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Don't bring up Ben Burtt lol...


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Octorox said:

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I personally think that ESB needs the most effects work of any of the OT. Lucas barely touched the effects (unlike ANH, where many shots were replaced with CG). And thus, ESB feels very dated (effects-wise I mean, the story is great). ANHR has a very pristine feeling because Ady chose to keep all of Lucas's CG as well as touch up and clean up the effects himself. Coming off of ANHR and watching ESB 2004, the movie looks like it was made 30 years earlier. If Ady wants his OT to feel consistent throughout, then he needs to do a LOT of work on ESB. The only elements that aren't noticeably badly composited are the walkers, and even they could use some stop motion blur or something. Everything needs it's color tweaked for consistency and I think Ady needs to really clean up all of the effects scenes. As long as we get at least as much work as was done on ANHR it should be great. This is a Revisited project, not a Preservation effort.

Adywan replaced GL's CG (or added to it) with his own CG. Adywan also dumped quite a bit of it into the bin.....thank you Adywan. :)

Actually, the only cg Ady added were new TIE fighters in the Yavin battle and the only CG he removed were some of the silly and intrusive creatures and robots in the sequence entering Mos Eisley...

I think many people have an incorrect idea of how much work goes into doing 3-D CG. To make those very few from-scratch 3-D shot elements used in ANH:R, I put in many man hours (plus three times as many un-manned rendering hours); talking months of work here, on stuff for just a handful of shots. Believe me when I say that CG software is definitely no joke -- and I'm not even a Maya user! :D

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adywan said:

sorry been realy busy working on ESB:R pretty falt out along with a sideline project that i will be announcing shortly which should please PS3 and Blu-Ray owners :)

 

I look forward to hearing what this "sideline project" is about, because I have not yet made that step.  Well, I made that step, just in the wrong direction.  ;-)

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doubleofive said:

adywan said:

sorry been realy busy working on ESB:R pretty falt out along with a sideline project that i will be announcing shortly which should please PS3 and Blu-Ray owners :)

 

I look forward to hearing what this "sideline project" is about, because I have not yet made that step.  Well, I made that step, just in the wrong direction.  ;-)

 

Look here ;-) : http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/THE-STAR-WARS-SAGA-1080P-AVCHD-for-PS3-Blu-Ray-players-to-fit-on-a-DVD-9/topic/9536/

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WXM -  Your talented contributions are very appreciated by the many who have been lucky enough to see 'Star Wars:Revisited', and the many more who will be watching it long into the future.  Well done, as you did some tremendous work.  The hours put in were definately worth it.  :)

 

DarthBo -  Thanks for that handy link about all this.  Nice work Adywan.

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AxiaEuxine said:

I am of course looking forward to this. But isnt this distrating you from Empire revisited? Uses mind trick "You will work on Empire Revisted."

No. I needed a small break from ESB:R because i've got to the planning stage now and i'm looking through the movie to list things that need to be don & how i can achieve things.  This project can be done at the same time as ESB:R because once all the fine tuning is done it can be rendered without taking up much of my time on ESB:R

Glad to hear you're in the planning stages.  ImperialFighter and I are almost done with his analysis of... well, im not sure exactly.  I have all of the "what" of the screenshots he wanted, but every time he sends me the "why" it gets lost in cyberspace...

There's going to be almost 40 screenshots he wants me to post, so what would be the best way to do this, you think?  Should we make another thread just dedicated to it?  I don't want to take up that much space in this thread if few people really want to scroll through all that.

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WXM said:

Octorox said:

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Octorox said:

I personally think that ESB needs the most effects work of any of the OT. Lucas barely touched the effects (unlike ANH, where many shots were replaced with CG). And thus, ESB feels very dated (effects-wise I mean, the story is great). ANHR has a very pristine feeling because Ady chose to keep all of Lucas's CG as well as touch up and clean up the effects himself. Coming off of ANHR and watching ESB 2004, the movie looks like it was made 30 years earlier. If Ady wants his OT to feel consistent throughout, then he needs to do a LOT of work on ESB. The only elements that aren't noticeably badly composited are the walkers, and even they could use some stop motion blur or something. Everything needs it's color tweaked for consistency and I think Ady needs to really clean up all of the effects scenes. As long as we get at least as much work as was done on ANHR it should be great. This is a Revisited project, not a Preservation effort.

 

Adywan replaced GL's CG (or added to it) with his own CG. Adywan also dumped quite a bit of it into the bin.....thank you Adywan. :)

Actually, the only cg Ady added were new TIE fighters in the Yavin battle and the only CG he removed were some of the silly and intrusive creatures and robots in the sequence entering Mos Eisley...

 

I think many people have an incorrect idea of how much work goes into doing 3-D CG. To make those very few from-scratch 3-D shot elements used in ANH:R, I put in many man hours (plus three times as many un-manned rendering hours); talking months of work here, on stuff for just a handful of shots. Believe me when I say that CG software is definitely no joke -- and I'm not even a Maya user! :D

Oh no, I didn't mean to downplay your work at all. I'm sure it took quite some time and looked great. I would also like to see a similar addition in ESBR but that might be asking a little much.

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doubleofive - Yes, we've been a little unlucky along the way, but are nearly there.  Check your latest successful e-mail.  :)

 

doubleofive has put some excellent effort into some 'mock-ups' for some potential thoughts for Adywan and everyone here to have a look at.  He has not done them in an enormous size, but there are approx. forty-odd shots or so in the sequence, which will include some 'alternative' ideas (don't worry Adywan, not every shot is a 'mock-up', and the ones that are, are done using various existing elements!) as well for certain shots.  It's only to give Adywan some food for thought in certain areas he may not have already considered, and something for others here to have a look at, that are interested.  I am planning on commenting on various things, once the shots have been put up, at some point soon. 

Adywan, as it's your thread, maybe you will advise us if we can place it on here for you, or if you want a dedicated thread for it.  Thanks.

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ImperialFighter said:

doubleofive - Yes, we've been a little unlucky along the way, but are nearly there. Check your latest successful e-mail. :)

 

doubleofive has put some excellent effort into some 'mock-ups' for some potential thoughts for Adywan and everyone here to have a look at. He has not done them in an enormous size, but there are approx. forty-odd shots or so in the sequence, which will include some 'alternative' ideas (don't worry Adywan, not every shot is a 'mock-up', and the ones that are, are done using various existing elements!) as well for certain shots. It's only to give Adywan some food for thought in certain areas he may not have already considered, and something for others here to have a look at, that are interested. I am planning on commenting on various things, once the shots have been put up, at some point soon.

Adywan, as it's your thread, maybe you will advise us if we can place it on here for you, or if you want a dedicated thread for it. Thanks.

Best to place them in here. We don't want to have to many threads about the same project going. If you can it would probably be best to post the thumbnails in here that will link to the larger pictures or it could take over the thread if you have too many. Can't wait to see the ideas.

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http://fractalsponge.net/

 

This site has some insanely awesome hi-res pics of cg star destroyers. You might want to contact this guy. With a little blurring they look like the real models.

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Here's a mock-up I made in photoshop. I thought it would be cool to see a stardestroyer in a planet's atmosphere. It makes no sense in the context of the movie though.

 

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/octolink_64/destroyer-1.png

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cool idea. That would be great to see some Star Destroyers in Orbit from ground level.

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Perhaps not on as grand a scale as Octorx's image, but that's a good idea nonetheless.  Remember in the deleted scenes for Star Wars (the original), Luke could see tiny little blotches of the starships from plain eye view.

Then again, Hoth's atmosphere is different...

 

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Octorox said:

Here's a mock-up I made in photoshop. I thought it would be cool to see a stardestroyer in a planet's atmosphere. It makes no sense in the context of the movie though.

 

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/octolink_64/destroyer-1.png

 

Actually, it would go some of the way to explaining how the imperial walkers got onto the planets surface in the first place (attack of the clones gave us the benefit of seeing drop ships putting the AT-ST's into battle). And with Vader waiting in the wings to land on the planet, i think it would work quite well. It also would add an increased scence of menace to the imperial attack on the rebels.

Thing is there would be quite a few number of shots where the stardestroyer would have to be included into, rather than just that one shot (including the speeder fly the legs bit - that could prove very difficult to do).

The workload involved vs. the benefits it serves, tips to far to one side, i would imagine.

It would look really good though.

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Shouldn't Vaders Star Destroyer be somewhere around Hoth anyway?

Just thinking about it that's all. I mean, we don't see any sign of the Super Star Destroyer when either the Rebels or Han & Co leave the planet.

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HotRod said:

Shouldn't Vaders Star Destroyer be somewhere around Hoth anyway?

Just thinking about it that's all. I mean, we don't see any sign of the Super Star Destroyer when either the Rebels or Han & Co leave the planet.

 

An excellent point, which ImperialFighter will express directly in the next week or so.

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HotRod said:

Shouldn't Vaders Star Destroyer be somewhere around Hoth anyway?

Just thinking about it that's all. I mean, we don't see any sign of the Super Star Destroyer when either the Rebels or Han & Co leave the planet.

 

HotRod and others - doubleofive and I are doing something along these lines which could explain a couple of things along the way....  We'll see what Adywan thinks once we're done.

 

Adywan - Thanks for getting back to us on that one, and I hope we have something interesting for you to consider eventually.

   

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adywan said:

I think i may be changing my mind about doing this in 720p.

 

Anyone fancy 1080p instead?

The downside to this is that it will take longer to finish due to considerably longer rendering times

 

The answer you're looking for is "yes".  I mean I only have a 720p screen, but we could always scale it down ourselves if we needed to.

 

Are you thinking about DVD-DL Blu Ray playable disc?

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o_0 That would be insane. For those of us with 1080p screens. :P Which, unfortunately, does not include me. Hmm... are we talking additional weeks? months? years?

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doubleofive said:

Are you thinking about DVD-DL Blu Ray playable disc?

Oy, that would definitely be an online purchase for me, since the hicks in my half-a-horse town probably don't know that such a thing is possible. And how many have Blu-Ray recorders? The few here that do would be working overtime on that.

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Ripplin said:

doubleofive said:

Are you thinking about DVD-DL Blu Ray playable disc?

Oy, that would definitely be an online purchase for me, since the hicks in my half-a-horse town probably don't know that such a thing is possible. And how many have Blu-Ray recorders? The few here that do would be working overtime on that.

 

I meant the DVD-DL versions that Adywan is putting the 1080p unaltered (well, unaltered from 2004) that plays normal on a Blu Ray player.

How many versions are you thinking about here, Ady?  1080p uncompressed avi, DVD-9 Blu Ray, DVD-9 NTSC, DVD-9 PAL, DVD-5 NTSC, DVD-5 PAL, and XVID?  Are you hoping to finalize the film first so we don't have so many differences like between the XVID, DVD-5, and DVD-9 of ANHR?  This all sounds like a lot of work for you!

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doubleofive said:

adywan said:

I think i may be changing my mind about doing this in 720p.

 

Anyone fancy 1080p instead?

The downside to this is that it will take longer to finish due to considerably longer rendering times

 

The answer you're looking for is "yes". I mean I only have a 720p screen, but we could always scale it down ourselves if we needed to.

 

Are you thinking about DVD-DL Blu Ray playable disc?

Well i would be doing the usual DVD-5 & DVD-9 versions but also an AVCHD 1080p version that can be burned onto DVD-9. Most people don't Blu-Ray burners but with the sales of PS3's & Blu-Ray players on the increase an AVCHD DVD-DL release seems the most logical. Well until sales of burners increases (and the price of both the burners and media drop significantly).

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