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Ripplin said:

I like the idea of the entrance to the meditation room either being guarded or extended (like in vaderios' old mock-up) being brought up again. Makes sense that it would be more secluded, not open so that every no-name Imperial noob could see Vader in his big black egg as they walk by, especially if he has his helmet off.

 Or at least another set of doors behind Piett to serve as an airlock... Vader is in that suit for a reason, and to have one set of doors where everyone's germs can get in and infect him (being that the pod was open for Piett to see his knarly head BEFORE the helmet was lowered and re-attached to his suit) wouldn't serve a Sith Lord too well if the one thing that killed him was the common flu.

Good idea. Still i dont know if the running time can show/reveal the dual door concept in motion. Even Bingo's idea for an elevator can be easily a good solution but i prefer the perspective do its job and show as subtle as possible what the shot has to provide :D

-Angel

Here is another mock-up as far as the general gist of my direction:



Now I'm not saying you would necessarily see the "Piett door", much less have it OPEN when Vader is talking to the Emperor... but the mock-up (as sloppy as it is) is to create the overall impression of what could be done to indicate the meditation room as connected to the holo room.

I guess a couple of points to bring up too:

(1) will the holo room walls be toned to grey to match the meditation room wall colors?
(2) will there be anything coming out of the "red lights" on the posts to indicate the hologram projector(s) (nothing as harsh as say when R2 projects a hologram, but maybe have the red lights turn brighter blue and flicker a bit - even if there is no hint of a projector beam - just to show that the holo-room is on and active).

I can also understand if any of that (regarding the hologram projector beams/lights) would cause distraction, as the main point of the scene is the conversation not the FX.

Angel: actually, I was the one who offered the elevator idea.  Here is my mock-up (I think it was me.. maybe we had the same idea... damn old age):



Frankly, this would be the simplest thing to do, as it could place the room anywhere on the Executor (far away or near the bridge), give Vader an airlock/privacy and wouldn't involve creating any extensive FX work (okay, a TON of FX work). 

The door behind Piett could be shown closing as the doorway he is in now opens, or there could be a slight lag whereupon the white light panels on either side of Piett give a slight glow of red and turn green.. then the doors open and Piett comes in (indicating the airlock is sealed on the other side and/or Piett has been decontaminated).

I dont think That ady will add even the slightest indication of PT stuff to the flawless ESB for the sake of it (:P)

The whole theory of in your face effects or the movie needs to talk to you or adding something to story are not for revisited. otherwise many other great ideas were in place :P

Im aware the wall color if should be grayier. Imp mentioned that ady did make a reference about that change but i cant recall.

Sorry for the misplaced idea about bingo and monro :P

-Angel

I think for some changes, we have to think about the old 'doing it just because we can' thing that needs to be avoided. Some ideas sort of straddle that line. Has Ady ever given a flat 'yes' or 'no' on the meditation door thing? (I believe he said no on a long hallway, but that last pic Monro added looks like a nice, simple solution to me)

I believe he said no to the longer hallway, and no to the added step or whatever to the current side shot. So really, I think this whole conversation is moot (at least its on topic?).

I was surprised to see it brought up again, but then, a lot of old topics come and go several times over the course of the editing. :)

doubleofive said:

I believe he said no to the longer hallway, and no to the added step or whatever to the current side shot. So really, I think this whole conversation is moot (at least its on topic?).

Damn i remembering the post about considering the idea and he had some ideas about it ages ago. Care to remember us when he said no?

-Angel

My 2¢: I like the idea of either an antechamber or elongated hallway.  Either serves to make Vader's meditation room seem more isolated and imposing, and therefore threatening.

I wish I could remember what Ady said on the subject, alas 865 pages worth of information is a lot to keep track of.

vaderios said:

doubleofive said:
I believe he said no to the longer hallway, and no to the added step or whatever to the current side shot. So really, I think this whole conversation is moot (at least its on topic?).

Damn i remembering the postabout considering the idea and he had some ideas about it ages ago. Care to remember us when he said no?

-Angel

I hope for the best of the changes 005 :)

-Angel

My thing is it would make sense that there would be an airlock of a sort attached to the entrance of Vader's chamber, due to his medical condition.  You could say that the meditation pod would serve that function, but being that it is wide open with Vader helmet-less (to provide Piett and the audience a gross Vader head shot), it kind of defeats that purpose.

I would consider the "doing it because you can" to be near a frivolous change with no logical merit (not that adding something of yourself is off-limits, as one of the purposes of fan edits is to be creative and add a bit of yourself to the movie... especially considering that most of us won't have a chance at directing movies, much less big-budget ones).

One could consider the planet the DS1 orbits in ANH:R to be a DIBYC, but it also helps establish consistency with JEDI as well as help showcase the presence of the Empire as an expansive force.

Regardless of what is added or subtracted, the main considerations are:

(1) does it help the flow of the storytelling (edits, visuals, etc)
(2) does it make logical sense (the side of the Executor being darkened and the windows being brighter and bluer to match continuity with the other model shots)

Thats why im keep saying the differences about the ANH vader and the ESB Vader. Total different characters. Most if not all the later vaders were established by the ESB one.

After all its vader's ship. Or at least it has been established with that way.

Why not the 10+ km beast cant have a special location for his owner that is the second in command in the galaxy?

Imagine something like Jedi could happened if vader were meditating in his privare rooms..

-Angel

Bingowings said:

I hope Ady's computer comes back to life.

He posted the exact motherboard name/specs, but he's not sure he wants to replace it with another one that's exactly the same. I'd be wary too.

Isnt that odd that in the I am your father talk the blue rim light that lights vader constantly changes sides between the close ups and in several far shots are not there?

I hope the color correction fixed that.

Since ady removed the Blue cast/rim light from look in this shot i see why not on vader too.

EDIT: I was browsing again the first page of this topic and i re watch some of the comparison images. Probably outdated.

Still some of the bespin/falcon shots brought again my attention.

You can notice that when the falcon is landed it has no had contrasts while some of the further buildings have. Will the gradient between the atmospheres be more correct and the depth maps should be more accurate?

The old mattes have that haze more correctly placed but not perfect.

-Angel