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If I could venture an opinion, I think Angel would be an excellent candidate for a copy of the workprint, as he can offer constructive criticism on the visuals (not that you haven't already got an eye for that sort of thing Ady) but every little helps. I mean, you can tell from all his mockups that he knows what works visually. Just a suggestion. I'm sure any member with the workprint would be happy to send a copy with your approval (rather than you sending it yourself and eating into your limited funds)

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Yay, the Captain's back on board!!!!!!!!

Glad things are looking up!!

All you need is some more reddies!!

J

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doubleofive said:

Did Ady just say what I think he said: he's going to physically make a new Han-in-Carbonite to fix the ANH shirt problem? That's crazy/awesome!

only just a section. Having the face would make the task a lot easier when replacing. I don't know how much he would charge me yet though for a cast of it so it may still be an impossibility.

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adywan said:

Isnt the bottom image bad white balanced? The bluecyan hue is all over the place.

Also considering these images then the red stripes should be light orange?

Referencing many different sources can cause a mess but im sure ady knows better or just he can use artistic licence and push the colors how he wants of course.

There are no limitations on that fact.

If I could venture an opinion, I think Angel would be an excellent candidate for a copy of the workprint

Lol thanks for the vote :D :D :D

 

-Angel

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adywan said:

 

A B C said:

... A work based on this shot would be awesome, and it looks really like another famous shot I have in high res from this sequence. These are for me the true colours:

 

I hate to tell you A B C but you've been thinking that these are the tru colours from a very faded/ desaturated photograph. Here is the original photograph taken from the behind the magic CDROM:

 

 

You hate to tell me ?... Well, you shouldn't! :)

I'm not upset when I'm wrong and I'm glad of your demonstration of authenticity here, notably when you have not the least obligation towards "us". However we'd agree the contrasts are very close between these shots, not as dark as on your reconstruction.

... I'll add here for myself that a shot coming from a commercial CD-Rom will surely have been "restored" by the staff, so not the most authentic reference. Same thing for the remixed musics from "Star Wars a Musical Journey", if you allow me to transpose the matter in the area I've been on this site for. I would definitely go for a middle way between these two shots in the end.

It's in your hands anyway, and I wish you all the courage you can get! I have no doubts the thousand words that have been spent here will be pointless to anyone who will witness your restoration.

 

 

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When 3PO is being repaired by R2 at the end of the movie it looks like R2 has also removed the scorching from 3PO's torso & neck.

J

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Nice one Mr J!

I dont know if its really an error or what but shouldnt the blast mark shouldnt be there before the laser hits the tower?

-Angel

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Ady, great to hear you're feeling better.  Good luck on finishing this! 

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Indeed.  Good to read that you're back in the fray, Ady.  When I didn't get any replies to my PM's, I was starting to worry.

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doubleofive said:

Did Ady just say what I think he said: he's going to physically make a new Han-in-Carbonite to fix the ANH shirt problem? That's crazy/awesome!

I thought that was confirmed just you be a lighting illusion.

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doubleofive said:

Did Ady just say what I think he said: he's going to physically make a new Han-in-Carbonite to fix the ANH shirt problem? That's crazy/awesome!

Do you mean the ROTJ shirt problem?

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vaderios said:

Nice one Mr J!

I dont know if its really an error or what but shouldnt the blast mark shouldnt be there before the laser hits the tower?

-Angel

Unless Ady wants to paint out the burn mark prior to the laser hit (not impossible, considering everything else he's fixing) the easier solution would be to have another blaster shot already hitting the turret on the first frame, then the shot that comes in causes the final damage.

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but the laser that hits that cannon completely destroys it. maybe it already came that way. like how their ships are dented and dirty too.

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vaderios said:

Imrahil said:

She was 18, wasn't she? Hamill was 25.

We dont know that dont we? ;)

Tell me if am i wrong but we never get a clear definition how many years passed through the episodes (ignoring the the visual growing up of characters) dont we?

EU or starwars.com doesnt count as answers or sources.

 

-Angel

First of all... if the EU or SW.com doesn't count as "answers" then what does? To fill in the blanks that the movies don't cover is what the EU is out there for and it is an area of battle in which I know extensively...

Secondly... from your wording, I get a sense of the movies being the end all and be all concerning the saga in terms of canon information... If that is the case then why are we in a forum concerning CHANGING things in the movie and making things as continuitous as possible?

Mark Hamill may have been 25 and Carrie 21 (points in which I can honestly say I don't care about and therefore don't actually know) but the characters they portray are the same age and younger than the real actors age. That is an established fact concerning the movies we do get from the movies...

Lastly... I was bring up informational points to end a ridiculous debate on weather or not Leia's character/Carrie's role should be cut as a military leader and if she's experienced enough to be such a leader. That is directly related to a person's age along with the age of Luke as they are twins. The Star Wars universe is obviously more advance that our lil planet so experience in terms of age is younger in their galaxy (albeit NOT REAL GALAXY). Look at the dynamics of our own planet. Kids now a days know way more than their predecessors from what they were taught in school... Accessing information is easier than ever and kids are literally forced to grow up a lil faster and therefore mature faster to be competitive in todays world. Star Wars experience is like that but several times more intense as tech and knowledge there is far better to the point were a young person has the educational background in a variety of fields to be leaders.

I could care less if you don't consider the EU/SW.com as informational sources. None of this is "real" anyway... However many people DO keep track and want to have things make sense. Otherwise, once again... why are we in this forum...

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Rogue Leader said:

First of all... if the EU or SW.com doesn't count as "answers" then what does? To fill in the blanks that the movies don't cover is what the EU is out there for and it is an area of battle in which I know extensively...

Secondly... from your wording, I get a sense of the movies being the end all and be all concerning the saga in terms of canon information... If that is the case then why are we in a forum concerning CHANGING things in the movie and making things as continuitous as possible?

but the characters they portray are the same age and younger than the real actors age. That is an established fact concerning the movies we do get from the movies...

Answers that comes only from the movie. Things you got it only from it. Ady himself said that OT was superior from PT because you got whats going on on screen and never run to any sw.com and search there what is supposed to going on, onscreen. EU is so unstarwars-y because it explains everything like star trek or any other sci fi movie. Star wars movies dont do that.! We dont know what fuel the ships are burning we dont know where they sleep or eat or or or...All these are useless explanations.If beru throws a vegetable in what she was cooking then thats it. No need to listen "go and gather spacecarrots that have spacevitamins from the vaporators." Or when a random dude fills the an xwing in ANH, im sure they will finaly say"(place name here, and lets have his backstory) filled the t-65 x-wing with 10 gallons or spacefuel that was rare on yavin and contains spaceoctane. Thats why if you remember i tried to make a list of what we know only from the movies and not from any other source.. EU is Rick Olie of the star wars saga...

 

Secondly im coming from an other "school" or whatever you can call it. I like changing things for the sake of it. Thats why i like to OTize the PT or the opposite around or just messing with changes. To me they are just movies and an interesting playground to play with.

 

Thats why i said that Leia IMO looks like 25 and and not 21 or 18 in the movies. IMO always

 

Anyways back to ESB:R

 

-Angel

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Tinkering with PS (autolevels, autocontrast and autocolor) I came to this version:

Natural colors on ESB catwalk

I prefer this version of the "overall death star gray" than the slightly blueish hue... It feels more natural, doesn't it?

PS: the more I look to the blueish one, the more I see the colors had been altered to make it that unnatural hue...

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Tinkering with PS (autolevels, autocontrast and autocolor) I came to this version:

Auto levels/contrast/color is good to be avoided. I use PS so i know ;)

I prefer the blueish one (what did you expect :P) Is more stylised and adds variation. Especialy if this will be aplied to the later dull shots.

 

-Angel

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Not to try and bring this back up, but Angel is spot on. These are just movies which happen to have had a LOT of (contradictory) supplemental information written for them because George Lucas is a marketing genius.

For the OT, they are unnecessary, we know everything we need to know just by watching.

For the PT, unfortunately, they are because it's so badly written and nothing makes sense. 

Ady is editing them as self contained movies so anything outside is irrelevant. 

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http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/doubleofive/RotJR/hanshirt.jpg

The problem is that Han goes into and out of carbonite wearing the same shirt with the flap, but while he is in carbonite, he is wearing his shirt from ANH (as they probably sculpted it before designing the costumes for ESB).

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Bravo Zulu said:

Carrie Fisher was 19 at the time of shooting ANH.

Mark Hamill was 25.

What I find even more absurd than Amidala's purported age of 14 is that she was ELECTED to be Queen... seriously? A society "electing" a teenage monarch and giving her absolute authority? Good grief...

Transylvanians 'enjoyed' an elected monarchy (of sorts) for many generations and some of those monarchs were very young by modern standards.

They are fictional aliens so I didn't have a problem with that idea I only had a problem with writing, the performances, the direction, the over-reliance on unrealistic effects etc, etc.

However this has nothing to do with ESB:R so perhaps we should all move onto subjects more related to Ady's project.

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Bingowings said:

However this has nothing to do with ESB:R so perhaps we should all move onto subjects more related to Ady's project.

I agree. As entertaining as this may be, and trust me, it is, this does not aid Ady in finishing his project.

Back on topic:
I honestly never noticed the change in Han's shirt before, although at a younger age, when first viewing Star Wars, I wasn't such a sucker for details. Now that I am up-to-date on this fact, I too would like to see Ady change this.

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