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adywan said:
That shot has already been fixed
Ah, nice to know. Thanks for confirming.
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Wow, a lot to catch up on. I'll just answer ImperialFighters last post first. Check your PM's IF ;)
That shot has already been fixed
STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW — Page 751
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Those blue lasers are awesome. Would like to see that combined with "electricity" hitting the AT-AT, as if they're trying to short circuit it.
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Thanks, there is some elictricity added to the blast, but its very quickly animated. I still prefer my green laser shot, bit more subtle. But I like what your saying about electricy knocking out some of the shields, an EMP laser, maybe weakening the AT-AT armour before it falls. Cool thought.
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yoda1138 said:
Kinda bothered me how Luke, a JEDI throws a rock like a sissy when fighting the Rancor. (found out its a skull, may have to change my edit)
So heres my Force throw.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K7f1AsYAb4
ADY, I now see what a dark path you have gone down. So addictive! :-)
This is interesting. I'm moving this over to the wish list thread.
I tried swapping rock for a skull to match what hits the button, but it didnt work out so well, so i may instead make the skull a rock. I always thought it was a rock he threw. After a million viewings i am still finding new things. I love Star Wars!!!
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Ady's new clip = awesome. The new color corrections look amazing.
I also love the vid from yoda1138 of the collapsing AT-AT with the simple electricity effect as if it's shield has gone down. Very nice. it goes a long way in helping to suggest that the AT-AT has been compromised and is now completely vulnerable.....which also leads to the following single shot to it's neck area when it explodes making a lot more sense.
I'm not sure if AdY was planning on something like this but I dig the idea.
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Ady, how's filming and model-making going?
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(blue ion dish gun)
never mind. Already beaten to punch. >:)
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Another edited clip from ROTJ, will post on wishlist also. Thought I'd share here, as this is my bookmarked hangout area.
Enjoy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AguISScl4jY
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yoda1138 said:
Another edited clip from ROTJ, will post on wishlist also. Thought I'd share here, as this is my bookmarked hangout area.
Enjoy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AguISScl4jY
Not to mention, The saber is coming out of the wrong end when thrown.
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yoda1138 said:
Another edited clip from ROTJ, will post on wishlist also. Thought I'd share here, as this is my bookmarked hangout area.
Sure, but there are dedicated threads for ROTJ editing ideas, y'know. ;) One is the ESB and ROTJ Wishlist.
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Tremendous colouring on the Snowspeeder shots in your recent 'Luke's Escape' clip adywan, and it reminded me of something I've been meaning to bring up about that.
It's a very subtle thing, but maybe you can have a look at this to see what you think - I recall that you might be adding moving 'braking flaps' to certain shots. Well, I wonder if there could be one added briefly opening and closing on the left-hand side of the second one that enters the frame, which then veers off to it's left?
It's just that I always think that the movement of this particular Snowspeeder could lend itself to this particular small addition, and would add a little subtle extra to the shot. See what you think anyway -
As the second Snowspeeder veers over to it's left, we can see that the third one already has it's right-hand 'brake flap' up when it enters the frame. So this might make for a nice addition here, if you think it suits the second Snowspeeder's movement -
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Im curious why Impfighter missed to mention the incocistences in the backgrounds while the speeders are flying and how some backdrops are repeateted after a while causing a mess..
Is ady planing to rearange the flying shots so it makes more sense?
In the last clip they are still the same.
Can Vue do the justice making seamless mountain flyby's during the sequence?
Are available flying icy mountains footage to make it seamless?
Any chance to fix the last moment shaking in the footage while the speeder stays still?(there is a moment before we cut into the cockpit that the air footage shakes but the speeder element stays in its path)
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Some interesting ideas there Yoda1138. Still seeing the interlacing problems. You say you are working in premier, well make sure you de-interlace the footage first and don't use an interlaced preset for both your project or your output because youtube really screws with interlaced footage.The lasers when the AT-AT destroys the generator will be totally different than they are now. In fact i don't think that there will be an original element left in those 2 shots. It's going to be a lot different but i'm not going to be giving anything away ;)
As for when the At-AT falls i won't be adding any kind of shield effect. These beasts are heavily armoured so they don't need shields and adding the hint that they have shields wouldn't make sense either. Why give something such heavy armour that it can deflect/absorb laser blasts then give it a shield? And if they had a shield how the hell did Luke manage to penetrate it. I know someone will probably say something like the shield only deflect laser blasts so Luke could pass right through it but that's the sort of EU explanation for things that i really can't stand. You'll just have to wait and see how i get around the armour problem.
I got to admit i don't like the idea of the rebel cannons being in any way similar to the ion cannon. If you think about it it really makes no sense. One ion cannon takes out an entire stardestroyer in a couple of blasts by disabling its electrical systems. So a few shots from a smaller scale one could surely do the same to an AT-AT. So why not blast the shit out of them until it screws their electrical systems and they would be dead in the water. I actually like the rainbow effect as it makes them look different, but i'm certainly not going to be making them green either ;) The 2 different colours of the start up blast for those cannons has been fixed also.
Adding the flaps to the existing models is a pretty hard task so i doubt i'll be doing anything to the speeder shot you mention ImperialFighter.
And the background really have never bothered me in 30 years so i can't see myself changing them now. Thats a hell of a lot of work for something your really shouldn't be looking at in the shot anyway. Using CG to change those backgrounds just won't work and the rotoscoping involved is huge. So i'm leaving them as they are. The one thing i did change in the speeder search was adding clouds to the background where the speeder passes close to the mountain side because all other shots it shows a cloudy sky but this one was totally cloudless. But that's all i'm prepared to do with that scene. Same goes for the Hoth battle too. If i attempted to fix continuity errors with the backgrounds i would never get this edit finished. Again i have never had a problem with this
And you say that the backgrounds are repeated in the speeder search causing a mess? none of the backgrounds are repeated. yes you do see what looks like the rockface that was seen out of the front window but it isn't repeated as it is a slightly different angle and a lot closer, and who is to say that over the other side of the mountain range the rockface isn't similar? There are no others that are similar or repeated and it certainly isn't a mess.
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Ady, how's filming and model-making going?
Things have stopped at the moment. I've got to take it pretty easy so i'm not doing anything related to the edit for a good few weeks at least. Once i've been back to the doctors for more tests i will know more on when i can get back to things.
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adywan said:
Lord Grievous said:
Ady, how's filming and model-making going?
Things have stopped at the moment. I've got to take it pretty easy so i'm not doing anything related to the edit for a good few weeks at least. Once i've been back to the doctors for more tests i will know more on when i can get back to things.
A well deserved break. Rogues will be standing by. =D
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vaderios said:
Im curious why Impfighter missed to mention the incocistences in the backgrounds while the speeders are flying and how some backdrops are repeateted after a while causing a mess..
Er, because they've never really stood out enough to me vaderios, lol. But as adywan has answered you, there's just too many 'background' continuity differences to attempt to tie everything together perfectly anyway, I'd imagine. Still, nice to see that there's the odd additional 'cloud' enhancement thrown in too, to improve things.
adywan, some interesting pointers there in your latest answers, and I hope you'll take things really easy for the foreseeable future as you've been advised.
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OK I don't know if this is EU or real world science but...
ion cannons wouldn't work on ATAT's simply because they are grounded and the electricity would get absorbed away from the ATAT's where the SD is in space and the electricity has nowhere to go so it fries the systems of the ship
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Good thinking!
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Thanks for your input ADY, some very good points that I agree with. Especially about the ion cannon, although I only knocked that one up to satisfy curiosity of how it could look. Thought about yellow? lol
Same with the shields on the AT-ATs, I agree with your view. Did you check out my second edit.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k0L4K5CaJk
It doesn't really show shields on this one, more internal damage caused by the neck breaking. The originating explosion is when the head hits the ground and bends the neck back. Setting off a mini chain reaction inside the beast.
Also, thanks for your tips on de-interlacing problems. Its always confused the hell outa me, and am still kinda unsure. I always thought interlacing was something to do with American tv picture, or something like that.
Anyhow, hope you get well soon Ady.
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Thanks for the update Ady. I hope you enjoy your few weeks of relaxation.
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It is interesting that many of the continuity errors that already fixed were hard or impossible to see in motion still the bigger errors like backgrounds that can cause confusion are left alone. Not all just saying
As for the "there's just too many 'background' continuity differences to attempt to tie everything together perfectly"
Well i guess we were all nipitickers here.
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yoda1138 said:
Same with the shields on the AT-ATs, I agree with your view. Did you check out my second edit.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k0L4K5CaJk
It doesn't really show shields on this one, more internal damage caused by the neck breaking. The originating explosion is when the head hits the ground and bends the neck back. Setting off a mini chain reaction inside the beast.
That break/small sparking in the neck is good. Could drive home the fact that the armor was too strong for blasters but they exploited a weakened part of the armor.
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Adywan, you DID fix some of the transparency issues! Watching the 2004 DVD, you can see right through the cockpit of Rogue 2's speeder. Now, it appears entirely solid and opaque. Nicely done!
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Rogue 2's initials = R2 ....just realised that, interesting!
wonder if that means anything???
...oops, forgot my medication today :(
You can never go home again, but i guess you can shop there.
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It means that he's number 2 of the Rogue Squadron!!!
Duh!!!
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