OK I have taken an hour of my life and read through the first 30 or so pages of this thread, and I see that (many) people have also suggested to leave the SE Vader's shuttle scenes, and they have been denied, so I apologize for asking a redundant question.
Thanks for being patient with me guys. :)
Still looking foward to this edit!
Bingowings said:
Come on guys play nice...I remember my first post on here and it was asking about Jedi.
I'd hate to think we'd scare off people who may have something valuable to offer in the way of a fresh perspective because they hadn't got fully to grips with where everything was or hadn't read all seventeen and a halfish thousand posts on a seven hundredish page thread.
I feel your pain, Bingowings, but at the same time...there is a "search" function. If I were a n00b to this colossal thread and I had a question that might possibly have already been raised and dealt with, I would
1.) Read the first post very carefully, then if that didn't provide an immediate answer,
2.) Do a quick thread search
That alone would eliminate 95% of the repeat questions that tend to pop up. Granted, ripping a n00b's throat out simply for raising an innocuous question is inexcusable. At the same time, it does get a little irritating when the same questions are raised over and over and over again...
Oh, and, welcome to you Newcomers. I hope you enjoy your time here, and that you take me advice and become acquainted with the "search" funciton. :)
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gurgle1624 said:
I thought it would lend more credibility to the scene if we actually saw or at least heard why it wasn't friendly. I mean if someone introduced you to someone on the phone and then said I dont think he's very nice but gave no reason for not being nice wouldnt you be curious as to why that person isnt nice?
Watch that scene again and think how cool it would be to at least hear laser blasts, yells, static, then "it isnt friendly whatever it is".
I think it's perfectly logical as is. They're hiding from the Empire, and their lives may well depend on staying hidden, therefore any signs of technology or life on Hoth must be assumed a threat and treated as such until proven otherwise.
It's more like if your ex-girlfriend is chasing you with an axe, and you run to a friend's house to hide out for a while. Suddenly your friend comes into the room saying "hey, some chick called asking for you" and he hands you the phone. Your first reaction would likely be to think she's not friendly, whoever she is. (hopefully that makes sense and I'm not just crazy)
xhonzi said:
thorr said:
Maybe in RotJ he can have dualing red and green light sabers coming out of the moving lights, lol.
Mike
Oooohhh.... what if the search lights are just search lights- lazily scanning the sky until the light on our right ignites green and violently swings at the logo, and at nearly the same second, the light on our left ignites red and swings inward, and blocking the green light (while somehow being on top of it?) And then Palpatine's cackle fills the surrounds.
(Yes, I know I'm behind the times.)
I like it! :-)
I just noticed something while watching the original ESB, and I didn't think of it until now, but the original Boba Fett voice sounds like a well to do guy trying to sound intimidating. It's kinda weird, but it's like Jason Wingreen is trying to hard, while Temura Morrison just talks naturally. If someone would just show me the two clips with different voices, I hate to say it but I'd prefer the voice of Temura from the SE. (?)
Oh well, maybe that's just me.
Bobocop said:
gurgle1624 said:
I thought it would lend more credibility to the scene if we actually saw or at least heard why it wasn't friendly. I mean if someone introduced you to someone on the phone and then said I dont think he's very nice but gave no reason for not being nice wouldnt you be curious as to why that person isnt nice?
Watch that scene again and think how cool it would be to at least hear laser blasts, yells, static, then "it isnt friendly whatever it is".
I think it's perfectly logical as is. They're hiding from the Empire, and their lives may well depend on staying hidden, therefore any signs of technology or life on Hoth must be assumed a threat and treated as such until proven otherwise.
It's more like if your ex-girlfriend is chasing you with an axe, and you run to a friend's house to hide out for a while. Suddenly your friend comes into the room saying "hey, some chick called asking for you" and he hands you the phone. Your first reaction would likely be to think she's not friendly, whoever she is. (hopefully that makes sense and I'm not just crazy)
Lol...GF with an axe?
The whole point I'm making is that it was planned to be in that scene and for whatever reason (not enough money, no footage shot or Lucas brain farting) it wasnt put in, but there is more than one reference to that sequence. And as it stands now (at least to me) it seems as if something is missing. Maybe because I know of the missing scene but it still would be a nice little addition.
Guess I'm just not a logical kind a guy.
mfastx said:
I just noticed something while watching the original ESB, and I didn't think of it until now, but the original Boba Fett voice sounds like a well to do guy trying to sound intimidating. It's kinda weird, but it's like Jason Wingreen is trying to hard, while Temura Morrison just talks naturally. If someone would just show me the two clips with different voices, I hate to say it but I'd prefer the voice of Temura from the SE. (?)
Oh well, maybe that's just me.
Actually I think of it as the other way around...the emphasis of the "He's no good to me dead" is changed with the SE. The OT emphasies the "Dead" while in the SE it's on the "me". I prefer to think of Boba (OT)wanting the larger reward of Solo alive than the SE Boba worring about "who" Solo's worth is to.
Okay here is a VERY rough edit of what could be in the scene. Included is some audio, then while the probot exits to the left of the screen we can see the smoking ruins of Echo Station 38 (not included in my rough edit) in the upper left.
Be gentle with your comments on my edit, its my first....awww. Finally not an edit virgin...I feel so used.
I hope this link works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QvnEfs-7p4
mfastx said:
I hate to say it but I'd prefer the voice of Temura from the SE. (?)
Oh well, maybe that's just me.
gurgle1624 said:
Be gentle with your comments on my edit, its my first
Well make sure you can Edit your post instead making 3 in a row ;)
-Angel
gurgle1624 said:
Okay here is a VERY rough edit of what could be in the scene. Included is some audio, then while the probot exits to the left of the screen we can see the smoking ruins of Echo Station 38 (not included in my rough edit) in the upper left.
Be gentle with your comments on my edit, its my first....awww. Finally not an edit virgin...I feel so used.
I hope this link works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QvnEfs-7p4
It's actually not a bad idea... then again wouldn't station 38 check in prior to being blasted by a probe droid? Also the comm telemetry is from the probe droid's transmission of information in it's coded robot speak. It's not a recording of audible sound from the probe and it's immediate surroundings.
The impossible is what Rogues do best...
Darth Editous said:
mfastx said:
I hate to say it but I'd prefer the voice of Temura from the SE. (?)
Oh well, maybe that's just me.
I couldn't agree more. It is just you. ;)
I really like your sassy pants, Mr. Sassy Pants!
Rogue Leader said:
gurgle1624 said:
Okay here is a VERY rough edit of what could be in the scene. Included is some audio, then while the probot exits to the left of the screen we can see the smoking ruins of Echo Station 38 (not included in my rough edit) in the upper left.
Be gentle with your comments on my edit, its my first....awww. Finally not an edit virgin...I feel so used.
I hope this link works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QvnEfs-7p4
It's actually not a bad idea... then again wouldn't station 38 check in prior to being blasted by a probe droid? Also the comm telemetry is from the probe droid's transmission of information in it's coded robot speak. It's not a recording of audible sound from the probe and it's immediate surroundings.
Ever since the first time I saw Empire Strikes Back, I have always and will always say, the probe droid sounds like it is saying "Imperial Assistance."
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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I thought he was saying "This is the system. This is it."
Judge said:
I thought he was saying "This is the system. This is it."
Knowing Ben Burtt, I wouldn't doubt it.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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Sounds to me like the Tauntaun says "Mop 'n' shine. Mop 'n' mop 'n' shine."
STOP STOP IT WHAT ARE YOU DOING EVERYTHING IS RUINED FOR EVER
RoccondilRinon said:
STOP STOP IT WHAT ARE YOU DOING EVERYTHING IS RUINED FOR EVER
That bothers you? I have learned to laugh at it ever since the days when Robot Chicken was actually clever.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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vaderios said:
gurgle1624 said:
Be gentle with your comments on my edit, its my first
Well make sure you can Edit your post instead making 3 in a row ;)
-Angel
sigh...."Vaderious"... :-)
Yeah I know it's not like there is a recording device hanging outside Echo station 38 but who's to say they aren't "on the other line" so to speak. I'm sure the rebels can afford multiple transmissons at once.
Its just a rough cut idea, since I dont yet have the skills to add the scene in myself, but it gives more urgency to check it out plus the General sends Rogues 10 and 11 to Echo Station 38 after that exchange. Why send the Rogues when Han and Chewie are checking it out.
Zone 12 is where Echo Station 38 is located, also wouldn't you want a sentry posted near your shield generator if not to defend it but at the very least to report any strange activity?
A smoking station could be put into the shot of the probot leaving very easily for someone with some skill's (i'm sure someone will beat me to it..then again maybe not) but I will try and edit this myself with better quality. Just got my Vegas Pro so there's alot to learn.
By the way the Wilhelm scream was a joke, I wouldn't expect that to actually be in there...then again.
Bobocop said:
Sounds to me like the Tauntaun says "Mop 'n' shine. Mop 'n' mop 'n' shine."
True...mop 'n' shine makes more sense. ;-)
I always thought they were saying "[noise a Tauntaun would make]" and "[noise a probe droid would make]."
On the original Boba Fett voice - based on YouTube clips, as I don't have any pre-2004 renditions of the Saga, besides my uncle's 97SE VHS, which I don't have at hand - it sounds a bit... inconsistent?
I don't mean the actual actor, but the "quality" of the voice. In some scenes it seem that it's filtered, as if through a microphone, in others it sounds muffled, like a guy in a suit.
Ady, would it be possible to check the audio you have and try to fix it with a more consistent microphone filter through all dialogue lines? A more even distortion due to the helmet, I mean, not changing the original actor or his voice pitch.
Sorry, this has bugged me for a while - I don' intend to start flame war about the actual voice actor used. Don't throw stones at me... :)
You want to talk about inconsistent quality, try watching Star Wars with headphones on. It sounds like they used like four different types of microphone during the overdub sessions.
Rogue Leader said:
gurgle1624 said:
Okay here is a VERY rough edit of what could be in the scene. Included is some audio, then while the probot exits to the left of the screen we can see the smoking ruins of Echo Station 38 (not included in my rough edit) in the upper left.
Be gentle with your comments on my edit, its my first....awww. Finally not an edit virgin...I feel so used.
I hope this link works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QvnEfs-7p4
It's actually not a bad idea... then again wouldn't station 38 check in prior to being blasted by a probe droid? Also the comm telemetry is from the probe droid's transmission of information in it's coded robot speak. It's not a recording of audible sound from the probe and it's immediate surroundings.
The novel says that the trooper transmisson comes from the comlink console, so we would assume it is two transmissions happening at the same time. Also Reekien states that it's outside the base in zone 12. Here's a novel exerpt.
Just then the voice of a rebel trooper cut in through the consoles comlink speaker:
Rebel trooper: "This is echo station 38, unidentified object is in our scope. We should have visual contact in about..."
Fear suddenly filled the voice.
"oh what the?!...Oh no!!"
There was a burst of static...and then nothing.
Han frowned.
"Whatever it is it isnt friendly...
Exterior shot:
The dark probe robot moves past the smoldering ruins of
station three-eight and down a ridge toward the Rebel base.