Jokke_r said:

Only major problem i have with ESB is when Han suddenly decides to walk out to (as far as he know) a cave inside an asteroid in OUTER SPACE, in a vaccuum, with nothing but a breathing mask, oh and gravity on the asteroid is perfect as well. At least inside the ship they have the excuse of artificial gravity. But then again there's not much one can do to that scene.

I don't see how that can bother you, when you can hear explosions in space, see flames, have an ape man doggy who makes vocalizations that sound exactly the same, and people can understand him.

All that, and you are worried about the gravity inside a space slug. At this point you just have to bite your lip and think "It's just a movie."

^ You're right, that is off topic.  Try here: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/forum.cfm/General-Star-Wars-Discussion/forum/2/

Jokke_r said:

Only major problem i have with ESB is when Han suddenly decides to walk out to (as far as he know) a cave inside an asteroid in OUTER SPACE, in a vaccuum, with nothing but a breathing mask, oh and gravity on the asteroid is perfect as well. At least inside the ship they have the excuse of artificial gravity. But then again there's not much one can do to that scene.

One could argue that the asteroid is large enough to exert some gravitational pull, and therefore hold an atmosphere of sorts, albeit a thin one (hence why our heroes need to wear breathing masks).  If this were the case, then I'm sure Han could have verified this on the Falcon's instruments before venturing outside.

EyeShotFirst said:

I don't see how that can bother you, when you can hear explosions in space, see flames, have an ape man doggy who makes vocalizations that sound exactly the same, and people can understand him.

All that, and you are worried about the gravity inside a space slug. At this point you just have to bite your lip and think "It's just a movie."

At the risk of going off on a rant, this kind of argument drives me nuts.  I think there's a big difference between physical impossibilities that exist for dramatic effect and those that are simply bad science.  Of course there is no sound in space, but how exciting would the movies be without it?  By that same logic, there should be no soundtrack to Star Wars either.

Someone once said that in creating any sort of science fiction or fantasy story, the audience can be expected to suspend belief in one thing; beyond that, the story loses credibility.  In Star Wars, the suspension of belief occurs with the force, not with universal physical laws.

seven said:

The request for a image of the shield generator on Hoth was made a long time ago, and I just happened across this today. Apparently its from a special feature on the old Laser discs narrated by Don Bies at LFL Archives.

Thanks for that seven :) I can't believe that after all this time of trying to find a good pic of the model that it was featured on the Archives feature. Oh well. I've got to admit that it does look a little plain. I kind of like this type of design for the generator but without the red markings:

http://www.swtor.com/media/concepts/republic-generator

none said:

http://finse2010.blogspot.com/

These 501st'ers took a trip to the set locations of Hoth, maybe they have photography which could be useful as background plates.

Someone very kindly sent me some very good pics from the Hoth locations at Finse but if i could get some more that would be very useful

Ripplin said:

That's some breakthrough! ;)

How are the kitchen and work station coming along?

Well the kitchen is finished and so is most of the redecoration. Unfortunately the workstation is going to take a little longer. The piece that was thrown away was one of the main sections so i might have to start from scratch because matching it up would be a pain and i have lost my original plans for it. Oh well. :(

The costume props for the 2nd unit Hoth troopers is coming along nicely. All i have left to do is the vests, boots and the box compartments for the backpacks.

and here is a sneak peek at the Wampa :)

WAMPA

Wow! That Wampa is highly detailed, can't wait to see it in motion... or on my floor, either way... yay!

adywan said:

and here is a sneak peek at the Wampa :)

Bitchin' :)

Those props/gloves for the Rebel Soldiers are looking good.  You're a man of many talents, Ady.

I just saw that Wampa in the thinkgeek.com newsletter last night. I likes it.

Oh, and props on the props! ;)

thorr said:

ImperialFighter said:

Ah, I see.  I thought adywan was putting an ESB-themed version of sky's original moving 'adywan' intro. on the actual edit, and perhaps using a mainly-'static' version of vaderios's mock-up on the 'extras' disc.  Sorry for any confusion thorr.

No problem.  :-)  It's cool that a few people already thought of the same idea.  I am sure Adywan will do what he thinks is best (which may end up being nothing in this case).  I think it is a cool idea because it is an attention grabber right away before the movie starts to let the audience know that it is something special.  It is probably the only place to have a little not-so-serious fun with the editing so it doesn't ruin the real work for the rest of the movie.   It is also the right movie to do it with since it has the Cloud City theme.  Maybe in RotJ he can have dualing red and green light sabers coming out of the moving lights, lol.

Mike

 Oooohhh.... what if the search lights are just search lights- lazily scanning the sky until the light on our right ignites green and violently swings at the logo, and at nearly the same second, the light on our left ignites red and swings inward, and blocking the green light (while somehow being on top of it?)  And then Palpatine's cackle fills the surrounds.

(Yes, I know I'm behind the times.)

Ripplin said:

Maybe Leia's line would be seen differently if Han's reaction to it had been different too. As it is, he sounds very calm and collected, as is her delivery of her line. It's just small talk in a very dangerous situation. Haha.

Han's reaction to her line is a little cold.  I was looking at him, thinking: Aren't you going to say anything, Dude?

And he was just kind-of:

The whole time.

Men!...

What I really mean to say is: Are people even arguing about the same scene?  It seems like some people don't like Leia's line when she & Lando are escaping from Bespin at the end of the film, and other people are discussing the scene where the Falcon flies straight at the Executor right before they dump garbage and head out for hyperspace.

OK this is just simply Awesome

lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=2ljFfL-mL70

Someone very kindly sent me some very good pics from the Hoth locations at Finse but if i could get some more that would be very useful

Ripplin said:

That's some breakthrough! ;)

How are the kitchen and work station coming along?

Well the kitchen is finished and so is most of the redecoration. Unfortunately the workstation is going to take a little longer. The piece that was thrown away was one of the main sections so i might have to start from scratch because matching it up would be a pain and i have lost my original plans for it. Oh well. :(

The costume props for the 2nd unit Hoth troopers is coming along nicely. All i have left to do is the vests, boots and the box compartments for the backpacks.

and here is a sneak peek at the Wampa :)

WAMPA

Yay gear!

Speaking of gear I figured out the tinting issue of the goggles:

Before and after... 8D my crazy idea worked! ;)

I think I know what I'm gonna do to dirty up the Hoth jacket now... another interesting improvisation... lol.

In an ecosystem far, far away, anything's possible :)

Well, I guess Adywan could put some trees and Avatar floating mountains on the asteroid.

The presence of atmospheric pressure and an ecosystem are explainable by it being the interior of a living being. We don't know anything about its biology but it's presumably evolved to have mynocks living inside it, like we have bacteria inside us. We assume that the Falcon tells Han that there's sufficient pressure that they'd only need breathing masks. The only issue then is why he isn't more suspicious of this, but in a universe like SW's this sort of thing might be not unheard of.

With all the good detail that Ady and Ming provide us from the pics of props we can assume that the new shots will include close ups as well?

Considering the fact that distant objects does not require detail..

Also a known tip is to make the suits already used and old rather brand new. The aging process makes them more interesting rright?

Oh well. I've got to admit that it does look a little plain. I kind of like this type of design for the generator but without the red markings:

hah makes sense :P

-Angel

vaderios said:

With all the good detail that Ady and Ming provide us from the pics of props we can assume that the new shots will include close ups as well?

Considering the fact that distant objects does not require detail..

Also a known tip is to make the suits already used and old rather brand new. The aging process makes them more interesting rright?

Well when we do finally get to shoot our scenes, all I know is that I'm suppose to save ALL material for Ady to play with. =D Knowing him I know he'll choose what shots will work without Lucas-like eccentricities.

As for details... we all know Ady is rather detailed oriented and anything further detailing for the gear is so that we can have a seamless integration into the action regardless of being distant or not. At least that's what I think... ^^

I thought of one thing I wouldn't mind seeing/hearing a bit tweaked: the first time we hear the probe droid after the "there's something very weak coming through" line. Then they show the close-up and it basically just sounds louder. Would it be possible to add more static when we hear it the first time?

Judge said:

Just one question for Adywan - how are you creating the new Emperor?

As far as I can tell from the trailer the mouth is that of the 2004 version, with the rest of the face is from footage taken from Return of the Jedi. Am I right, or is it more complex than that?