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Bingowings" said:

 

If posts of that nature really aggravate you I suggest that you don't read the thread or as soon as you see a post going in that direction skip to the next one.

People want to help Ady make his projects the best they can be.

It's up to Ady what he actually does but posting those suggestions comes from a genuine desire to make these projects go well.

Sure some of these posts read pedantic and retentive but that's how ironing out errors and making improvements are made.

Oh I would like to skip to the next thread, problem is that it's almost always the same thing again.

People helping ADY make this is not the problem Bingo, it's how they do it is what the problem revolves around. I think desire is always a great thing to have when helping out, it's just that the desire ( for this edit atleast ) is often over shadowed by obsession over pointless detail.

"Nicolas J Michalak" said:

 

I noticed this while watching the film the other day, and is either an easy or difficult fix, depending on your preference.  After Vader slices off Luke's hand, in a low angle shot on Luke, you can see Vader's lightsaber is still ignited, but in all subsequent shots, it has already been turned off.  There is no SFX of the saber being switched off, either.  The film cuts like this shot one cuts to a medium shot of Vader (with the saber out of frame), and then, to the second shot below where the saber is off.  So, you could potentially add in the SFX when it is out of frame.  The alternative is painting out the saber in three different shots following Luke's hand being cut off.

I'm almost certain that was covered in the great "weather vain debate" of 2009; or was that earlier this year?. I cant say what page it's on so you will have to search. My apologies dude.

I recommend reading the actual debate instead of the list of fixes on page one. The list may not be 100% up to date, but I could very well be wrong. If not, score big points for you dude!

brash_stryker said:

Speaking of Boba Fett, soundboards were released

http://www.starwars.com/games/playnow/soundboards/#/?theme=38

Oh dear me, it sounds so fake and "phoned in"

"Nicholas J. Michalak" said:

 

Considering all the minute details that are being addressed with ESB:R,  It's just good to see someone giving these films the attention and care they deserve instead of rushing out a release which add more flaws than it fixes.

Yeah, this edit is far from being a rushed release. It was originally planned to be released this month, on the anniversary of the original theatrical release of ESB. Things never go as planned, and Ady has had alot of things come up that has delayed the project. The minute details are really nothing to deal with. Family, housing, and financial issues had given Ady a pretty rough time. Not to mention some of his direct help with the project has gone AWOL. ESB:Revisited is going to get first class results no matter what. Ady is that committed.

EDIT: I'm not suggesting here that you were thinking ESB: Revisited was being rushed.

I agree with you regarding Temura Morrison. I also think Boba fett in the prequels should have never been a clone, he should have been a different kid all together. Another result of Lucas trying to make the OT fit the PT.

They held back on the 2004 dvds. I recall reading something about Lowry Digital saying something at a convention. They said something about wanting do do more work on them, and somebody from Lucasfilm quickly hushing them up. I think it was millenniumfalcon.com that reported it.... I think.

The Executor is a beautiful ship when it fills the frame but as a lone dart in the distance it doesn't look very imposing flanked by a few more ships it might look a little less feeble in that particular sequence.

This could be it!!

The Executor generally serves as a command vessel to overlook operations (strategic objectives) while the Imperial-class star destroyers engage in pursuits (tactical objectives) as shown in the movie before. The Executor isn't as maneuverable as an Imperical-class SD. It is misplaced in that situation to stop the agile Falcon.

What's wrong in the original scene is: In space there are three dimensions to escape the path of a vessel. I would try to escape the Executor by passing its stern. Instead, with all possible directions to escape the Executor's path, they are directly flying towards it and then crossing its bow where the Executor should have its most firepower and tractor beams. That's wrong tactically and I never understood why our experienced heroes were doing that. Maybe for allowing Luke better mind communication with his father? Odd!

A more logical solution would be: Leia spots at least three star destroyers and because they are encircled(!) they choose to escape by closing in on the least maneuverable SD (the Executor) to flee from the more maneuverable Imperial-class SD-ships. The Executor's mass is blocking the pursuit of the other star destroyers. That tactical situation would explain why the Falcon passes the bow of the Executor when it could have passed it's less defended stern (because it is covered by another Imperial-class SD).

That's a goiod point...Never though if that before.

Really, when Leia sees the SD, instead of flying right towards it, they should of just done a nose dive and flew in that direction.....

Good theory Obi-wan, but Vader wants the falcon captured by tractor beam, and the ties chasing the Falcon are forcing it towards the Executor so it can be within tractor beam range. Also, why would you want more Star Destroyers in the scene when the Falcon poses no threat to the Executor.The entire Imperial did not need to travel to Bespin.  The command ship would have been the only necessary ship to go to Bespin since that is the only ship Vader uses through out the whole movie.

But they are also unable to jump into hyper space because the hyperdrive has been disabled. So how are they going to dodge and blow them away when Lando runs back to try and fix it. Leia and Chewy cant do it, and Chewy is mainly a pilot not a gunner from my observation.

Another explanation: The Imperials are assuming the Falcon is unable to make it to Hyperspace. Therefore they find it unnecessary to deploy more than 4 TIEs and the command-ship. More vessels would make it "all too easy".

However a command ship like the SSD Executor usually is guided by other ships that are to be commanded for tactical operations.

Bingowings" said:

Normally Lando would but he is busy prepping the Hyperdrive which he thinks will work.

But even so they still have a lot of space to maneuver in, Lando isn't Han but if ROTJ shows anything he is almost Han and Han managed to dodge Star Destroyers and fighters and still program the Hyperdrive.

But having a couple of capital ships blocking off some of their escape and fighters pressing behind them while attempting to program the computer would put them into position where they would have to push forward until they could jump to light speed.

By the time they know they can't it's already too late.

Bingo, you don't need more Star Destroyers in that shot. That is over kill for that circumstance. The only thing that sequence could really benefit from is more Tie-fighters following the falcon. And until Ady can build the 3 foot model he's going to do, it would be difficult to pull off convincingly and not look like a composite.

Suspense is more tangible if the circumstances are more believable.

Star Wars is a fantasy film but the characters still exist in a defined world with rules.

Thats not necessarily true. They didn't send capital ships after Han in ANH when they escaped the death star. The only time it actually happened was prior to the asteroid feld sequence in ESB. 

Those capital ships by tatooine were all ready there to begin with, they were never specifically looking for the falcon. They were there to stop any ship from leaving.

About the death star escape; thats right, they only needed fighters, not capital ships.

'Bingowings" said:

 

The capital ships were there to retrieve the plans, they knew that the guy who caused the scuffle in the Cantina was on the ship but they needed to be sure he had the plans otherwise they'd be shooting down ships for years on end. They wanted to stop them escaping with something they wanted.

They were there to retrieve the plans alright, but not specifically from Han to begin with. No one really knew Han was even helping Luke and Ben deliver the droids. When that spy informed the storm troopers which docking bay the droids were in, they had no idea Han and the falcon were in it, and Han basted out of tatooine so fast that they ran into the capital ships on patrol, not on route to intercept with prior knowledge. Also, to add to that, no one knew what kind of droid would even have the plans, which is why the storm troopers were asking everyone about their droids, and searching every where for any potential droid.  And to further proove that they didn't know who owned the ship , you only have to watch scene where they are searching the falcon on the deathstar. They only said the markings match the ship that blasted it's way out of mos-isley. No where in that movie did anyone say, "Hey look, this is Han Solos ship, We finally got the bastard that had the plans!!" And Han and company were hiding in the Falcon so the empire thought it was abandoned which doesn't make any sense, because they were being monitored when they came out of the Alderan destruction field and forced in via tractor beam.

And yes, those capital ships were only there to stop any ships from leaving Tatooine until they found the plans.

The death star escape debate here is sounding like a broken record now, so it's a moot point. Nothing more can be proven from it.

Back to ESB....  R2 was the one that finally fixed the hyperdrive with a simple turn of the knob. If lando kept trying to find out what was wrong ( on his own ) the Executor would have had the falcon in it's tractor beam.