What's more mysterious is how Anakin goes from an American accent in the PT to having a RP English accent in ROTJ (even if you mess with the pitch of James Earl Jones's voice it sounds like an RP English accent).
Darth Editous said:
What's more mysterious is how Anakin goes from an American accent in the PT to having a RP English accent in ROTJ (even if you mess with the pitch of James Earl Jones's voice it sounds like an RP English accent).
Wait, what? It's never sounded RP to me. It's "upper class" as American accents go, but I'd still say it's American.
DE
Ben Danger did this little experiment with adjusting the pitch, it's not quite RP but a little more British than mid Atlantic (ala Loyd Grossman and Clive Barker before the throat polyps) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znm5AllHbG0
Imagine that voice trying not to be so EVIL (it sounds a little camp) and you might get a workable Anakin.
I've just watched the end of ESB (GOUT version), and I noticed the changes in the music during the scene where the Slave 1 takes off. In the GOUT, the music piece ends earlier (there were some cuts in it, to make it end earlier) while in the SE the music piece goes till the very end (the close-up or Artoo).
So I was wondering if music in this scene was to be left the way it is in the SE, as it is quite good actually. Just a thought.
Doubleofive said:I haven't had enough coffee yet to comprehend this...
Love this line so much, I've added it to my sig.
BTW, good to hear from you Ady. Any day I log on here and see you've posted with any sort of update is a welcome surprise. Hope you're doing okay, and that taking care of your mum's affairs isn't too stressful.
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corellian77 said:
Doubleofive said:I haven't had enough coffee yet to comprehend this...
Love this line so much, I've added it to my sig.
BTW, good to hear from you Ady. Any day I log on here and see you've posted with any sort of update is a welcome surprise. Hope you're doing okay, and that taking care of your mum's affairs isn't too stressful.
Aw, my first sig quote! Thanks cor, anything I can do to brighten people's days is great.
And yes, Ady, its great to hear from you. I always look forward to your long posts full of quotes and rebuttals. We try to answer the questions we know so you don't have to keep repeating yourself, but its nice to have your confirmation.
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Gonna snag the ESB:R comparison link OO5. =D Great comparisons shots as usual. =D
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Bingowings said:
Darth Editous said:
What's more mysterious is how Anakin goes from an American accent in the PT to having a RP English accent in ROTJ (even if you mess with the pitch of James Earl Jones's voice it sounds like an RP English accent).
Wait, what? It's never sounded RP to me. It's "upper class" as American accents go, but I'd still say it's American.
DE
Ben Danger did this little experiment with adjusting the pitch, it's not quite RP but a little more British than mid Atlantic (ala Loyd Grossman and Clive Barker before the throat polyps) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znm5AllHbG0
Imagine that voice trying not to be so EVIL (it sounds a little camp) and you might get a workable Anakin.
sounds like the doctor from voyager
Good to hear from you Ady....
.....And am I to understand that you plan to change Temuera Morrison's voice in the prequel trilogy? Wow....
Glutton for punishment, aintcha?
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Bingowings said:
Darth Editous said:
What's more mysterious is how Anakin goes from an American accent in the PT to having a RP English accent in ROTJ (even if you mess with the pitch of James Earl Jones's voice it sounds like an RP English accent).
Wait, what? It's never sounded RP to me. It's "upper class" as American accents go, but I'd still say it's American.
DE
Ben Danger did this little experiment with adjusting the pitch, it's not quite RP but a little more British than mid Atlantic (ala Loyd Grossman and Clive Barker before the throat polyps) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znm5AllHbG0
Imagine that voice trying not to be so EVIL (it sounds a little camp) and you might get a workable Anakin.
Don't make me destroy you.....
Just hearing Vader say that gives me the oogies....
And it doesn't sound one bit British to me..... it just sounds..... Sith-ish......
rcb said:
Bingowings said:
Darth Editous said:
What's more mysterious is how Anakin goes from an American accent in the PT to having a RP English accent in ROTJ (even if you mess with the pitch of James Earl Jones's voice it sounds like an RP English accent).
Wait, what? It's never sounded RP to me. It's "upper class" as American accents go, but I'd still say it's American.Ben Danger did this little experiment with adjusting the pitch, it's not quite RP but a little more British than mid Atlantic (ala Loyd Grossman and Clive Barker before the throat polyps) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znm5AllHbG0
Imagine that voice trying not to be so EVIL (it sounds a little camp) and you might get a workable Anakin.
sounds like the doctor from voyager
There is a resemblance now you point it out but I thought more about a certain six fingered man (American actor but a British voice) :
Doubleofive......before you down too much caffeine, it is possible that Mcullum is an American born in Germany and raised in England via U.S. govt. or U.S. military parents? I was born and raised in Germany, and am an American. Parents were U.S. government employees. Just an idea, because Rick seems very American.
Ya, great to hear from you Ady, having an Ep.IV Revisited party this Sunday night for a bunch of friends that are excited to see the edit. Peace, and I hope you're doing ok brother!
Where is McCallum's accent?
Sevb32 said:
Where is McCallum's accent?
In his mouth.
Ha ha ha ha ha!!!
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gavin77 said:
Doubleofive......before you down too much caffeine, it is possible that Mcullum is an American born in Germany and raised in England via U.S. govt. or U.S. military parents? I was born and raised in Germany, and am an American. Parents were U.S. government employees. Just an idea, because Rick seems very American.
True, I have a friend with the same story as you. That could make sense. Of course, the lack of caffeine problem has restarted again, so lets not get into this too hard...
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doubleofive said:
gavin77 said:
Doubleofive......before you down too much caffeine, it is possible that Mcullum is an American born in Germany and raised in England via U.S. govt. or U.S. military parents? I was born and raised in Germany, and am an American. Parents were U.S. government employees. Just an idea, because Rick seems very American.
True, I have a friend with the same story as you. That could make sense. Of course, the lack of caffeine problem has restarted again, so lets not get into this too hard...
Bruce Willis was born in Germany to a German mother and a US Soldier father.
Many Aussies think Mel Gibson was born in Australia, but he only moved there when he was 12. He was actually born in New York. So that would explain how he could shed his accent so fast.
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Wait, I'm gone for a while and everyones havnig a Boba Fett Voice/Accent debate.
Why didn't anyone notify me?
I could go on a little rant and repeat everything already said about it but I honestly can't be bothered.
Now go get yourself some coffee Doubleofive.
Oh yeah and Yoda should look like this anyway
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Maybe I've had too much caffeine!
Your brain just makes s**t up!
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Bobby Jay said:
Oh yeah and Yoda should look like this anyway
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Like Kirby? :p
looks more like a dead animal to me.
Jacen said:
Don't make me destroy you.....
Just hearing Vader say that gives me the oogies....
And it doesn't sound one bit British to me..... it just sounds..... Sith-ish......
Now I think about it, I don't think the word 'Sith' was ever used in the OT. Nor was padawan, Padme or pod race.
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Ripplin said:
Bobby Jay said:
Oh yeah and Yoda should look like this anyway
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Like Kirby? :p
Unfortunately I was unable to accurately reproduce Yoda with the technology available to me at the time. Thankfully, I was able to go back and do it again properly in a Special Edition.
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I'm guessing he'll look better still in the Revisited version.
Your brain just makes s**t up!
A fate worse than death? Having your head digitally replaced with that of Hayden Christensen!
Now I think about it, I don't think the word 'Sith' was ever used in the OT. Nor was padawan, Padme or pod race.
Correct, although Dark Lord of the Sith was in the novelization, and there are apparently notes from the '70s which have the name Mace Windu and the term Padawan in them.
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Molly said:
Now I think about it, I don't think the word 'Sith' was ever used in the OT. Nor was padawan, Padme or pod race.
Correct, although Dark Lord of the Sith was in the novelization, and there are apparently notes from the '70s which have the name Mace Windu and the term Padawan in them.
That is true, though his name was originally Mace Windy not Windu lol. Ive always like the padawan name to be honest. Mace Windy sounds like he suffered from unusual amounts of ermm......gas lol.
Yeah, the correct name from the early script notes is "Windy" ("Windu" was either a mistype or the difficulty in deciphering Lucas' scribblings, for example it was "C.J. Thorpe" not "Usby C.J. Thape"). Source: the Secret History of Star Wars by Michael Kaminski.
You're right, the term "Sith" wasn't even invented by Lucas, but borrowed by him from the time of the early drafts and appears in the novelization ("Sith Lord") referring to Vader. Early on there were many Sith Knights and "Darth" was not a title, but the character's first name (originally Vader was just a "grim looking general" not a cyborg or force user). "Padawaan" was there too.
"Padme" and Pod racing were definite prequel inventions though.
Not to brag, I just finished Kaminski's book, fascinating stuff.
If Jango Fett's voice in the Prequels is going to be changed, doesn't that just reverse the situation but not get rid of the "realism problem" of accents not being inherited?
The way I figured it all these years was that Boba Fett's voice was generated or distorted by his helmet. After all, that was the case with Darth Vader and the "Bousshe" disguise Leia used. It's true the Stormtrooper helmets only distort the voice without changing it (Luke & Han in ANH). Yet in the Prequels not only does Jango's voice just get the "stormtrooper filter" when his helmet is one, it's the same with the clone troopers. Jango's helmet is noticably different than everyone else's in the movies, why not just say when the helmet goes on he suddenly sounds like Classic Trilogy Boba Fett?
Or is his voice going to sound raspy like that all the time? That might be kinda creepy to hear all those troopers talking like him (but it might be cool as hell too).
Then again there's also the possibility that Boba Fett's voice isn't the result of a voice changer OR his "natural" mature voice, but because of some hardships suffered in his bounty hunting career. Maybe his throat is scared or something from battle, or smoking too many death sticks? ;) I mean, back in the day we knew Vader had a life support system, maybe Boba needed the suit to stay alive too? (obviously Jango didn't though)
As for accents, it could be worse... you could be Christopher Lambert, who is considered French (father was a French diplomat), born in Great Neck (ha!), New York, but raised in Switzerland.
Kurgan said:
The way I figured it all these years was that Boba Fett's voice was generated or distorted by his helmet. After all, that was the case with Darth Vader and the "Bousshe" disguise Leia used. It's true the Stormtrooper helmets only distort the voice without changing it (Luke & Han in ANH). Yet in the Prequels not only does Jango's voice just get the "stormtrooper filter" when his helmet is one, it's the same with the clone troopers. Jango's helmet is noticably different than everyone else's in the movies, why not just say when the helmet goes on he suddenly sounds like Classic Trilogy Boba Fett?
I believe that is Adywan's plan. Redubbing Jango helmet-on with someone who does a good Wingreen.
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