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vaderios said:

Enigmas said:

However, I am bothered by the flight path of the shuttle during Needa's visit to the Executor. It seems a bit arching and ponderous to me (for all 7 seconds it's on screen). Is that flight path final?

Asking if the shuttle should go under executor instead of going over it?

Good question. assuming and only that executor have multiple hangars ON the surface NOT only in his belly.

 

-Angel

 

Logistically speaking, a ship as large as the Executor ought to have many hangers, so I'm not that fussed.

But I thought I'd ask.

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Enigmas said:

However, I am bothered by the flight path of the shuttle during Needa's visit to the Executor. It seems a bit arching and ponderous to me (for all 7 seconds it's on screen). Is that flight path final?

Yes, it's final. Ideally i would have liked the shuttle to have taken a path that would take it underneath the Executor, but with its angle that wasn't an option so i just had t go in the direction of the original shuttle

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Ady, when it's all finished, are you gonna release a version with your adjustments minus any new soundtrack from your part? Like, will you have a version with all the visual and sound effects/speech adjustments with the original soundtrack available?

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adywan said:

OK, i have to put the debate about scales to rest now. Forget about the so called sizes of ships that are documented because many are just so wrong. The scale of the Lambda shuttle in the ROTJ opening , which seems to be the basis of the scale, is wrong. See the pics below:

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This would also be a good way to determine just how big the Falcon should be on the backside of the Avenger's conning tower, being that the Falcon (from the front view) would be roughly 25 to 45% wider than the length view of the Lamda in image 1...

         

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Hi All, Hi Adywan,
I have a big request for you Adywan.
I have been following the thread for quite a while now, and am always surprised to what will be announced for Great ideas here to improve the movie even better.

I have made it Ep.4 "New Hope" Translating into German. Since there is unfortunately no German language in New Hope.

I want and I'm certainly not the only Adywan respectfully ask you about the movie in this case "The Empire Strikes Back," an option in the Pal is already in "New Hope" was, and to incorporate an option for German language.

I notice for myself that it is a pagan work, add the German language afterwards, especially with the matter since I'm not quite so familiar. I try though, and am learning every day about this.

Adywan So again the request to you to add a German language, I, my friends, many others and of course my children will thank you surely.

With respect for your absolute fantastic work > ZeN

Sry for Stupid google translater.......

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vaderios said:

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 Hi-rez please?

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Enigmas said:

However, I am bothered by the flight path of the shuttle during Needa's visit to the Executor. It seems a bit arching and ponderous to me (for all 7 seconds it's on screen). Is that flight path final?

It's not really that big of a deal. I'm just (exasperatingly) curious. :) 

Have to say that although the 'zippy-ness' of the original 'box' craft has gone, I reckon the new 'drop-down' and path downwards looks really good with this new shuttle.  I think it's movement still works well with the existing music cue that's heard here.

 

Just as an aside -  I always thought that this was another alternative place where part of the impressive, slow-moving 'overhead' Stardestroyer element that is being discarded from the start of 'ROTJ:Revisited' might have integrated nicely....although it would have meant re-working the new shuttle's flightpath (and music cue) a little differently - 

....just after the scene on Dagobah which ends with Yoda telling Luke "That is why you fail"....the fade would then go to the 'ROTJ shuttle' dropping down and opening it's wings, and the  background would now just be a starfield with a glimpse of one or two other Stardestroyers which also seem to be in a 'holding pattern' at this point (no TIEs dropping down either, of course)....

....then perhaps at a point where the wings have fully extended, we'd then cut to the shot which reveals the 'Executor' below as Adywan's new shuttle continues on it's path downward from underneath the front bay instead (with the shots 'colour-corrected' to match up, of course) -

So it would have had the same sort of an 'extra shot' feel that Jaitea's version had -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6B92nPs8lg

However, it turned out to be a moot point now that Ady has pointed out that the shuttle in the ROTJ shot is the wrong scale (too big) coming out of the 'forward' bay anyway....and I'm personally more than happy with how his new version has turned out -   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSjLImZq7Ao

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Perhaps someone can clarify this for me?

This is something else I've been wondering for a while now, as I haven't seen Adywan's AVCHD 'Empire' to see how this particular scene was 'colour-corrected'.

Those in-depth 'technical journals' over at the 'TFnet' site reckon that these following 'tower' shots belong to the 'Executor', and going by the SE DVDs I can see why....  However, although the SE colouration makes it look like this 'tower' is somewhat BLUE, it is nowhere near the stronger colour of the SE 'Executor' itself that comes a couple of shots later....which isn't saying much, considering the quality of the colouring on the SE's.... 

The other thing that makes me query the info. on that site about this, is that the original colouration in the GOUT makes this 'tower' seem even more like the 'whiteness' of a 'standard' Stardestroyer, rather than the 'blueness' of the 'Executor'.

I always thought that when this 'tower' appears, that we are seeing a 'standard' Stardestroyer in 'close-up' which seems huge in itself....before we cut away to a 'standard' Stardestroyer (the same one perhaps?) being 'overshadowed' by something bigger....before we finally end up cutting to see the reveal of the 'Executor' overhead -

....so could someone kindly confirm that this is the case on Adywan's AVCHD too?

One of the things I'm really looking forward to in 'ESB:R' is better colouration for the various craft seen, especially the Stardestroyers and the 'Executor'....as seen in this shot that was previously previewed - 

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Thanks for that vaderios. 

So it is a 'standard' Stardestroyer after all....  Looks great now.  :)

Guess the 'technical journals' were indeed wrong about this one.

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ZeN said:

Hi All, Hi Adywan,
I have a big request for you Adywan.

I want and I'm certainly not the only one, Adywan, to respectfully ask you to incorporate an option for German language.

With respect for your absolute fantastic work > ZeN

Sry for Stupid google translater.......

sorry for the stupid quote hack ;)

found some here:-

http://www.opensubtitles.org/en/subtitles/150029/star-wars-episode-v-the-empire-strikes-back-de

 

but i do understand that it will require a lot of effort by someone to get the timings right in ESB:R. Which leads me to wonder if there is any additional dialogue getting added?

 

Boshi.

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vaderios said:

An exterior sketch.

Fixing the perspective problems and make the shot more interesting

-Angel

I like the new shot but maybe just soften the background a bit.

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vaderios said:

Here Impfighter. Straight from the AVCHD.

-Angel

Uh oh!  Are the Star Destroyer engines going to be blue?



Also, by making the shuttle a little larger it will be easier to see.

BTW, is there any way to darken the SD hull a little more?  I think it does look quite a bit improved over the original scene, but it would be interesting just to see how it would look...



So folks, what do you think (just darkened the lighting by @ 20% to 30%)?

         

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Siliconmaster482 said:

Ganamae said:

could some of the snow storm scenes from the latest Star Trek movie be useful for some ESB:R scenes?

Haha. Blasphemy!

As a Trekkie, I find that suggestion quite amusing. :P

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Monroville said:

Uh oh!  Are the Star Destroyer engines going to be blue?



Also, by making the shuttle a little larger it will be easier to see.

BTW, is there any way to darken the SD hull a little more?  I think it does look quite a bit improved over the original scene, but it would be interesting just to see how it would look...

 

yes, the engines are going to be blue. The AVCHD was only a colour correction to be closer to the original and the engines weren't blue for the most part originally in ESB for some strange reason.

I don't want to darken the hull any more. darkening it makes the stardestroyer blend into the background too much. Even though the lighting is incorrect the focus is immediately on the top stardestroyer being lighter which it should be

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Ripplin said:

Siliconmaster482 said:

Ganamae said:

could some of the snow storm scenes from the latest Star Trek movie be useful for some ESB:R scenes?

Haha. Blasphemy!

As a Trekkie, I find that suggestion quite amusing. :P

As a Trekker, I find the use of the term 'Trekkie' to be blasphemy!

Just kidding. ;) You can go about your business. (yeah, I'm a Star Wars fan, too! Haha. What are they called, anyway?)

 

^^ Well many of us were called lots of things in school.....nothing very nice though.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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adywan said:

Monroville said:

Uh oh!  Are the Star Destroyer engines going to be blue?




BTW, is there any way to darken the SD hull a little more?  I think it does look quite a bit improved over the original scene, but it would be interesting just to see how it would look...

 

 

I don't want to darken the hull any more. darkening it makes the stardestroyer blend into the background too much. Even though the lighting is incorrect the focus is immediately on the top stardestroyer being lighter which it should be

Cool enough... it does look like the hull is darker than what it was in the GOUT and looks a lot less like a brightly lit model, which is the overall desired end.  At the least, the lighting matches the escort SD, so there is at least some consistency too.

BTW, thanks for the quick reply.. so what time is it in the UK right now (I have 30 minutes past midnight here)?

         

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vaderios said:

And for those who interested,

Here is the size changes.

-Angel

This was a helpful comparison shot vaderios, thanks.

Adywan's newly-scaled shuttle will look even better in the shot now that it's slightly bigger than before.

And it's good to know that the existing ROTJ one in the 'forward' bay seems less jarring now - 

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Adywan, with the 'scaling' rule of thumb, starting point thing being established as being the outer 'Bridge' detail on the 'Executor's' command tower (whose tower is similar in size to the 'standard' Stardestroyer ones)....I just wondered if it's even possible for you to amend this moving shot where the Falcon is concerned or not, or if it's going to have to stay as it is.

This was always a great shot that I liked, and it will remain a great shot even if it won't be altered.  Just curious, but I'll understand if you don't want to confirm it either way yet.

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vaderios said:

And for those who interested,

Here is the size changes.

-Angel

Nice that we can have continuity and it be a bit bigger.  It seems like a pretty model to only use in one shot and for it to be so tiny. :-)

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