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he knew luke was his son because his name was luke SKYWALKER. and he and padme most likely talked about naming (if they had one) their boy luke 

Enigmas said:

Was Vader unaware that Luke was his son or did he know and want to recruit him from the start?

I am genuinely confused. This seems an important bit of canon, but it is explained very hazily.

The problem with the Star Wars trilogy is that it was not planned out from the beginning, but developed over time with constant recons to provide surprising plot twists ("I AM your father!" "Leia! Leia is my sister!"). In all honestly, the original trilogy pre-SE had its fair share of issues, but I think we were all willing to suspend belief and let them slide.

Since Luke's father and Darth Vader were two different people when the first SW was made, Luke growing up with the Skywalker sirname didn't matter. Had George thought of the whole hiding Luke from his evil father thing while he wrote the first film, I am sure he would have seen fit to change his sirname.

C3PX said:

Enigmas said:

Was Vader unaware that Luke was his son or did he know and want to recruit him from the start?

I am genuinely confused. This seems an important bit of canon, but it is explained very hazily.

 

The problem with the Star Wars trilogy is that it was not planned out from the beginning, but developed over time with constant recons to provide surprising plot twists ("I AM your father!" "Leia! Leia is my sister!"). In all honestly, the original trilogy pre-SE had its fair share of issues, but I think we were all willing to suspend belief and let them slide.

Since Luke's father and Darth Vader were two different people when the first SW was made, Luke growing up with the Skywalker sirname didn't matter. Had George thought of the whole hiding Luke from his evil father thing while he wrote the first film, I am sure he would have seen fit to change his sirname.

 

Someone on Tatooine should have remembered Shmi or Anikan. They could have said hey Luke your daddy was an asshole LOL.

And your grandma was a promiscuous liar.

Wow, I wonder how much farther this thread is going to go off topic...

EyeShotFirst said:

C3PX said:

Enigmas said:

Was Vader unaware that Luke was his son or did he know and want to recruit him from the start?

I am genuinely confused. This seems an important bit of canon, but it is explained very hazily.

 

The problem with the Star Wars trilogy is that it was not planned out from the beginning, but developed over time with constant recons to provide surprising plot twists ("I AM your father!" "Leia! Leia is my sister!"). In all honestly, the original trilogy pre-SE had its fair share of issues, but I think we were all willing to suspend belief and let them slide.

Since Luke's father and Darth Vader were two different people when the first SW was made, Luke growing up with the Skywalker sirname didn't matter. Had George thought of the whole hiding Luke from his evil father thing while he wrote the first film, I am sure he would have seen fit to change his sirname.

 

Someone on Tatooine should have remembered Shmi or Anikan. They could have said hey Luke your daddy was an asshole LOL.

 

Anakin lived in Mos Espa and Luke in Mos Eisley. :)

Darth Venal said:

C3PX:

Since Luke's father and Darth Vader were two different people when the first SW was made, Luke growing up with the Skywalker sirname didn't matter. Had George thought of the whole hiding Luke from his evil father thing while he wrote the first film, I am sure he would have seen fit to change his sirname

Actually, that wouldn't have made any difference. Why? Because he didn't have to give Anakin the same surname. Luke Skywalker could have been the changed name, but he instead chose to keep Skywalker as his father's surname.

I don't really see why it had to be changed anyway, because Vader was never going to return to Tatooine and wouldn't have known he had a son to go looking for.

I was reading the novel for A New Hope (which was written in 1976) and Vader says that Tatooine is a 'miserable planet' - now we know why he would say this.

Darth Chronus said:

EyeShotFirst said:

C3PX said:

Enigmas said:

Was Vader unaware that Luke was his son or did he know and want to recruit him from the start?

I am genuinely confused. This seems an important bit of canon, but it is explained very hazily.

 

The problem with the Star Wars trilogy is that it was not planned out from the beginning, but developed over time with constant recons to provide surprising plot twists ("I AM your father!" "Leia! Leia is my sister!"). In all honestly, the original trilogy pre-SE had its fair share of issues, but I think we were all willing to suspend belief and let them slide.

Since Luke's father and Darth Vader were two different people when the first SW was made, Luke growing up with the Skywalker sirname didn't matter. Had George thought of the whole hiding Luke from his evil father thing while he wrote the first film, I am sure he would have seen fit to change his sirname.

 

Someone on Tatooine should have remembered Shmi or Anikan. They could have said hey Luke your daddy was an asshole LOL.

 

 

Anakin lived in Mos Espa and Luke in Mos Eisley. :)

I live in Tennessee but I know hundreds of people from Kentucky. What's your point?

EyeShotFirst said:

Darth Chronus said:

EyeShotFirst said:

C3PX said:

Enigmas said:

Was Vader unaware that Luke was his son or did he know and want to recruit him from the start?

I am genuinely confused. This seems an important bit of canon, but it is explained very hazily.

 

The problem with the Star Wars trilogy is that it was not planned out from the beginning, but developed over time with constant recons to provide surprising plot twists ("I AM your father!" "Leia! Leia is my sister!"). In all honestly, the original trilogy pre-SE had its fair share of issues, but I think we were all willing to suspend belief and let them slide.

Since Luke's father and Darth Vader were two different people when the first SW was made, Luke growing up with the Skywalker sirname didn't matter. Had George thought of the whole hiding Luke from his evil father thing while he wrote the first film, I am sure he would have seen fit to change his sirname.

 

Someone on Tatooine should have remembered Shmi or Anikan. They could have said hey Luke your daddy was an asshole LOL.

 

 

Anakin lived in Mos Espa and Luke in Mos Eisley. :)

I live in Tennessee but I know hundreds of people from Kentucky. What's your point?

 

Well Luke may have kept himself at the homestead and near Mos Eisley (and Anchorhead) - so may not have come in contact with anyone from Mos Espa. Though I suppose you're right - that would be rather hilarious :)

I dunno whether Sebulba died between TPM and ANH, but he could tell Luke that his father was a complete muppet. 

Darth Venal said:

EyeShotFirst:

"I live in Tennessee but I know hundreds of people from Kentucky. What's your point?"

You already know those people, which isn't the same thing as knowing the son of someone you used to know if you never met them.

Ah and this is exactly my point :) Thanks Venal. 

Everyone knows me where I comw from....There's only one me with MY surname...I'm a legend in my own right...Just like Skywalker!!!

I'm so cool!!!!!!!!!!!

Darth Chronus said:

I was reading the novel for A New Hope (which was written in 1976) and Vader says that Tatooine is a 'miserable planet' - now we know why he would say this.

But again, that was retconned. When Alan Dean Foster wrote the novel entitles Star Wars he hadn't the slightest idea that one day a whiney young version of the villian he was writting that line for would turn out to have grown up there.

Darth Venal said:

EyeShotFirst:

"I live in Tennessee but I know hundreds of people from Kentucky. What's your point?"

You already know those people, which isn't the same thing as knowing the son of someone you used to know if you never met them.

I guess someone's point of view on this matter is likely to be quite different, depending on the size of the places you have lived in. I was born and partially raised in what was essentiall the outskirts of a farming community. When you are dealing with smaller populations like that, things are very different. Even in other cities or communities around the area I grew up I'd run into strangers who'd recognize me or my last name and strike up a conversation revealing that they know some of my relatives. If you are used to living in larger cities, I can see how unimaginable something like this may be.

It is not that unbelievable that the Lars and the Skywalkers would be fairly well known in the region, not just because the Lars family were moisture farmers, but also because Anakin was a young celebrity, being the galaxies only human podracer, and having won the Bonta Eve race at the age of 9. Next there was the incident with the Tusken Raiders kidnapping Shimi, and if you take the little war going on between the Tuskens and the farmers from the EP.II novelization as canon, the Lars family would have likely been well known within the moisture farming circles.

Either way, this discussion has absolutely no point, it was brought up as a humorous little pondering.

Darth Venal said:

My Dad was from Palermo. If I go there, will people stop me and tell me about him?

They do that in greece :P

especially to country villages

-Angel

C3PX said:

Darth Chronus said:

I was reading the novel for A New Hope (which was written in 1976) and Vader says that Tatooine is a 'miserable planet' - now we know why he would say this.

 

But again, that was retconned. When Alan Dean Foster wrote the novel entitles Star Wars he hadn't the slightest idea that one day a whiney young version of the villian he was writting that line for would turn out to have grown up there.

I know it's been retconned in AOTC, but it's just that I think it sounds kind of appropriate in there anyway. 

Ive just thought what about if instead on saying luke skywalker in the epilogue, why cant we say he had been known as the starkiller since he indeed destroyed the death star. This is a wink to the old story and make an alias for luke and thus vader tryin to find out who the starkiller is, on top of that the emporer finds out the real name and making the whole hologram scene in the asteriod field. Anybody thinks this is a good idea?

Original:

It is a dark time for the
Rebellion. Although the Death
Star has been destroyed,
Imperial troops have driven the
Rebel forces from their hidden
base and pursued them across
the galaxy.

Evading the dreaded Imperial
Starfleet, a group of freedom
fighters led by Luke Skywalker
has established a new secret
base on the remote ice world
of Hoth.

The evil lord Darth Vader,
obsessed with finding young
Skywalker, has dispatched
thousands of remote probes into
the far reaches of space…

My edit:

It is a dark time for the
Rebellion. Although the Death
Star has been destroyed,
Imperial troops have driven the
Rebel forces from their hidden
base and pursued them across
the galaxy.

Evading the dreaded Imperial
Starfleet, a group of freedom
fighters led by the Luke Skywalker

under the name of Starkiller
has established a new secret
base on the remote ice world
of Hoth.

The evil lord Darth Vader,
obsessed with finding young
Starkiller, has dispatched
thousands of remote probes into
the far reaches of space…

Does noting for me either