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Any plans to remove the boom mike in Lukes googles in just before he is knocked of the Tauntaun? More articulation to the Tauntauns eyes?
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Altering the order of shots will really mess up the soundtrack, and finding a cue from other areas in the score is not a good idea for ESB, imo. I do prefer the way it plays out as we are used to. Darth Stewie's re-arrangement results in too much cutting back and forth and could be disorienting. Just my opinion, though.

The snow seems almost too gray to my eyes, but if it matches closer to GOUT, then it's fine by me. How 'bout a third version of this sequence with a three-way split amongst Revisited/2004/GOUT?

Anyhow, looking great as usual, Ady!

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Looking good so far, a huge improvement over the 04 dvd.....peace....
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Already a huge improvement. Before this project started I never noticed just how screwed up the colors were on the 2004 DVD's

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Looks awesome Ady! At the end when the tauntaun comes into the base, when he stops at the very end, it looks like it's feet are floating, not having contact with the snow. I does not look like he is really standing there.

D. Stewie's cut is also not bad.
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The snow seems almost too gray to my eyes, but if it matches closer to GOUT, then it's fine by me. How 'bout a third version of this sequence with a three-way split amongst Revisited/2004/GOUT?

That's my bad. i rendered the wrong layer for the clips. Well actually there is an extra layer that was supposed to be rendered with it but was disabled. You see, when i'm doing the colour correction, to get rid of the horrible cyan tint on the 2004 DVDs a lot of the blue tinting is lost and some subtle colours are also lost in the process. Once this is done i have to add an extra layer containing the 2004 DVD, but with the cyan tint changed to blue and overlayed at about 25% transparency. this brings the subtle blue tinting back to the snow, but i forgot to enable the layer. oops . you can see a comparison here:
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Sevb32 said:

Any plans to remove the boom mike in Lukes googles in just before he is knocked of the Tauntaun? More articulation to the Tauntauns eyes?

I never actually noticed that at first. I'll see what i can do.
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How come you reversed the trigectory of the pod blast in the clip? Me thinks its because of the way the pod was launched?

If you mean the shot where Luke see's it crash then for some reason they flipped one of the shots so for continuity i flipped it. They used the same shot but filmed at a distance.

Darth Stewie, i've just had a look at your clip and i can see what you are getting at but i prefer it the way it is. i've never had a problem with the timeline taking a step back for this. This is one scene i will always remember sitting with my mates in the cinema in 1980. we see the probe land and then emerge so we know what's in it. next we see Luke see it land. Now when the Taun Taun becomes agitated the first thing my mate said was that it was sensing the probe droid coming to get Luke then we were all surprised when its actually the Wampa because we really were expecting it to be the droid. So i will be keeping the original edit.
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At the end when the tauntaun comes into the base, when he stops at the very end, it looks like it's feet are floating, not having contact with the snow. I does not look like he is really standing there.

yeh, thats one of the unfinished shots. theres still a lot of colour correction to do and i'm going to attempt to smooth out the Taun Taun motion like i have in all the other shots.

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adywan said:

Savage said:


The snow seems almost too gray to my eyes, but if it matches closer to GOUT, then it's fine by me. How 'bout a third version of this sequence with a three-way split amongst Revisited/2004/GOUT?

That's my bad. i rendered the wrong layer for the clips. Well actually there is an extra layer that was supposed to be rendered with it but was disabled. You see, when i'm doing the colour correction, to get rid of the horrible cyan tint on the 2004 DVDs a lot of the blue tinting is lost and some subtle colours are also lost in the process. Once this is done i have to add an extra layer containing the 2004 DVD, but with the cyan tint changed to blue and overlayed at about 25% transparency. this brings the subtle blue tinting back to the snow, but i forgot to enable the layer. oops . you can see a comparison here:
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5915/withlayertintta4.jpg

Any chance you could redo that preview with the layer on please? please please please?
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adywan said:

...i prefer it the way it is. i've never had a problem with the timeline taking a step back for this. This is one scene i will always remember sitting with my mates in the cinema in 1980. we see the probe land and then emerge so we know what's in it. next we see Luke see it land.

Heh. I always figured it was 2 different probes, and the first one landed nowhere near Luke (maybe other side of the planet).

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Did you remove the Wampa arm puppeteer to the extreme left that is shown for less than a second? I didn't see it. So I am assuming yes, unless I have my screen formatted wrong. Yes, the boom mike is seen off and on Luke's googles in the scene.

But it looks like things are coming along nicely!
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The arm and head are gone, thank heavens. You can see the difference in the split screen that I did not create but am somehow responsible for, much like the ANHR Visual Comparison.

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Well Adywan....the determinedly Star Wars-lovin' side of me that still survives and hasn't been totally disenfranchised yet despite certain 'creative choices' over the years by Lucasfilm....just fell over at the thought of how potentially wonderful this whole 'Empire Revisited' project may eventually turn out, judging by that initial 2 minute preview! Terrific stuff, and your new Probe entry/crash rocks! No more 'pink blob'! And no 'flames' now as the Probe Droid moves off from the crater.... And the now uniform Hoth Planet blue 'atmosphere'.... And the 'human-less' Wampa arm.... And a more-blinking Tauntaun now.... And the more natural colour throughout.... And the wonderful new starfields.... And that's just the first couple of minutes! We are so lucky to have you doing this amazing work for us to eventually enjoy, and many thanks for the ongoing updates. I wish I had half your technical prowness Ady. Where the hell did you learn to do all this?

One tiny point that was flagged up that I'd probably agree with, is the fact that perhaps your Tauntaun 'eye-blinks' could be a little more rapid, as the slower 'blinks' tend to still be a bit too 'animatronic'-looking, if you know what I mean. But hey, I'll take 'em over the existing footage any day!

Liked that '2010:The year we make contact' quote by the way vbangle. ;)


Onto business, here's a little something I've only just noticed recently -

As C3PO complains to Chewbacca carrying him "....Ow!....That hurt....bend down you thoughtless....", as he bends down to get in the Falcon....C3PO's head slightly hits the red 'light' fixture beside the ramp....and knocks it off! Maybe the 'Props' guys used double-sided tape for it! :) Anyway, can we get that sorted so it stays in place?



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Onto business, here's a little something I've only just noticed recently -

As C3PO complains to Chewbacca carrying him "....Ow!....That hurt....bend down you thoughtless....", as he bends down to get in the Falcon....C3PO's head slightly hits the red 'light' fixture beside the ramp....and knocks it off! Maybe the props guys used double-sided tape for it! :) Anyway, can we get that sorted so it stays in place?


I used to imagine that was a homing beacon that wasn't so secure about their ship. You know, a real obvious one so you think you've got it, when in reality there's a better disguised one somewhere else. But that was as a child, and I later realized that it was last movie when they were tracking the ship and not in this one.

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Couple more quick ones for today, then I'm off to actually do some work!

That second (better detailed, less blurry) 'close-up' of the viewscreen 'surround' is a bit transparent at the bottom, and we can see Admiral Piet through it. Could you 'solidify' it for us Ady?

Need to look carefully for this one - On the initial long shot reveal of the 'plectrum'-shaped structure, on the side facing us near the position where the entrance into it is....there seems to be a couple of flashing 'lights' above and below the 'walkway' that Luke was hanging onto, that are NOT there in the next shot of Luke heading towards the entrance. Could you remove them for us?

I'll be back tomorrow with a couple of issues I'd REALLY like to see sorted that I think are relevant and could be neat!

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ImperialFighter said:

Couple more quick ones for today, then I'm off to actually do some work!

That second (better detailed, less blurry) 'close-up' of the viewscreen 'surround' is a bit transparent at the bottom, and we can see Admiral Piet through it. Could you 'solidify' it for us Ady?

Need to look carefully for this one - On the initial long shot reveal of the 'plectrum'-shaped structure, on the side facing us near the position where the entrance into it is....there seems to be a couple of flashing 'lights' that are NOT there in the next shot of Luke heading towards the entrance. Could you remove them for us?

I'll be back tomorrow with a couple of issues I'd REALLY like to see sorted that I think are relevant and could be neat!



Between ImperialFighter and Adywan both watching the whole movie frame by frame, there should be no continuity problems in this movie!

There was one continuity error I wanted to mention, but I don't think I did. When Han first walks into the Echo Base control center, Leia is looking at him across the room from between two techs. After Han walks across the room to the General, Leia is looking at him again, but this time the frame is flipped because Han is on the other side of the room. It makes sense if you don't look at it too hard because Leia is supposed to be looking over her other shoulder at Han. However, the techs have switched sides. I guess you could recolor their hair and it would make it a little less obvious.

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Right, I'm sqeezing in ONE more little thing that just came to mind, having been reminded of it by mentioning that 'knocked off' red ramp light....

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Going back to perhaps adding a red 'light' dot to the end 'close-ups' of the Millennium Falcon model at the end- It might look really good to also add the two red 'lights' to the front ends to, to also match the look of the Falcon as seen on the platform of the 'floating city', and when it blasts off from there. I think these would really help to make these shots look even better, and add to a sense of realism if they tie together more with the earlier platform shots.


I forgot that there is also an earlier model shot of the Falcon inside the asteroid slug, just after Vader says "I want that ship, not excuses" and his chamber closes.... This is a shot showing it's lit-up underside from a low angle. This time the two lights at the front of it are actually white light (like when it first flies down through asteroid cave) rather than red light.

There are inconsistencies throughout the original trilogy concerning these, but I wonder if it is possible to either have these red too, or perhaps CHANGING from white to red (or vice versa) during this brief shot, which would explain it a bit, and ties in with the next interior shot where Han is doing something and 'shutting things down'?


I would really like this red 'lights' issue looking a bit more uniform across the board during 'Empire' if possible. I think Han must have decided to upgrade his beloved Falcon a little, during his time with the rebels since 'A New Hope'! ;)

As far as what I said above about perhaps having the two 'front prongs' red 'lights' CHANGING....I've realised that the 'white' ones come on as the Falcon first enters the asteroid 'cave', so if you do have them 'changing' while it's 'parked' in the slug's belly....it will of course be from WHITE into RED!

Also, can we just have the ONE red light at the side of the cockpit 'arm', as is shown in certain 'close-ups' of the full-size prop at times, such as when C3PO scrambles aboard so not to get left behind in the ice cave? And could you remove the WHITE 'lower' one that is seen in the background during Leia talking to the crowd of orange-clad rebels....along with removing the RED 'lower' one that is now there when snowtroopers set up their gun emplacement in front of it, during the scene in the ice cave? If you DO decide to add the single red 'light' dot to the side of the Falcon (and red ones at the front too?), during the 'fleet' shots at the end, then the whole thing should be a bit more uniform over the whole movie now.

And my absolutely final :) thoughts on red 'lights' anywhere is this - I reckon on the shot of the Falcon actually 'landing' on the 'floating city' platform....that the red ones should come on at that point to match the shot of it soon after, where Han is walking towards Lando....and because it would 'add a little something to the shot' too. The red 'lights' would come on just off-centre of the two prongs, and either come on just at the point where it fires it's short 'jets' briefly....or just come on immediately a the point where the 'jets' have gone off again, and it has subtly jerked to FULLY being on the platform, where they would only be seen for a brief moment before the shot cuts to the next.
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ImperialFighter said:


One tiny point that was flagged up that I'd probably agree with, is the fact that perhaps your Tauntaun 'eye-blinks' could be a little more rapid, as the slower 'blinks' tend to still be a bit too 'animatronic'-looking, if you know what I mean. But hey, I'll take 'em over the existing footage any day!

I haven't done anything to the taun taun eye blinks, just smoothed out the running motion a bit.
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You need to take some screenshots, cause I'm getting lost...

i was thinking the same thing. Screenshots make it a lot easier to follow cuz i'm totally lost too. :)

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I've just gone back and added some more detail in my last post for you doubleofive. I hope you and Ady can follow the shots I mean now.

Ady, I thought you'd done a little work there on the 'blinks'! Good, then there's still the chance you might consider some?

Till tomorrow then.... ;)
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I figured the best way to make suggestions was to rewatch the film with a notepad and pen. Here are a few more suggestions that I have read and ones that I noticed in movie order (updated my previous list from post 548)

-Insert FX of Probe entering Hoth's atmosphere
-Fix Prop Droids crash landing (remove fire)
-Add more display to Snowspeeder's instrument panels
-Add Red hint to Bacta Tank for continuity
-Fix Probe shooting at Chewbacca (closer to his location)
-Fix location of Droid Han tells to 'wait a minute' (it doesn't wait)
-Reedit Rebels Running at fallen AT-AT for no reason ("Common!")
-Add Camera shake to Luke's Snowspeeder Crash
-Fix AT-AT's laser shot hitting snow then rebel falling dead
-Fix Vader's Chest lights to move when entering Rebel base
-Add FX enviroment reaction from MF engine thrust as it exits hanger
-Fix MF engine glow from gold to blue
-Add more maneuvers to MF as it is being chased by TIE Fighters
-Fix FX asteroids (Matte lines)
-Remove 'explosions/fire' of asteroids colliding, add debris (how do astroids catch fire?)
-Add explosion/reaction were laser shots hit asteroids
-Fix Laser shots that disappear without hitting anything
-Fix FX of MF being upside down, but right side up in cockpit shot
-Add Camera shake to Luke's X-Wing crash on Dagobah
-Add missing push button off Luke's Lightsaber close ups on Dagobah
-Add damage to asteroids from Bombers
-Replace Tool in Han's Hand w/Blaster
-Add Laser shot hitting Mynock
-Restore Laser Audio bite from Chewies bowcaster
-Add movement for animal running away after Luke 'steps' on it (movement of fog)
-Fix Luke's Lighsaber glow to match activation sound (in the Cave when fighting Vader)
-Fix jump-cut of Vader's mask exploding to reveal Luke
-Fix Piets location jump (from "..we don't need their scum" to "urgent message from Stardestroyer Avenger"
-Fix Needa to a dead weight when being carried off
-Fix Stormtrooper helmet being lifted up by Han (Drop Han off after being tortured)
-Fix Stunt man to look more like Luke (goes out window)
-Add MF landing gear retracting when taking off from Bespin
-Add Lightsaber Scortch marks on walls/railings
-Fix 3P0's hand location holdling severed leg
-Add Movement to Medial Droid (auto-off after fixing Luke's Hand?)
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Adywan said:


Sevb32 said:

Any plans to remove the boom mike in Lukes googles in just before he is knocked of the Tauntaun? More articulation to the Tauntauns eyes?

I never actually noticed that at first. I'll see what i can do.


You mean this boom mike?
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Haven't had chance to check the progress of this edit for nearly 2 weeks (broke my collar bone).

Needless to say I'm totally gobsmacked with the first 2 minutes, awesome effort - especially as I love a good starfield.

Ady, are you fuelled by Stella or something? Cheers.
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ok, well here's the preview with the proper colouring (well apart from the very last shot which i haven't finished work on yet). there's also a new shot or two in there that i have just finished. I'm also adding this to the first page for ease. Oh, and still no footprints in the snow. Its just impossible to track the motion with the tools i have on that shot to add them but the boom mic is gone

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