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AxiaEuxine said:

Heres an idea, I know the exterior window shot is an establishing shot for the apartment scene buyt what if we removed the windows entirely? Just make it part of the building? That way there is no discontinuity with Leias apartment or the window in the roof becuase its obviously some other building that Leia is in. Im not even sure I like this idea but it popped in my brain so Im throwing it out there.

Thats's certainly an interesting solution AxiaEuxine!  But I'd miss that classic long-shot of Leia pacing inside the apartment, and it would seem a little strange to focus so much on the 'cloud-car' travelling around a portion of a supposedly different building to one where we'd then cut to Leia as being in....

Thee 5 buildings that are the farthest away stand out to much like paintings can those be fixed?  

Savage said:

I don't think the size of the Falcon needs to be changed.  It's large enough to be noticed, but not small enough to miss - post-RotJ dimensions be damned! :)

I also don't think it's necessary to add any 'engine glow' power down,etc. to tell the viewer "LOOK HERE!!!"  One of the nice things about the shot is that you don't necessarily see the Falcon right away.  When you finally notice it for the first time, you get that sense of "oh, there they are," and "I can see why the Empire wouldn't even notice them, since I didn't."  An engine glow would stick out and draw the viewer's attention to the Falcon too quickly.

 

 I 've gotta agree 100%  we all know the falcon is there, they're HIDING and trying to avoid detection and sensors of the star destroyer,  why put flashing lights and engine glows pointing to where they are hiding?  It seems like a very Lucas Prequal approach to make it bleeding obvious to the uninformed viewer,  it's a much nicer reveal if the Falcon appears camouflaged at first.

I'm pretty sure that in the radio adaption they had to power off completely to avoid being sensed ,   it added to the tension of the scene.

Hey guys, do you know of any freeware/open source versions of the software that you use for editing? Sony Vegas and Adobe After Effects is way too expensive to pay retail for.

I never liked this shot:

It's obvious that balcony used to be a closed wall because why would they leave an open entrance into cloud city from outside. Doesn't it rain on cloud city? PErhaps this could be changed to look more convincing.

Janskeet said:

I never liked this shot:

It's obvious that balcony used to be a closed wall because why would they leave an open entrance into cloud city from outside. Doesn't it rain on cloud city? PErhaps this could be changed to look more convincing.

Those of us who have seen the trailer like what they see.

Janskeet, Adywan has already previewed a very nice tweak to this shot (where he has raised the height of the barrier)

I know of plenty of balconies that are exposed to all-weathers.  I'd imagine there could be many of them on the Bespin city.  After all, what a view....

These are my examples of how, if a certain building is re-used in same shots or different shots, it doesn't coincidently look exactly the same, differing window light patterns, not all the same lights are off or on. This breaks up the monotony and makes things not look so cloned. Something to consider. All 4 of these are different. This was quickly done to suit my point.

I have an idea. Let's just make Cloud City out of glass so there are windows 360. That way we can add cityscapes to every single shot and bang people over the head with gratuitous CG.

Tobar said:

Janskeet said:

I never liked this shot:

It's obvious that balcony used to be a closed wall because why would they leave an open entrance into cloud city from outside. Doesn't it rain on cloud city? PErhaps this could be changed to look more convincing.

 

I really wish you would at least try to look around a little before posting Janskeet. Right there in Ady's first post there's a side by side comparison of that shot.

I think Janskeet was saying that the altered scene (even in Ady's version) isn't as convincing as it could be because the wall on the other side of the balcony looks like an interior wall than an exterior wall (mostly because of the architecture which would be a real bugger to change).

Ady seems to be finished with what he is going to do with it but perhaps further colour alteration (it's a white polished wall so it might reflect the tinted light more) would add to the impression that this is an exterior shot rather than an interior one with a balcony painted on one wall).

Ady's floor and raised balcony does make the illusion more convincing than it was.

Again, wait until the trailer.

Sevb32 said:

Again, wait until the trailer.

I've seen the trailer.

Oh then you should know. I thought that shot looked better than ever.

Sevb32 said:

Oh then you should know. I thought that shot looked better than ever.

It does as I indicated in my posting but those observations are still true even in Ady's greatly improved version.

The far wall still looks like an interior wall and not really like an exterior one and there isn't much (other than tinkering with it's reflective properties) that can be done about it.

It was designed to be inside and in the SE it was turned into an exterior wall, Lucas's first attempt had the silly low railing and the see through shadows (which Ady has skillfully fixed) but it also reflected the tint on the far wall which Ady's version doesn't do so much (sure the sky is different and much better) but perhaps a little tweak would turn an already better version into an even better one.

But there is only so much that can be done with the set as it originally was.

Bingowings said:

Sevb32 said:

Oh then you should know. I thought that shot looked better than ever.

It does as I indicated in my posting but those observations are still true even in Ady's greatly improved version.

The far wall still looks like an interior wall and not really like an exterior one and there isn't much (other than tinkering with it's reflective properties) that can be done about it.

It was designed to be inside and in the SE it was turned into an exterior wall, Lucas's first attempt had the silly low railing and the see through shadows (which Ady has skillfully fixed) but it also reflected the tint on the far wall which Ady's version doesn't do so much (sure the sky is different and much better) but perhaps a little tweak would turn an already better version into an even better one.

But there is only so much that can be done with the set as it originally was.

 

I say so what if it leads to an interior wall. Who's to say it can't be designed that way in Cloud City?

I don't like these sets. They look cool but there is no logic to them. It looks like George Lucas was torn between making a set that is the interior of the death star or the interior of cloud city. I don't understand the logic of this set at all. I've seen some Fan fiction and star wars books that show the analogy of these sets, but I'm not buying them.

This one looks too much like the window in ROTJ. Is there suppose to be some symbolism between this window and the ROTJ throne room window or is this just a case of George Lucas over indulging in his obsessive compulsions?