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Dangerous Incorporated said:

The camera shake was a PT thing and was never used in the OT. And being this was the only camera shake in the entire OT would be out of place no?

If he were to add a camera shake to the AT-AT falling, it would be the second one he is adding to ESB. (that we know of) He has already added a shake to the "take evasive action!" scene and it makes a big difference. :)

You can watch the shake here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTp8mKFxmbg&feature=PlayList&p=4DB0EA9A58709519&index=34

Look how they all fall as if suddenly paralized in the original. :p

 

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wasn't there a camera shake in ROTJ when the AWings destroy the main bridge deflector sheilds? the only thing different was that no one acted like there was a shake.

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And there was some added camera shake to SW:R when the Falcon was caught in it's 'tractor beam'

There's a lotta shakin' potentially going on in the O.T.:Revisited....  :)

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ImperialFighter said:

And there was some added camera shake to SW:R when the Falcon was caught in it's 'tractor beam'

There's a lotta shakin' potentially going on in the O.T.:Revisited....  :)

Thanx for the clip. It works well.

I hadnt noticed any others off hand. Will have to look again tonight.

 

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Dangerous Incorporated said:
ladyferry said:

Not on topic, I found something:

Lightsabers, hot chicks in their underwear, beer...

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fc4_1239165110

 

Been posted already in the General News section in better quality.

My apologies to Mr. Dangerous Incorporated, and to anyone else who has already seen this clip. It was recommended to me yesterday by a certain 'Captain Tightpants' you all may know (not that I'm boasting)... I only frequent this thread and don't look at any of the others, so thanks for pointing that out.

Saying that, I hope I'm hot enough to hold a lightsaber?

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How about instead adding a snow speeder cycling around ,with a towcable, of the fallen At-At having one speeder smashed on the windshield and then the Walker falling down with some smoke and fire from its head?( im talking for the newer,ady's, additional At At not the original solo ;) )

 

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fantastic stuff Adywan really looking forward to this next chapter in your magnum opus. amazing work!

Ok this may have already been brought up if so apologies. anyway, around 4secs in to the AT AT clip Luke is running towards what appears to me to be the right rear leg of the walker. If this is correct, that leg has a central stability strut running up it that disappears on the next close up of the leg at around 8secs.

Ps Adywan what are you doing regarding what kills/brings down the distant walker? will you also be adding blast damage/scarring FX to the walkers from the blaster shots?

 

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ladyferry said:
Dangerous Incorporated said:
ladyferry said:

Not on topic, I found something:

Lightsabers, hot chicks in their underwear, beer...

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fc4_1239165110

 

Been posted already in the General News section in better quality.

My apologies to Mr. Dangerous Incorporated, and to anyone else who has already seen this clip. It was recommended to me yesterday by a certain 'Captain Tightpants' you all may know (not that I'm boasting)... I only frequent this thread and don't look at any of the others, so thanks for pointing that out.

Saying that, I hope I'm hot enough to hold a lightsaber?

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=155200923&albumID=188962&imageID=605941

 

 

 

 

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vaderios said:

How about instead adding a snow speeder cycling around ,with a towcable, of the fallen At-At having one speeder smashed on the windshield and then the Walker falling down with some smoke and fire from its head?( im talking for the newer,ady's, additional At At not the original solo ;) )

 

-Angel

 

Not sure if a 'suicide' snowspeeder is the way to go there vaderios....  or if that would topple it that way.

 

StormTrooper -  Adywan recently confirmed that he intends to have a snowspeeder being seen to be 'tangling- up' the 'falling' AT-AT, before it falls, in the previous shot (before Luke runs towards the underneath of the LEFT one) where we see the 3 AT-ATs firing at the retreating Rebel troops.

 

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ImperialFighter said:
vaderios said:

How about instead adding a snow speeder cycling around ,with a towcable, of the fallen At-At having one speeder smashed on the windshield and then the Walker falling down with some smoke and fire from its head?( im talking for the newer,ady's, additional At At not the original solo ;) )

 

-Angel

 

Not sure if a 'suicide' snowspeeder is the way to go there vaderios....  or if that would topple it that way.

 

StormTrooper -  Adywan recently confirmed that he intends to have a snowspeeder being seen to be 'tangling- up' the 'falling' AT-AT, before it falls, in the previous shot where we see the 3 AT-ATs chasing the retreating Rebel troops..

 

Snowspeeder sounds good. What do you think about my probable continuity error with the legs?

 

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It was on script i think a snowspeeder smashed at ones AT-AT head and kill it.

 

-Angel

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StormTrooper said:!

Ok this may have already been brought up if so apologies. anyway, around 4secs in to the AT AT clip Luke is running towards what appears to me to be the right rear leg of the walker. If this is correct, that leg has a central stability strut running up it that disappears on the next close up of the leg at around 8secs.

 

Seeing as you asked, I've had a good look at this, freeze-framing it etc., and while Luke definately seems to be running towards the AT-AT's right-rear foot initially, after another 'close-up' shot of him running a little more, it seems that the next 'close-up' of a foot is one on it's LEFT side, as Luke is behind it.  It's hard to tell if it's the front or rear left foot, but the 'strut' thing is okay either way.  The added background detail to these 'foot' close-ups are marvellous now though, and make a big improvement to the shots.

 

vaderios -  although that script idea was decided against in the end, I'd certainly like to see a couple of your excellent mock-ups to show how you'd portray it using Adywan's clip.

 

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cheers for that guys..im not an expert, it just looked slightly odd that the strut is there then gone if you know what i mean

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Dangerous Incorporated said:

The camera shake was a PT thing and was never used in the OT. And being this was the only camera shake in the entire OT would be out of place no? A continuity error if you will.

 

 There was also a camera shake in ANH:R when the Rebel ship is hit at the beginning, right before the cut to 3PO and R2

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Husker said:

I think I've found something (for once):

Roughly at the 1 second mark of the latest video, that dude inside the circle turns around, makes a "firing his weapon" motion but no actual laser bolts come out of it, so it'd be great if you could add a couple there, Ady.

How 'bout that?

 

Great vid btw, dunno what all the nitpicking is coming from, but I loved it!

 

If you look carefully at the dude or "spot" to the left of the red circle ( just to the right of the closests rebels backpack antennae on this picture ) you can notice he does exatly the same as the red circle trooper :p

The same happens the the rebel running in front of the right ( from the AT-AT view ) foot of the middle AT-AT, or left foot from our view.

 

1st the AT-At foot trooper turns

2nd the red circle trooper 

3rd the spot trooper turns, in some strange AT -AT "look and shoot dance"

 

Just to knitpick some more :p

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Its funny but if you notice the left at-at at the beggining of the clip at the first frames its moving from its own out of balance.

No legs are moving. Maybe to stabilize it too look less remote controlled.

 

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vaderios said:

It was on script i think a snowspeeder smashed at ones AT-AT head and kill it.

 

-Angel

About this scene:

During the Battle of Hoth, General Veers is just about to target the rebel power generators when he is suddenly faced with a kamikaze pilot (Hobbie, Rogue Four) crashing through the front window of the cockpit. Veers is presumably killed in this scene.

Everything up to the snowspeeder crash is still in the film, leaving the question of whether Veers is meant to be alive or dead still a mystery. At least one early version of a Return Of The Jedi script has Veers appearing again, but this was later left out. Also interesting to note is that a very similar scene did end up happening later in Return Of The Jedi, when a damaged rebel craft flies through the front viewscreen of the Super Star Destroyer's bridge after the shields are disabled, causing the entire massive bulk of the ship to plunge into the Death Star's surface.

The only known evidence left of Veers' death scene are the storyboards and descriptions in earlier versions of the script.

 

 

INT WALKER NO. 1 - COCKPIT

CLOSE-UP VEERS inside Walker No. 1 cockpit. He speaks over the com-link as he studies various readouts.

VEERS
... yes, Lord Vader. I've reached the main power generators and I'm destroying them now. The shield will be down in moments. You may start your landing...

PILOT
Look out!

Veers looks out the cockpit window.


EXT BATTLEFIELD - HOTH

FULL SHOT of Hobbie's speeder, Rogue Four, as it races over camera right at the head of the oncoming walker.


INT WALKER NO. 1 - COCKPIT

death of veers

 

OVER THE SHOULDER of Veers and his pilots as the speeder crashes into the front window.

PILOT
He's going to...

Impact, huge explosion.


EXT BATTLEFIELD - HOTH

FULL SHOT of Walker No. 1 with head exploding and frying into a million pieces.



EXT BATTLEFIELD - HOTH

FULL SHOT Walker No. 1. After a few moments the headless walker topples over on its side in a cloud of snow.

 

 

 

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vaderios said:

How about instead adding a snow speeder cycling around ,with a towcable, of the fallen At-At having one speeder smashed on the windshield and then the Walker falling down with some smoke and fire from its head?( im talking for the newer,ady's, additional At At not the original solo ;) )

 

-Angel

the main problem with this is that having a speeder crash into a AT-AT head and blowing it up would be an almost repeat of what happens to the main AT-AT in this sequence when luke blows it up.

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Dangerous Incorporated said:

The camera shake was a PT thing and was never used in the OT. And being this was the only camera shake in the entire OT would be out of place no? A continuity error if you will.

 

 There was also a camera shake in ANH:R when the Rebel ship is hit at the beginning, right before the cut to 3PO and R2

i only added a small camera shake to the opening when the Tantive IV got hit and i added camera movement only to a few frames when the Falcon was caught in the tractor beam to fix a continuity problem where the falcon cockpit was rocking one minute and the next shot it has stopped for a few frames and started again. That is the only camera shake i added to ANH:R I'm not a great lover of all this camera shake business. the PT and many films today overuse it. It seems camera shake is added to almost everything even when a ship flies over head. It just annoys me when its used like this. Camera shake should only be used to imply a heavy impact like when Lukes speeder slams into the snow from the cockpit pint of view, when his x-wing crashes into the swamp on dagobah ( again a cockpit point of view) and when the stardestroyers collide because they all crash to the ground for no apparent reason. i don't like camera shake added for an explosion or when something far away hits the ground.

 

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Veers was to play a major role in ROTJ so I think George and the gang might have had a rethink when they were brainstorming for ideas for the next film.

Veers was to be ordered to deliver Luke to Vader but Jejerrod (a Grand Moff and rival to Vader, a role that would become the inspiration for Xizor in Shadows Of The Empire) countermands the order and sends him to the Emperor instead. Vader chokes Jejerrod to death in response.

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vaderios said:

It was on script i think a snowspeeder smashed at ones AT-AT head and kill it.

 

-Angel

About this scene:

During the Battle of Hoth, General Veers is just about to target the rebel power generators when he is suddenly faced with a kamikaze pilot (Hobbie, Rogue Four) crashing through the front window of the cockpit. Veers is presumably killed in this scene.

Everything up to the snowspeeder crash is still in the film, leaving the question of whether Veers is meant to be alive or dead still a mystery. At least one early version of a Return Of The Jedi script has Veers appearing again, but this was later left out. Also interesting to note is that a very similar scene did end up happening later in Return Of The Jedi, when a damaged rebel craft flies through the front viewscreen of the Super Star Destroyer's bridge after the shields are disabled, causing the entire massive bulk of the ship to plunge into the Death Star's surface.

The only known evidence left of Veers' death scene are the storyboards and descriptions in earlier versions of the script.

Heres the storyboard:

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there is also some photographic evidence that sluggo posted a while ago  that it may have been filmed because there is an on set FX pic of an AT-AT with its head blown off which is different than the one that is in the movie so it could be Veers AT-AT

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corellian77 said:

ladyferry, I see by some of your pics that you're a Dune fan? (judging by your dog's name and your "blue in blue" eyes pic) :)

Yup! I am also a big Dune fan, have been since I was 12! I re-read all the novels religiously every year. My chihuahua is called Leto after Leto Atreides II - the God Emperor...

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While I love the Ady's new footage,  I'm not sure I like the idea of seeing more walkers get destroyed.  I know that the new stuff is added to account for continutiy issues of why we only see a few walkers later on, but I worry that seeing the rebels take out more AT-ATs will make the battle seem more evenly matched.  The battle is supposed to be really lopped sided.  the rebels in the trenches are sacrificing themselves to buy time for others to escape.  This is really the only time we see the Empire's truly superior forces.  The audience is supposed to feel that the rebels will not be able to make it out.

 

Perhaps a solution is to have more AT-AT's in the background so you know wellthat there are a lot more AT-AT  waves coming and there is no way the rebels can defeat ALL of them.