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Docta Nick said:

My idea on the galaxy thing, change it to a star, and maybe add some planets in the distance or something.

 

Nah! It will loose the money shot!

Or maybe an impressive scene of planets some of them destroyed in a nabula dust... oh no the PT sydrom hits again


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vaderios said:
Docta Nick said:

My idea on the galaxy thing, change it to a star, and maybe add some planets in the distance or something.

 

Nah! It will loose the money shot!

Or maybe an impressive scene of planets some of them destroyed in a nabula dust... oh no the PT sydrom hits again


-Angel

 

It's my fault.  I'm the idiot that brought up the PT is this forum weeks back.

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Tobar said:

It's the Rishi Maze.

 

 Works. case closed.

 

*coff* star *coff*

 

nah but really thats cool

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Monroville said:
vaderios said:

 

Speaking of the END of EMPIRE, this shot always bugged me.  The Falcon leaves and zips off... to where again?  The galaxy is THAT way (pointing down, as they fly upwards). 

Is there any way Ady could ... show the Falcon heading TOWARDS the galaxy and not into random space?


 

Astronomically speaking, what you're seeing in these shots is ANOTHER galaxy beyond the edge of the galaxy in which Luke and company are situated.  It's like looking up and seeing the Andromeda galaxy in our own night sky -- it's not WITHIN our own Milky Way galaxy, we can just see it beyond our own cluster of stars.  As such, the Falcon is not heading into nothingness; the other galaxy is not their destination. 

Now, whether or not such a galaxy would look that close is another matter (something that your mockups exaggerate Vaderios).  I guess considering people can hop around all over the galaxy in the Star Wars universe, it's possible that wherever the Rebel fleet is at the end of ESB just happens to be very close to said galaxy.

BTW, I personally like the idea that it could be the Rishi Maze mentioned in AOTC.

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The problem is that to see it that big they would have to be between galaxies or the other galaxy would have to be colliding with theirs (which would make it visable in almost every shot in the saga) or very, very big (which would have the same effect).

We can only see Andromeda in detail in those nice photographs through looking through a very powerful telescope.

Everywhere in our galaxy the view would be pretty much the same (though both our galaxy and it are moving together very quickly).

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Monroville said:

And at 7:55, maybe the medical droid in the background could move a little bit?

 

 Yes please! I never liked that the droid just randomly shuts itself off.

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The Golden Idol said:
Monroville said:

And at 7:55, maybe the medical droid in the background could move a little bit?

 

 Yes please! I never liked that the droid just randomly shuts itself off.

"Well if droids could think, there'd be none of us here, would there?"

Its just a droid what else can do?


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vaderios said:
The Golden Idol said:
Monroville said:

And at 7:55, maybe the medical droid in the background could move a little bit?

 

 Yes please! I never liked that the droid just randomly shuts itself off.

"Well if droids could think, there'd be none of us here, would there?"

Its just a droid what else can do?


-Angel

 

 

 It's not that I don't like that it turns itself off, per se, I mean that it shuts off between shots, so right after Luke got his new hand, the medical droid is already off. I'd at least like to see the eyes shutting off, or something, instead of it being suddenly off.

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what if enstead of the galaxy it is like a huge rebel meeting point, so maybe mal calamari ship yards, like the asteroid field in ROTS?

 

(i know ady has already said he doesnt intend to put mal calamari in, but this would be in a slightly different context.)

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Bingowings said:

Don't worry, once the new trailer comes out I'm sure there will a lot to talk about.

As for the data screen on the Falcon (though I don't think it's actually necessary) it could be a nice project which might be useful more for ROTJ:R during the Endor Battle but might work here too.

Unless we are going to alter the glow from the screen it would have to be mostly blue.

Perhaps the Nav Computer from TPM would be a better guide as it's onscreen longer and the two ships are closer to each other in size.

I'm stuck because I can't find good shots of the screens but here's the best I could under the circumstances (I'm sure other people could do a lot better) :

Navicom

 

 Like Vaderios is so great at... :)

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vaderios said:

Oh!!!

Damn my english then!

I will fix it later.

Speak Galactic basic next time Guys! I dont know Rodian ;P

 

-Angel

 

 

 hahahaha There you go Vaderios....I like the matte as it is now, can't be used in the film due to the reasons so gently explained but the matte as just regular art rocks. Now if you nail it just right, like some other times, we may yet have a winner! hehehehe.

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corellian77 said:
Monroville said:
vaderios said:

 

Speaking of the END of EMPIRE, this shot always bugged me. The Falcon leaves and zips off... to where again? The galaxy is THAT way (pointing down, as they fly upwards).

Is there any way Ady could ... show the Falcon heading TOWARDS the galaxy and not into random space?


 

Astronomically speaking, what you're seeing in these shots is ANOTHER galaxy beyond the edge of the galaxy in which Luke and company are situated. It's like looking up and seeing the Andromeda galaxy in our own night sky -- it's not WITHIN our own Milky Way galaxy, we can just see it beyond our own cluster of stars. As such, the Falcon is not heading into nothingness; the other galaxy is not their destination.

Now, whether or not such a galaxy would look that close is another matter (something that your mockups exaggerate Vaderios). I guess considering people can hop around all over the galaxy in the Star Wars universe, it's possible that wherever the Rebel fleet is at the end of ESB just happens to be very close to said galaxy.

BTW, I personally like the idea that it could be the Rishi Maze mentioned in AOTC.

 

I hope Ady's looks like the right one, look at the better color on 3PO, and overall better color, but shoudn't R2 be a bit more blue on the appropriate parts?

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I was looking at the forums the other day and I noticed something that kinda made me laugh.

ANH:R has only 274 some odd pages and that project is completed.

However, ESB:R has 318 with another 6 months to a year more to go!

Matticon.

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^I've thought about that before, but never actually checked to see. I'm not really surprised. I think a lot of that has to do with Adywan's fame now that ANH:R has been out for a while, ESB is the most popular overall of the OT, far more people have joined since ANH:R was released, plus all the great mock-ups and such that people are making.  Really makes me look forward to seeing new posts in this thread, and I'm sure that goes for most of us. :)

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vaderios said:

Here take the pic and try it out :)


-Angel

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jjOvtOp_QI

Here is my 2nd attempt at it. This time I used the screen image from TPM, though I had to blow it up to work, so its pretty pixelated, but its still the type of image I would like to see on the screen, rather than the one in AOTC.

Thanks for the pic!

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The falcon makes that galaxy look no bigger than 3 football fields LOL. its almost like the galaxy is tiny.

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Bingowings said:

The problem is that to see it that big they would have to be between galaxies or the other galaxy would have to be colliding with theirs (which would make it visable in almost every shot in the saga) or very, very big (which would have the same effect).

We can only see Andromeda in detail in those nice photographs through looking through a very powerful telescope.

Everywhere in our galaxy the view would be pretty much the same (though both our galaxy and it are moving together very quickly).

I don't get it... supposedly our sun is located in one of the spiral arms of the Milky Way, right? Yet when we look around us (to the sky naturally) we do not see the arm we are in, or the rest of the galaxy... well, technically we do I suppose, but we don't SEE it, if you know what I mean.

So if we are not able to see the galaxy around us, how would it be at all possible to see ANOTHER galaxy? Telescopes see differently than the naked eye, right? Am I wrong about that? I don't know.

So... I'm just gonna go with the idea that the image shown in the background as the Falcon flies by is a forming star, nothing more. Though an updated version could be cool either way.

 

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I agree that galaxy shot looks ridiculous, and I think the popularity of these edits will only continue to grow....I think ROTJ will be even larger, because that is the worst movie of the OT, and needs the most "Revisited" revisitation from the Adman....

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Here is a non matte painting version of the shots vaderios was complaining about.

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oh_riginal said:
Bingowings said:

The problem is that to see it that big they would have to be between galaxies or the other galaxy would have to be colliding with theirs (which would make it visable in almost every shot in the saga) or very, very big (which would have the same effect).

We can only see Andromeda in detail in those nice photographs through looking through a very powerful telescope.

Everywhere in our galaxy the view would be pretty much the same (though both our galaxy and it are moving together very quickly).

I don't get it... supposedly our sun is located in one of the spiral arms of the Milky Way, right? Yet when we look around us (to the sky naturally) we do not see the arm we are in, or the rest of the galaxy... well, technically we do I suppose, but we don't SEE it, if you know what I mean.

So if we are not able to see the galaxy around us, how would it be at all possible to see ANOTHER galaxy? Telescopes see differently than the naked eye, right? Am I wrong about that? I don't know.

So... I'm just gonna go with the idea that the image shown in the background as the Falcon flies by is a forming star, nothing more. Though an updated version could be cool either way.

 

Andromeda is 2.5million light years away so it will look roughly like this:

Andromeda

wherever you are in our galaxy (unless you have a telescope). The reason why you might not see the galaxy we are in may be light polution, most humans through our history have been able to see it (it's why the galaxy we are in is called The Milky Way it looks like a splash of milk across the sky if the sky is dark enough) here it is from Death Valley:

Milky Way At Death Valley

Here are two mock ups I did in the ESB/ROTJ Wishlist thread showing an accretion disk instead (not up to vaderios' standards) :

Disk 2

Disk one

As for the object in ESB being the Rishi Maze it seems a bit odd to me that the Rebels, after suffering such a defeat, would hide in what must by then be one the most notoriously famous areas of space.

It's like a bunch of anti-American spies hanging out at Mount Rushmore, mmm...didn't Hitchcock do that one already ;-)

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Bingowings said:

As for the object in ESB being the Rishi Maze it seems a bit odd to me that the Rebels, after suffering such a defeat, would hide in what must by then be one the most notoriously famous areas of space.

 

 Good hiding places are good hidiing places. It took 5000 US soldiers ten years to find Geronimo in the mountains of the Southwest, and the US still hasn't found Bin Laden in the mountains.

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Bingowings said:

As for the object in ESB being the Rishi Maze it seems a bit odd to me that the Rebels, after suffering such a defeat, would hide in what must by then be one the most notoriously famous areas of space.

 

 Good hiding places are good hidiing places. It took 5000 US soldiers ten years to find Geronimo in the mountains of the Southwest, and the US still hasn't found Bin Laden in the mountains.

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oh_riginal said:

I don't get it... supposedly our sun is located in one of the spiral arms of the Milky Way, right? Yet when we look around us (to the sky naturally) we do not see the arm we are in, or the rest of the galaxy... well, technically we do I suppose, but we don't SEE it, if you know what I mean.

So if we are not able to see the galaxy around us, how would it be at all possible to see ANOTHER galaxy? Telescopes see differently than the naked eye, right? Am I wrong about that? I don't know.

So... I'm just gonna go with the idea that the image shown in the background as the Falcon flies by is a forming star, nothing more. Though an updated version could be cool either way.

You can see the galazy with bare eyes if you go somewhere where there is no light. I see the galaxy every summer when i go to my village which has minimal light polution at night. It look like dust among the stars.

Here is a non matte painting version of the shots vaderios was complaining about.

 

YES! now that solve all the problems! I will star ASAP.

 

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